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Post by BuckysHeat on Jan 13, 2022 9:26:53 GMT -5
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 13, 2022 10:16:56 GMT -5
Something to keep in mind is that most people are vicariously comparing resumes. Ths thing to remember that most of the norms established by those resumes are thrown out the door because of:
COVID and all of is implications and the transient nature of the day to day operations.
NIL
Transfer portal.
Any kind of record for coaches established before 2019 really can not be considered a predictor, indeed if thay can be considered predictors at all, for what we are experiencing now.
There is and will be a lot of making sh_t up as we go along.
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Post by moderndaycoach on Jan 13, 2022 10:20:46 GMT -5
Something to kee in mind is that most people are vicariously comparing resumes. Ths thing ri remember that most of the norms established by those resumes are thrown out the door because of: COVID and all of is implications and the transient nature of the day to day operations. NIL Transfer portal. Any kind of record for coaches established before 2019 really can not be considered a predictor, indeed if thay can be considered predictors at all, for what we are experiencing now. There is and will be a lot of making sh_t as we go along. I think the coaches that figure out how to use the transfer portal the best could completely change their programs and the success they find within a season. NIL will be nice but that will be more of a thing a volleyball kid establishes once they arrive and make their name known on campus rather than prior to them arriving. Unless you are hyped to the likes of a Sun, Plummer, Haggarty, Bricio, etc. before coming. The portal is the main thing here, you could see some middle teams in powerful conferences figure out how to use it and wind up competing for conference or making a deep tourney run. |
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 13, 2022 15:26:12 GMT -5
Something to kee in mind is that most people are vicariously comparing resumes. Ths thing ri remember that most of the norms established by those resumes are thrown out the door because of: COVID and all of is implications and the transient nature of the day to day operations. NIL Transfer portal. Any kind of record for coaches established before 2019 really can not be considered a predictor, indeed if thay can be considered predictors at all, for what we are experiencing now. There is and will be a lot of making sh_t as we go along. I think the coaches that figure out how to use the transfer portal the best could completely change their programs and the success they find within a season. NIL will be nice but that will be more of a thing a volleyball kid establishes once they arrive and make their name known on campus rather than prior to them arriving. Unless you are hyped to the likes of a Sun, Plummer, Haggarty, Bricio, etc. before coming. The portal is the main thing here, you could see some middle teams in powerful conferences figure out how to use it and wind up competing for conference or making a deep tourney run. I am not sure about the effect on volleyball athletes, but I know that it is a factor in the decision making process of freshman players. Nebraska has been very successful in marketing their players so they could point at their success in NIL as an incentive for them to come to Nebraska. It might be just another factor in enticing players in the transfer portal. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 13, 2022 15:46:37 GMT -5
I think the coaches that figure out how to use the transfer portal the best could completely change their programs and the success they find within a season. NIL will be nice but that will be more of a thing a volleyball kid establishes once they arrive and make their name known on campus rather than prior to them arriving. Unless you are hyped to the likes of a Sun, Plummer, Haggarty, Bricio, etc. before coming. The portal is the main thing here, you could see some middle teams in powerful conferences figure out how to use it and wind up competing for conference or making a deep tourney run. There are two sides to the transfer portal. Yes, finding and attracting players in the portal will be important, but even more important may be figuring out how to keep your own players out of the portal. It seems like some coaches don't want to have to do that, and if they don't they will deservedly bleed players to the portal. |
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Post by bkedane on Jan 13, 2022 15:50:59 GMT -5
Something to keep in mind is that most people are vicariously comparing resumes. Ths thing to remember that most of the norms established by those resumes are thrown out the door because of: COVID and all of is implications and the transient nature of the day to day operations. NIL Transfer portal. Any kind of record for coaches established before 2019 really can not be considered a predictor, indeed if thay can be considered predictors at all, for what we are experiencing now. There is and will be a lot of making sh_t up as we go along. Do you really not think that coaching records and accomplishments before 2019 are *at all* predictors of future performance? I'd believe that additional factors such as those you mention weaken the predictive power of past records and accomplishments. But not "at all" predictive? |
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 13, 2022 15:56:00 GMT -5
