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Post by Disc808 on Jan 2, 2022 17:13:09 GMT -5
Enough talk about Rettke, I really want Butler to work out for Team USA...
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 17:13:49 GMT -5
Enough talk about Rettke, I really want Butler to work out for Team USA... i just want to know where she's playing lol |
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 2, 2022 17:20:28 GMT -5
The extra (5th) year of eligibility doesn't help any college athlete's case for making the 2024 roster. I thought it was a bad idea for both Yossi and for Dana. You're just losing a year of development playing against pro-level competition to stay in your comfort zone (okay, maybe also finishing your masters degree) while not developing as quickly by playing the vast majority of your repetitions against/with inferior players. And/or just getting subbed out in the back row. You could say the same for liberos, because playing against elite velocity and angles that you'd find at the pro-levels is different than playing against most college attackers. But it's just so hard for American liberos to get worthwhile jobs overseas. Rettke won a title in her fifth year. I'm guessing she's fine with her decision. |
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Post by northwoods on Jan 2, 2022 17:26:21 GMT -5
Enough talk about Rettke, I really want Butler to work out for Team USA... i just want to know where she's playing lol She is absolutely making the right decision to get out of Texas before her last year of eligibility! Needs a coach to break her of the habit of throwing the ball & get a more fluid slide attack. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 17:29:04 GMT -5
i just want to know where she's playing lol She is absolutely making the right decision to get out of Texas before her last year of eligibility! Needs a coach to break her of the habit of throwing the ball & get a more fluid slide attack. slides are overrated. the habit will die if its called intl (which are hit and miss) |
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 2, 2022 17:30:21 GMT -5
In college, Hentz was definitely greater than Clark but I have no idea what Morgan's training is like since she isn't playing professionally. Idk what her aspirations are. Clark is training and developing in Germany, who knows where she'll be when she comes back. But honestly it's mostly just who's going to be the B team libero/backup to Justine. Leah needs to go pro lol but I'm not sure if she wants to. Simone is doing decently in Germany I think? Maybe she'll get another chance. Pretty much... it should be Fleck..... but.... well... she's throwing that shot. I saw Leah post her shoulder is 100% now... so maybe she'll try overseas. If I'm Fleck, I think I care more about potentially winning a title in college and trying for Paris in 2024. JWO isn't going anywhere anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:33:49 GMT -5
"janky"... aka two international level events... (which doesnt even count training in the USA gym for the whole summer) did staying at Wisconsin help her serve? no did her speed to the pins improve? no that could be the difference between being on the WCH roster.... and being at home Sorry, but there was no “summer of training” in the USA gym last year….(other than the couple weeks of CNT training she was there for) And both those Pan Am events were WEAK…. Which is why zero top NCAA players left school to launch their pro careers. I mean it was darn near unanimous among top seniors to stay in the NCAA and improve their games (you would have a point for OH or OPP’s not progressing) With Covid restrictions, reduced budgets and lots of players looking for a limited number of jobs, last year was a bad time for NCAA players to launch their pro careers. |
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 2, 2022 17:39:59 GMT -5
Pretty much... it should be Fleck..... but.... well... she's throwing that shot. I saw Leah post her shoulder is 100% now... so maybe she'll try overseas. If I'm Fleck, I think I care more about potentially winning a title in college and trying for Paris in 2024. JWO isn't going anywhere anyway. Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:41:41 GMT -5
If I'm Fleck, I think I care more about potentially winning a title in college and trying for Paris in 2024. JWO isn't going anywhere anyway. Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. this is a fair point |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:48:17 GMT -5
If I'm Fleck, I think I care more about potentially winning a title in college and trying for Paris in 2024. JWO isn't going anywhere anyway. Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. There will be competition for every position on the 2024 roster and the competition at libero will be tough. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:50:26 GMT -5
Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. There will be competition for every position on the 2024 roster and the competition at libero will be tough. I’m not sure he was saying it was a fluke more just like she hasn’t consistently performed at that level yet. I think she’s incredibly technically sound though so that bodes well for her going forward imo. I think Fleck has some advantages though. She’s just an incredible all around athlete and I think she’s faster. |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jan 2, 2022 17:51:46 GMT -5
Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. There will be competition for every position on the 2024 roster and the competition at libero will be tough. I’m not sure he was saying it was a fluke more just like she hasn’t consistently performed at that level yet. I think she’s incredibly technically sound though so that bodes well for her going forward imo. I think Fleck has some advantages though. She’s just an incredible all around athlete and I think she’s faster. She's been the best libero in germany for two years now and was the best libero during the major tournaments in that time what more do you want lol |
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 2, 2022 17:52:15 GMT -5
If I'm Fleck, I think I care more about potentially winning a title in college and trying for Paris in 2024. JWO isn't going anywhere anyway. Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. I didn't mean that JWO is guaranteed to be the starter in 2024. Obviously, injuries or decline can happen. But I think she has to be the favorite as of now (if the competition is close, I would take the player who was the best libero in the tournament in the previous Olympics). And Fleck won't be guaranteed to get the job by any means, so I think she's making the right decision. It's not like she's a star football or basketball player that could potentially be putting millions or even tens of millions at risk by staying in college. There isn't that kind of money available for volleyball players, much less liberos. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2022 17:55:04 GMT -5
I’m not sure he was saying it was a fluke more just like she hasn’t consistently performed at that level yet. I think she’s incredibly technically sound though so that bodes well for her going forward imo. I think Fleck has some advantages though. She’s just an incredible all around athlete and I think she’s faster. She's been the best libero in germany for two years now and was the best libero during the major tournaments in that time what more do you want lol well personally I wish she wasn’t so good so Serbia could beat them lmaoooo. I think she’s been very good but her olympic performance was special. I think her floor is quite high rn I’m just saying I’m not sure she could play at THAT ridiculous of a level again. I also just think fleck is ridiculous and could challenge her eventually |
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Post by stanfordvb on Jan 2, 2022 17:59:29 GMT -5
Do we know that for sure tho? I’m not the most informed about the nt but I do pay attention to a decent amount… didn’t jwo technically only have two good tourneys with USA? I’m not saying it was a fluke but as of right now, correct if I’m wrong, jwo played really well for two months but how do we know we’ll see that from her again ? Remember Kim hill in 2014…. Nothing about Justine's performance was a fluke. Exactly, which is why I specifically stated that i didn’t think it was a fluke. I was just pointing out that while she was outstanding this past summer, I want to see her maintain that level before people count out other options. I believe that she will be able to maintain that level but we’ve seen some players play amazing in the huge moments and have this stellar breakout performance and then slowly come off of that level. Obviously I want the US to win so I hope she continues to play like that, I was mostly responding to someone alluding to fleck not having a shot bc of jwo when we only saw jwo play like that for two months |
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