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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:48:17 GMT -5
If I'm Fleck, I think I care more about potentially winning a title in college and trying for Paris in 2024. JWO isn't going anywhere anyway. Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. There will be competition for every position on the 2024 roster and the competition at libero will be tough.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:50:26 GMT -5
Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. There will be competition for every position on the 2024 roster and the competition at libero will be tough. I’m not sure he was saying it was a fluke more just like she hasn’t consistently performed at that level yet. I think she’s incredibly technically sound though so that bodes well for her going forward imo. I think Fleck has some advantages though. She’s just an incredible all around athlete and I think she’s faster.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 17:51:46 GMT -5
Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. There will be competition for every position on the 2024 roster and the competition at libero will be tough. I’m not sure he was saying it was a fluke more just like she hasn’t consistently performed at that level yet. I think she’s incredibly technically sound though so that bodes well for her going forward imo. I think Fleck has some advantages though. She’s just an incredible all around athlete and I think she’s faster. She's been the best libero in germany for two years now and was the best libero during the major tournaments in that time what more do you want lol
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 2, 2022 17:52:15 GMT -5
If I'm Fleck, I think I care more about potentially winning a title in college and trying for Paris in 2024. JWO isn't going anywhere anyway. Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. I didn't mean that JWO is guaranteed to be the starter in 2024. Obviously, injuries or decline can happen. But I think she has to be the favorite as of now (if the competition is close, I would take the player who was the best libero in the tournament in the previous Olympics). And Fleck won't be guaranteed to get the job by any means, so I think she's making the right decision. It's not like she's a star football or basketball player that could potentially be putting millions or even tens of millions at risk by staying in college. There isn't that kind of money available for volleyball players, much less liberos.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:55:04 GMT -5
I’m not sure he was saying it was a fluke more just like she hasn’t consistently performed at that level yet. I think she’s incredibly technically sound though so that bodes well for her going forward imo. I think Fleck has some advantages though. She’s just an incredible all around athlete and I think she’s faster. She's been the best libero in germany for two years now and was the best libero during the major tournaments in that time what more do you want lol well personally I wish she wasn’t so good so Serbia could beat them lmaoooo. I think she’s been very good but her olympic performance was special. I think her floor is quite high rn I’m just saying I’m not sure she could play at THAT ridiculous of a level again. I also just think fleck is ridiculous and could challenge her eventually
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 2, 2022 17:59:29 GMT -5
Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. Exactly, which is why I specifically stated that i didn’t think it was a fluke. I was just pointing out that while she was outstanding this past summer, I want to see her maintain that level before people count out other options. I believe that she will be able to maintain that level but we’ve seen some players play amazing in the huge moments and have this stellar breakout performance and then slowly come off of that level. Obviously I want the US to win so I hope she continues to play like that, I was mostly responding to someone alluding to fleck not having a shot bc of jwo when we only saw jwo play like that for two months
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 2, 2022 18:00:12 GMT -5
She's been the best libero in germany for two years now and was the best libero during the major tournaments in that time what more do you want lol well personally I wish she wasn’t so good so Serbia could beat them lmaoooo. I think she’s been very good but her olympic performance was special. I think her floor is quite high rn I’m just saying I’m not sure she could play at THAT ridiculous of a level again. I also just think fleck is ridiculous and could challenge her eventually Fleck is great, but she also hasn't played at the international level yet. JWO is much more of a known quantity.
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 2, 2022 18:09:09 GMT -5
Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. Exactly, which is why I specifically stated that i didn’t think it was a fluke. I was just pointing out that while she was outstanding this past summer, I want to see her maintain that level before people count out other options. I believe that she will be able to maintain that level but we’ve seen some players play amazing in the huge moments and have this stellar breakout performance and then slowly come off of that level. Obviously I want the US to win so I hope she continues to play like that, I was mostly responding to someone alluding to fleck not having a shot bc of jwo when we only saw jwo play like that for two months I never said Fleck "didn't have a shot." I do think she's unlikely to supplant JWO. We'll see, but JWO is far, far more proven at this point.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 18:09:28 GMT -5
is it vnl szn yet
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Post by Draco_MN on Jan 2, 2022 18:22:33 GMT -5
How come Destinee Hooker isn’t listed in the OP? Is she done with the NT?
Jk sry I’m just bored
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 18:25:02 GMT -5
How come Destinee Hooker isn’t listed in the OP? Is she done with the NT? Jk sry I’m just bored you can go dig up all of the dirt with her puerto rico fiasco
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 19:16:35 GMT -5
How come Destinee Hooker isn’t listed in the OP? Is she done with the NT? Jk sry I’m just bored you can go dig up all of the dirt with her puerto rico fiasco 👀 Now you have to spill the tea.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 19:20:32 GMT -5
well personally I wish she wasn’t so good so Serbia could beat them lmaoooo. I think she’s been very good but her olympic performance was special. I think her floor is quite high rn I’m just saying I’m not sure she could play at THAT ridiculous of a level again. I also just think fleck is ridiculous and could challenge her eventually Fleck is great, but she also hasn't played at the international level yet. JWO is much more of a known quantity. JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her.
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 2, 2022 19:38:09 GMT -5
Fleck is great, but she also hasn't played at the international level yet. JWO is much more of a known quantity. JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. Pretty much every libero on a top international team is extremely good out of system setting. You can only be so good at it ya know? At that level they are all very good at putting up more than hittable balls to the pins. While jwo is very good at out of system setting, it’s hard to not be really good at that when ur at that level bc it’s really not a very difficult skill
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Post by jwvolley on Jan 2, 2022 19:42:46 GMT -5
JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. Pretty much every libero on a top international team is extremely good out of system setting. You can only be so good at it ya know? At that level they are all very good at putting up more than hittable balls to the pins. While jwo is very good at out of system setting, it’s hard to not be really good at that when ur at that level bc it’s really not a very difficult skill lol you've called both passing and setting easy skills now in the past few days. Volleyball must come naturally to you xD
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