Something to keep in mind is that most people are vicariously comparing resumes. Ths thing to remember that most of the norms established by those resumes are thrown out the door because of: COVID and all of is implications and the transient nature of the day to day operations. NIL Transfer portal. Any kind of record for coaches established before 2019 really can not be considered a predictor, indeed if thay can be considered predictors at all, for what we are experiencing now. There is and will be a lot of making sh_t up as we go along. Do you really not think that coaching records and accomplishments before 2019 are *at all* predictors of future performance? I'd believe that additional factors such as those you mention weaken the predictive power of past records and accomplishments. But not "at all" predictive? How predictive were they before all the other factors complicated the equations? I don't think there were all that predictive. |
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 13, 2022 15:56:45 GMT -5
Something to keep in mind is that most people are vicariously comparing resumes. Ths thing to remember that most of the norms established by those resumes are thrown out the door because of: COVID and all of is implications and the transient nature of the day to day operations. NIL Transfer portal. Any kind of record for coaches established before 2019 really can not be considered a predictor, indeed if thay can be considered predictors at all, for what we are experiencing now. There is and will be a lot of making sh_t up as we go along. Do you really not think that coaching records and accomplishments before 2019 are *at all* predictors of future performance? I'd believe that additional factors such as those you mention weaken the predictive power of past records and accomplishments. But not "at all" predictive? Right. I remember when one-and-done players started to dominate college basketball after the NBA instituted an age limit. Coach K still did well. |
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Post by eazy on Jan 13, 2022 16:34:26 GMT -5
I think the coaches that figure out how to use the transfer portal the best could completely change their programs and the success they find within a season. NIL will be nice but that will be more of a thing a volleyball kid establishes once they arrive and make their name known on campus rather than prior to them arriving. Unless you are hyped to the likes of a Sun, Plummer, Haggarty, Bricio, etc. before coming. The portal is the main thing here, you could see some middle teams in powerful conferences figure out how to use it and wind up competing for conference or making a deep tourney run. There are two sides to the transfer portal. Yes, finding and attracting players in the portal will be important, but even more important may be figuring out how to keep your own players out of the portal. It seems like some coaches don't want to have to do that, and if they don't they will deservedly bleed players to the portal. There is an unfortunate third side.. Some coaches have already shown a willingness to utilize the portal to free up scholarships by force (essentially). |
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Post by oldnewbie on Jan 13, 2022 16:37:46 GMT -5
There are two sides to the transfer portal. Yes, finding and attracting players in the portal will be important, but even more important may be figuring out how to keep your own players out of the portal. It seems like some coaches don't want to have to do that, and if they don't they will deservedly bleed players to the portal. There is an unfortunate third side.. Some coaches have already shown a willingness to utilize the portal to free up scholarships by force (essentially). I think that one long predates the portal. |
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Post by azvolleydad on Jan 13, 2022 20:24:02 GMT -5
There is an unfortunate third side.. Some coaches have already shown a willingness to utilize the portal to free up scholarships by force (essentially). I think that one long predates the portal. But the portal makes it a lot easier on the coach. Both emotionally and reputationally. |
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Post by hochee on Jan 13, 2022 21:00:22 GMT -5
A. I wanna play for Salima. B. Winning is hard.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 13, 2022 21:43:41 GMT -5
Do you really not think that coaching records and accomplishments before 2019 are *at all* predictors of future performance? I'd believe that additional factors such as those you mention weaken the predictive power of past records and accomplishments. But not "at all" predictive? Right. I remember when one-and-done players started to dominate college basketball after the NBA instituted an age limit. Coach K still did well. And then had to embrace it to be able to compete if we’re telling the whole story |
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Post by bbg95 on Jan 13, 2022 22:24:56 GMT -5
Right. I remember when one-and-done players started to dominate college basketball after the NBA instituted an age limit. Coach K still did well. And then had to embrace it to be able to compete if we’re telling the whole story Right. That was my point. Coach K was able to adapt to the new environment, so his previous success was indicative of future performance. |
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Post by Phaedrus on Jan 14, 2022 10:58:29 GMT -5
Do you really not think that coaching records and accomplishments before 2019 are *at all* predictors of future performance? I'd believe that additional factors such as those you mention weaken the predictive power of past records and accomplishments. But not "at all" predictive? Right. I remember when one-and-done players started to dominate college basketball after the NBA instituted an age limit. Coach K still did well. That is one sample. Keep going. |
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