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Post by HOLIDAY on Apr 2, 2022 16:54:20 GMT -5
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Post by trojansc on Apr 2, 2022 16:55:19 GMT -5
Funny, holiday claims I'm an expert on gender identity/sexuality (even though I've never said that). Then he says that it's perfectly *common sense*, so, I guess HE is the expert now? Anyways, like I mentioned to n00b, who seems to be in agreeance, the point is that she mentioned sexuality and identity. So, I think a reasonable assumption is she meant that people should not declare their sexuality until 21. Now you’re dragging noob Into your debate to try to make it seem more presentable? Sorry, not buying it No. You asked a question in your previous post about why one might think it was not just limited to gender reassignment. That was answered in my response to n00b's point earlier. Which makes me think (since you kept asking for an official tweet that was already posted) you probably didn't even read the whole thread. Since you probably won't even go back and re-read that, the point is that she could have made it more clear by specifically mentioning transitioning/reassignment/surgery. She did not. She said sexuality AND identity (as this has been mentioned by multiple posters now).
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Post by HOLIDAY on Apr 2, 2022 16:56:45 GMT -5
Now you’re dragging noob Into your debate to try to make it seem more presentable? Sorry, not buying it No. You asked a question in your previous post about why one might think it was not just limited to gender reassignment. That was answered in my response to n00b's point earlier. Which makes me think (since you kept asking for an official tweet that was already posted) you probably didn't even read the whole thread. Since you probably won't even go back and re-read that, the point is that she could have made it more clear by specifically mentioning transitioning/reassignment/surgery. She did not. She said sexuality AND identity (as this has been mentioned by multiple posters now). So you assumed the worst because she’s your political foe right?
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Post by trojansc on Apr 2, 2022 17:09:46 GMT -5
So you assumed the worst because she’s your political foe right? I don’t think what I assumed was the worst. I think it was quite reasonable based on her specific verbiage. It’s certainly plausible. Don’t project yourself onto others re: political foe. I don’t like to overgeneralize beliefs based on party affiliation, even though this may be to my own detriment.
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Post by longboards on Apr 2, 2022 17:40:35 GMT -5
It's literally the 5th post on page one of this thread... I know that if that’s all you have is that vague tweet then you better keep your mouth shut because you have no idea of the details of what she means. I’m just responding to what she said… she added sexuality to HER statement. It’s not cryptic nor complicated. She’s saying you should be 21 to be mature enough to make decisions about sexuality and identity. It’s also funny that you say we have no idea of what she means, but apparently you do. All I know is what she said on Twitter (1st page, 5th post). You’re the one trying to interpret something you think is vague.
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Post by n00b on Apr 2, 2022 17:48:32 GMT -5
I know that if that’s all you have is that vague tweet then you better keep your mouth shut because you have no idea of the details of what she means. I’m just responding to what she said… she added sexuality to HER statement. It’s not cryptic nor complicated. She’s saying you should be 21 to be mature enough to make decisions about sexuality and identity. It’s also funny that you say we have no idea of what she means, but apparently you do. All I know is what she said on Twitter (1st page, 5th post). You’re the one trying to interpret something you think is vague. I would argue that losing your ability to procreate is related to sexuality. That's kinda the point. It becomes about more than how you identify when you start implementing irreversible medical interventions. Boebert hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt, so I don't know what she means. But I don't think issues of 'sexuality' would be limited to 'coming out'.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Apr 2, 2022 18:17:37 GMT -5
I know that if that’s all you have is that vague tweet then you better keep your mouth shut because you have no idea of the details of what she means. I’m just responding to what she said… she added sexuality to HER statement. It’s not cryptic nor complicated. She’s saying you should be 21 to be mature enough to make decisions about sexuality and identity. It’s also funny that you say we have no idea of what she means, but apparently you do. All I know is what she said on Twitter (1st page, 5th post). You’re the one trying to interpret something you think is vague. I am sorry but my first response to you was bitchy. I don’t think any of us know what she means for sure unless we ask her. Given what is the hot topic of today my guess is gender reassignment. The problem is Democrats always assume the absolute worst and then broadcast that. It’s like Donald Trump all over again. Be honest.
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Post by longboards on Apr 2, 2022 18:27:46 GMT -5
I’m just responding to what she said… she added sexuality to HER statement. It’s not cryptic nor complicated. She’s saying you should be 21 to be mature enough to make decisions about sexuality and identity. It’s also funny that you say we have no idea of what she means, but apparently you do. All I know is what she said on Twitter (1st page, 5th post). You’re the one trying to interpret something you think is vague. I would argue that losing your ability to procreate is related to sexuality. That's kinda the point. It becomes about more than how you identify when you start implementing irreversible medical interventions. Boebert hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt, so I don't know what she means. But I don't think issues of 'sexuality' would be limited to 'coming out'. I personally have not heard of people relating sexuality to the ability to procreate. There are straight people who cannot procreate and lgbtq people who can and do. I thought it was about who you’re attracted to.
