Boebert proposes coming out before 21 being illegal

[longboards]

Apr 2, 2022 16:39:32 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:37:15 GMT -5 longboards said:

Look at her tweet, it was posted on the first page of this thread:

"Why is it so unreasonable to require people to reach a certain level of maturity before making life-altering decisions about their sexuality and identity?"

See, she wrote 'sexuality and identity'.   There you go.

I want to see the actual tweet, the only actual tweet that has been shared does not say that..

It's literally the 5th post on page one of this thread...

[trojansc]

Holy f*ck. Holiday has asked *THREE* TIMES for someone to post a tweet, where is the tweet?! ....

that is in the first few posts of the thread.

[HOLIDAY]

Apr 2, 2022 16:41:00 GMT -5 longboards said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:39:32 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

I want to see the actual tweet, the only actual tweet that has been shared does not say that..

It's literally the 5th post on page one of this thread...

I know that if that’s all you have is that vague tweet then you better keep your mouth shut because you have no idea of the details of what she means.

[geddyleeridesagain]

Apr 2, 2022 16:34:54 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:33:33 GMT -5 geddyleeridesagain said:

Let's note that our government considers an 18-year-old mature enough to join, fight, and die for the United States. Or buy a gun. Or have consensual sex. Let's also note that gender reassignment - if that's what America's favorite high school dropout was actually referring to - is a medical decision that requires the agreement of multiple parties to happen. It is not the same thing as going down to the corner bodega and buying a pack of Marlboro's or a sixer of Bud. Her comment about "sexuality" seems pretty clear in its intent: You don't get to officially decide if you're gay, straight, bi, etcetera until you're 21. Which is utterly ridiculous.

Honest question, have you checked on the statistics of how many people reversed their gender assignment surgery?

I never have, no. Until now. According to this research paper, it's less than 1%.

Based on this review, there is an extremely low prevalence of regret in transgender patients after GAS. We believe this study corroborates the improvements made in regard to selection criteria for GAS.

However, the research does note that the term "regret" can be subjective, which may affect the accuracy of the study. Still, it would seem the number is pretty small regardless.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8099405/

[HOLIDAY]

Apr 2, 2022 16:41:44 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Holy f*ck. Holiday has asked *THREE* TIMES for someone to post a tweet, where is the tweet?! ....

that is in the first few posts of the thread.

That’s my effing point? This is what you have? This is what you people tore her apart on was a tweet sharing a perfectly common sense idea of why gender reassignment is probably not a good idea until 21? Hello, is anyone home at your peoples house?

[geddyleeridesagain]

Apr 2, 2022 16:36:02 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:34:29 GMT -5 geddyleeridesagain said:

"treasure publicly [sic]." What are you talking about?

For god sake’s let me edit for five seconds before you post.

LOL. Sorry.

[HOLIDAY]

www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20191007/Hundreds-of-trans-people-regret-changing-their-gender-says-trans-activist.aspx

Wouldn’t this be enough to possibly encourage people to wait three more years before making a life change?

[trojansc]

Apr 2, 2022 16:40:37 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:37:45 GMT -5 trojansc said:

There has been a LOT of misinformation regarding this. So, please share your statistics!

Wait a minute, you people are the experts on sexual identity and you don’t know that statistic? Don’t you think that’s probably something you should’ve checked out immediately before you promoted 18-year-olds to get a sex change?

More holidayisms. I never claimed to be an expert on sexual identity. It's certainly a complicated topic. I am in no shape or form capable or qualified to promote anyone to get a sex change of any age. I'm not a doctor nor an expert.
     

In a 2015 survey of nearly 28,000 people conducted by the U.S.-based National Center for Transgender Equality, only 8 percent of respondents reported detransitioning, and 62 percent of those people said they only detransitioned temporarily. The most common reason for detransitioning, according to the survey, was pressure from a parent, while only 0.4 percent of respondents said they detransitioned after realizing transitioning wasn’t right for them.

in the UK a survey of 3398 attendees of a gender identity clinic found that just sixteen – about 0.47% – experienced transition-related regret. Of these, even fewer went on to actually detransition.

In Sweden, a fifty-year longitudinal study on a cohort of 767 transgender people found that around two percent of participants expressed regret following gender-affirming surgery, although it is unclear how many of these participants were detransitioning as a consequence.

On average, 97% of people who are transgender are happy with their decision to transition. Only ~3% of trans people experience some form of regret, but may not detransition. These detransition statistics are for 2021.

Why Do People Detransition?

Well, why do people detransition? The main reason cited for detransition is social pressure. Recent research by Dr Jack Turban has found that around 90 percent of people who return to their birth gender in the US don’t do so because of regret or dissatisfaction, but because of pressure from family, school, work, or society in general.



The National Center for Transgender Equality found that the most common reasons for detransitioning were lack of support at home, problems in the workplace, and harassment and discrimination.

