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Post by bbg95 on Jan 2, 2022 18:00:12 GMT -5
She's been the best libero in germany for two years now and was the best libero during the major tournaments in that time what more do you want lol well personally I wish she wasn’t so good so Serbia could beat them lmaoooo. I think she’s been very good but her olympic performance was special. I think her floor is quite high rn I’m just saying I’m not sure she could play at THAT ridiculous of a level again. I also just think fleck is ridiculous and could challenge her eventually Fleck is great, but she also hasn't played at the international level yet. JWO is much more of a known quantity. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 2, 2022 18:09:09 GMT -5
Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. Exactly, which is why I specifically stated that i didn’t think it was a fluke. I was just pointing out that while she was outstanding this past summer, I want to see her maintain that level before people count out other options. I believe that she will be able to maintain that level but we’ve seen some players play amazing in the huge moments and have this stellar breakout performance and then slowly come off of that level. Obviously I want the US to win so I hope she continues to play like that, I was mostly responding to someone alluding to fleck not having a shot bc of jwo when we only saw jwo play like that for two months I never said Fleck "didn't have a shot." I do think she's unlikely to supplant JWO. We'll see, but JWO is far, far more proven at this point. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 18:09:28 GMT -5
is it vnl szn yet
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Post by Draco_MN on Jan 2, 2022 18:22:33 GMT -5
How come Destinee Hooker isn’t listed in the OP? Is she done with the NT?
Jk sry I’m just bored
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 18:25:02 GMT -5
How come Destinee Hooker isn’t listed in the OP? Is she done with the NT? Jk sry I’m just bored you can go dig up all of the dirt with her puerto rico fiasco |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 19:16:35 GMT -5
How come Destinee Hooker isn’t listed in the OP? Is she done with the NT? Jk sry I’m just bored you can go dig up all of the dirt with her puerto rico fiasco 👀 Now you have to spill the tea. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 19:20:32 GMT -5
well personally I wish she wasn’t so good so Serbia could beat them lmaoooo. I think she’s been very good but her olympic performance was special. I think her floor is quite high rn I’m just saying I’m not sure she could play at THAT ridiculous of a level again. I also just think fleck is ridiculous and could challenge her eventually Fleck is great, but she also hasn't played at the international level yet. JWO is much more of a known quantity. JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. |
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 2, 2022 19:38:09 GMT -5
Fleck is great, but she also hasn't played at the international level yet. JWO is much more of a known quantity. JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. Pretty much every libero on a top international team is extremely good out of system setting. You can only be so good at it ya know? At that level they are all very good at putting up more than hittable balls to the pins. While jwo is very good at out of system setting, it’s hard to not be really good at that when ur at that level bc it’s really not a very difficult skill |
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Post by jwvolley on Jan 2, 2022 19:42:46 GMT -5
JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. Pretty much every libero on a top international team is extremely good out of system setting. You can only be so good at it ya know? At that level they are all very good at putting up more than hittable balls to the pins. While jwo is very good at out of system setting, it’s hard to not be really good at that when ur at that level bc it’s really not a very difficult skill lol you've called both passing and setting easy skills now in the past few days. Volleyball must come naturally to you xD |
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Post by basil on Jan 2, 2022 19:45:40 GMT -5
JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. Pretty much every libero on a top international team is extremely good out of system setting. You can only be so good at it ya know? At that level they are all very good at putting up more than hittable balls to the pins. While jwo is very good at out of system setting, it’s hard to not be really good at that when ur at that level bc it’s really not a very difficult skill you'd be surprised LOL I've seen some nasty stuff I don't think JWO is as flashy/as good at setting OOS tempo like De Gennaro or Castillo, but she is very solid at getting her hitters swings in tough positions. There's lots of liberos that can't say that. |
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Post by SportyBucky on Jan 2, 2022 19:53:12 GMT -5
How quickly we forget Dana played nearly the whole 2019 VNL with the “A” team and played the Olympic qualifier that year as well. She should have been in the Olympic training camp if the Spring season didn’t overlap the 2020VNL…. And she's still not ready for the elite intl game. Staying at Wisconsin for another year hurt that. She belonged. She hot for a high percentage and blocking was not top but close. I don't care to pull stats but have before and she more than held her own. |
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Post by Draco_MN on Jan 2, 2022 19:57:04 GMT -5
JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. Pretty much every libero on a top international team is extremely good out of system setting. You can only be so good at it ya know? At that level they are all very good at putting up more than hittable balls to the pins. While jwo is very good at out of system setting, it’s hard to not be really good at that when ur at that level bc it’s really not a very difficult skill ? ? ? ? ? this is so illogical that I don’t even know how to properly word my disagreement |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 19:59:24 GMT -5
you can go dig up all of the dirt with her puerto rico fiasco 👀 Now you have to spill the tea. there's no tea lol its all out there she went to PR pregnant, didn't tell anyone... pulled out of the league during the playoffs when she was too far along to play... and caused her team to forfeit because they weren't allowed to sign a replacement. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 20:00:36 GMT -5
And she's still not ready for the elite intl game. Staying at Wisconsin for another year hurt that. She belonged. She hot for a high percentage and blocking was not top but close. I don't care to pull stats but have before and she more than held her own. that's all fun and games in the NCAA. She can hit over Madi Kubik all she wants... but that doesn't fly in Europe. that's my point. Her serve hasn't improved at all... it goes under the net just as much as it goes over. She's not faster to the pins... she's defended NCAA speed instead of elite speed. anyways... this is derailing lol |
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Post by basil on Jan 2, 2022 20:02:20 GMT -5
Fleck is great, but she also hasn't played at the international level yet. JWO is much more of a known quantity. JWO was also exception setting OOS. Is Fleck as talented in this department? I haven't watched enough of her. from what I've seen Fleck is a very good setter with both hands and platform. dont wanna compare her directly to Justine though because they're playing at different levels. she dedicates like 2 minutes to setting in this highlight reel |
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