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Post by longboards on Apr 2, 2022 18:29:05 GMT -5
I’m just responding to what she said… she added sexuality to HER statement. It’s not cryptic nor complicated. She’s saying you should be 21 to be mature enough to make decisions about sexuality and identity. It’s also funny that you say we have no idea of what she means, but apparently you do. All I know is what she said on Twitter (1st page, 5th post). You’re the one trying to interpret something you think is vague. I am sorry but my first response to you was bitchy. I don’t think any of us know what she means for sure unless we ask her. Given what is the hot topic of today my guess is gender reassignment. The problem is Democrats always assume the absolute worst and then broadcast that. It’s like Donald Trump all over again. Be honest. Sounds like Lucy has some ‘splaining to do… not that I actually expect her to clarify the quote.
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Post by tomclen on Apr 2, 2022 19:28:24 GMT -5
I don't fully know what Bobert meant in her Tweet.
I don't fully know what a certain VTer means in any of his posts.
But I know they're both idiots.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 2, 2022 19:54:23 GMT -5
Again, I was having issues with my internet access (was stuck with low-speed cellular data on a phone). But I finally got halfway decent access and was able to look up the actual tweet. Many it's a doozy on so many different levels. And just in case she deletes it: We require people to be 21 to purchase alcohol beverages, and 21 to purchase tobacco products.
Why is it so unreasonable to require people to reach a certain level of maturity before making life-altering decisions about their sexuality and identity?So she actually believe this. Not only that one shouldn't come out, but that it's somehow wrong to make decisions about one's own sexuality before turning 21. So exactly what does that mean really? One can't date? Or anyone with thoughts of same-sex attraction have to report it and then have those feelings wiped by hypnosis until they turn 21? Or does this mean everyone? So sex should be illegal before age 21 on the basis that people don't have the maturity to understand that they're making a life-altering decision. Or maybe marriage can't be legal until all parties are 21? This is just bizarre thinking. I'm annoyed that she claims it's a "decision". How many cis-hetero people think it was a "decision" for them to be who they are? Why do they think it is a "decision" for other people?
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Post by BearClause on Apr 2, 2022 20:06:00 GMT -5
I don't fully know what Bobert meant in her Tweet. I don't fully know what a certain VTer means in any of his posts. But I know they're both idiots. It’s pretty obvious that she didn’t think it through before making the statement. However, I don’t really expect that she would either clarify nor back off.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Apr 2, 2022 20:10:31 GMT -5
Again, I was having issues with my internet access (was stuck with low-speed cellular data on a phone). But I finally got halfway decent access and was able to look up the actual tweet. Many it's a doozy on so many different levels. And just in case she deletes it: We require people to be 21 to purchase alcohol beverages, and 21 to purchase tobacco products.
Why is it so unreasonable to require people to reach a certain level of maturity before making life-altering decisions about their sexuality and identity?So she actually believe this. Not only that one shouldn't come out, but that it's somehow wrong to make decisions about one's own sexuality before turning 21. So exactly what does that mean really? One can't date? Or anyone with thoughts of same-sex attraction have to report it and then have those feelings wiped by hypnosis until they turn 21? Or does this mean everyone? So sex should be illegal before age 21 on the basis that people don't have the maturity to understand that they're making a life-altering decision. Or maybe marriage can't be legal until all parties are 21? This is just bizarre thinking. I'm annoyed that she claims it's a "decision". How many cis-hetero people think it was a "decision" for them to be who they are? Why do they think it is a "decision" for other people? Mike...if you choose to cut your own dick off because you identify as a woman that is a decision that only you can make...unless you Democrats get your way and start having quack doctors, morons like Tomglen, or idiot parents that think its a great idea to gender re-assign their five year old....Way to go Disney.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2022 21:25:19 GMT -5
I'm annoyed that she claims it's a "decision". How many cis-hetero people think it was a "decision" for them to be who they are? Why do they think it is a "decision" for other people? Mike...if you choose to cut your own dick off because you identify as a woman that is a decision that only you can make...unless you Democrats get your way and start having quack doctors, morons like Tomglen, or idiot parents that think its a great idea to gender re-assign their five year old....Way to go Disney. Yeah Mike! Take that!
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Post by HOLIDAY on Apr 2, 2022 22:06:50 GMT -5
I don't fully know what Bobert meant in her Tweet. I don't fully know what a certain VTer means in any of his posts. But I know they're both idiots. Tom, I really wish when you’re calling me an idiot you would learn how to spell Boebert. Kind of defeats the purpose of you acting more wise than I am when you can’t spell. That’s twice Tommy.
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