[HOLIDAY]

Apr 2, 2022 16:46:17 GMT -5 geddyleeridesagain said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:36:02 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

For god sake’s let me edit for five seconds before you post.

LOL. Sorry.

. Lol patience is not one of your strong suits

[geddyleeridesagain]

Apr 2, 2022 16:39:32 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:37:15 GMT -5 longboards said:

Look at her tweet, it was posted on the first page of this thread:

"Why is it so unreasonable to require people to reach a certain level of maturity before making life-altering decisions about their sexuality and identity?"

See, she wrote 'sexuality and identity'.   There you go.

I want to see the actual tweet, the only actual tweet that has been shared does not say that..

Direct from the horse's mouth, here's Bobo's Twitter feed: It's five or six posts down:

twitter.com/laurenboebert

[HOLIDAY]

Apr 2, 2022 16:47:52 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:40:37 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

Wait a minute, you people are the experts on sexual identity and you don’t know that statistic? Don’t you think that’s probably something you should’ve checked out immediately before you promoted 18-year-olds to get a sex change?

More holidayisms. I never claimed to be an expert on sexual identity. It's certainly a complicated topic. I am in no shape or form capable or qualified to promote anyone to get a sex change of any age. I'm not a doctor nor an expert.
     

In a 2015 survey of nearly 28,000 people conducted by the U.S.-based National Center for Transgender Equality, only 8 percent of respondents reported detransitioning, and 62 percent of those people said they only detransitioned temporarily. The most common reason for detransitioning, according to the survey, was pressure from a parent, while only 0.4 percent of respondents said they detransitioned after realizing transitioning wasn’t right for them.

in the UK a survey of 3398 attendees of a gender identity clinic found that just sixteen – about 0.47% – experienced transition-related regret. Of these, even fewer went on to actually detransition.

In Sweden, a fifty-year longitudinal study on a cohort of 767 transgender people found that around two percent of participants expressed regret following gender-affirming surgery, although it is unclear how many of these participants were detransitioning as a consequence.

On average, 97% of people who are transgender are happy with their decision to transition. Only ~3% of trans people experience some form of regret, but may not detransition. These detransition statistics are for 2021.

Why Do People Detransition?

Well, why do people detransition? The main reason cited for detransition is social pressure. Recent research by Dr Jack Turban has found that around 90 percent of people who return to their birth gender in the US don’t do so because of regret or dissatisfaction, but because of pressure from family, school, work, or society in general.



The National Center for Transgender Equality found that the most common reasons for detransitioning were lack of support at home, problems in the workplace, and harassment and discrimination.

. Now this is information, good job Trojan.

[trojansc]

Apr 2, 2022 16:44:03 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:41:44 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Holy f*ck. Holiday has asked *THREE* TIMES for someone to post a tweet, where is the tweet?! ....

that is in the first few posts of the thread.

That’s my effing point? This is what you have? This is what you people tore her apart on was a tweet sharing a perfectly common sense idea of why gender reassignment is probably not a good idea until 21? Hello, is anyone home at your peoples house?

Funny, holiday claims I'm an expert on gender identity/sexuality (even though I've never said that). Then he says that it's perfectly *common sense*, so, I guess HE is the expert now?

Anyways, like I mentioned to n00b, who seems to be in agreeance, the point is that she mentioned sexuality and identity. So, I think a reasonable assumption is she meant that people should not declare their sexuality until 21.

[HOLIDAY]

Apr 2, 2022 16:48:18 GMT -5 geddyleeridesagain said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:39:32 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

I want to see the actual tweet, the only actual tweet that has been shared does not say that..

Direct from the horse's mouth, here's Bobo's Twitter feed: It's five or six posts down:

twitter.com/laurenboebert

Thank you, I appreciate that and to me she’s talking about gender reassignment. Why do you all assume that she isn’t?

[HOLIDAY]

Apr 2, 2022 16:50:37 GMT -5 trojansc said:

Apr 2, 2022 16:44:03 GMT -5 HOLIDAY said:

That’s my effing point? This is what you have? This is what you people tore her apart on was a tweet sharing a perfectly common sense idea of why gender reassignment is probably not a good idea until 21? Hello, is anyone home at your peoples house?

Funny, holiday claims I'm an expert on gender identity/sexuality (even though I've never said that). Then he says that it's perfectly *common sense*, so, I guess HE is the expert now?

Anyways, like I mentioned to n00b, who seems to be in agreeance, the point is that she mentioned sexuality and identity. So, I think a reasonable assumption is she meant that people should not declare their sexuality until 21.

Now you’re dragging noob Into your debate to try to make it seem more presentable? Sorry, not buying it

[HOLIDAY]

I’m headed to the church, I need to pray for all your bat %*$# crazy people. LOL, you people are absolutely deranged. Next time you’re going to debate issue don’t be so damn dumb about it. I have to be nice once I go into the church so I’m getting it all out of my system.