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Post by colonial2415 on Apr 20, 2022 5:45:37 GMT -5
Coaches have any relationship in any aspect is wrong. Even if it’s a volunteer that’s only 1 or two years older than the player, it’s till wrong and not allowed. I’ve had a close up view to a large D1 program and I can assure you that if a volunteer coach had a relationship with a player they would be fired immediately. Student managers are different in the sense that they are also students at the Univeristy and are in no position of power over the player. They have no say in who’s starting or who is/isn’t doing well. Their job is mainly to do things like keep stats, setup drills, shag balls, put up and take down nets, etc. I don't disagree that it's a bad idea, just that you hit a point that it is more appropriate to be team policy rather than school policy. Volunteer assistants run the gamut from international head coaches (Jamie Morrison at Texas) to recent grads that may be the same age or even younger than some of their players. In general, even when full grown professional adults, coaches dating players is a bad idea. Just look at the 1996 USA women's volleyball team. What happened with the 1996 Women’s National team?
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 20, 2022 9:15:52 GMT -5
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Apr 20, 2022 17:49:50 GMT -5
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Post by Riviera Minestrone on Apr 20, 2022 17:53:26 GMT -5
Just read about this. Sad!
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Post by walrust on Apr 20, 2022 19:11:33 GMT -5
I don't disagree that it's a bad idea, just that you hit a point that it is more appropriate to be team policy rather than school policy. Volunteer assistants run the gamut from international head coaches (Jamie Morrison at Texas) to recent grads that may be the same age or even younger than some of their players. In general, even when full grown professional adults, coaches dating players is a bad idea. Just look at the 1996 USA women's volleyball team. What happened with the 1996 Women’s National team? I think they're alluding to Kent Miller and the women's player he was dating or crushing on. I can't quite remember which member of the team it was. Tammy Liley maybe.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2022 19:19:23 GMT -5
Beyond the stat given that 21% of Canadian female athletes slept with a coach, I was really disturbed by the coach they quoted who said it's no big deal because every coach/athlete's fallen in love with one another before, as if this is all good and natural. What the hell. I know very few coaches who have fallen in love with out of their athletes or vice-versa. Have times changed or do I just hang out with the "wrong" crowd?
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 20, 2022 19:23:49 GMT -5
Beyond the stat given that 21% of Canadian female athletes slept with a coach, I was really disturbed by the coach they quoted who said it's no big deal because every coach/athlete's fallen in love with one another before, as if this is all good and natural. What the hell. I know very few coaches who have fallen in love with out of their athletes or vice-versa. Have times changed or do I just hang out with the "wrong" crowd? That particular article was from 2001 about 1996. I'd like to think we've gotten a little more enlightened since then, but then you read about Claes and Shriver. Edit to add: Actually, Shriver was 17 around 1980. She is only talking about it now, so she was even earlier than Butler, I think. Even stranger, I looked at her wiki page and she was married to George Lazenby?
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Post by bigjohn043 on Apr 20, 2022 20:23:19 GMT -5
Beyond the stat given that 21% of Canadian female athletes slept with a coach, I was really disturbed by the coach they quoted who said it's no big deal because every coach/athlete's fallen in love with one another before, as if this is all good and natural. What the hell. I know very few coaches who have fallen in love with out of their athletes or vice-versa. Have times changed or do I just hang out with the "wrong" crowd? I wasn't so disturbed by the idea that every coach/player at some level falls in love. But it is the job of the coach to make sure that nothing happens. Feelings are feelings. But the coach is in charge and has to understand what is right and wrong.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Apr 21, 2022 7:04:03 GMT -5
Beyond the stat given that 21% of Canadian female athletes slept with a coach, I was really disturbed by the coach they quoted who said it's no big deal because every coach/athlete's fallen in love with one another before, as if this is all good and natural. What the hell. I know very few coaches who have fallen in love with out of their athletes or vice-versa. Have times changed or do I just hang out with the "wrong" crowd? I actually went to that University and took one of that professor's classes. At that time there was a coach on staff who had married one of his ex-players. One of my high school teachers was also in a relationship with a student which they revealed at the after graduation boat cruise. Technically she was no longer a student (by a couple of days) so I guess they felt it was safe to go public with their relationship. They later got married and a few years after that, were divorced.
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Post by lotstodo2023 on Apr 21, 2022 9:05:53 GMT -5
This article was good. Thank you for sharing.
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Post by staticb on Apr 21, 2022 11:29:54 GMT -5
I know very few coaches who have fallen in love with out of their athletes or vice-versa. Have times changed or do I just hang out with the "wrong" crowd? I know a lot of coaches and I don't know any (at least that have admitted to it) That said, I suspect in the college world, where a lot of coaches (especially assistants) are young themselves, that number has probably gone up. Most coaching jobs don't pay a lot of $$$, and it's younger folks taking it where the age gap isn't huge. (though the power dynamic is still there)
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Post by moderndaycoach on Apr 28, 2022 12:59:19 GMT -5
Them citing all the clubs that pulled teams doesn't really mean much to me, welcome to the new age - you did unthinkable stuff years ago and were barley punished so now social media worked to cancel you for being so arrogant about what you did. To say people used the me too movement as an opportunity to lie is disgusting, Danielle is a horrible person for even advertising that as a main selling point on her website.
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Post by bigjohn043 on Apr 28, 2022 14:55:21 GMT -5
The lawsuit is a bit strange. It is clear that Champion Women essentially organized a boycott. But those happen all of the time. Certainly isn't tortious interference. They also claim that Champion Women lied in the course of organizing these boycotts. That is also going to be tricky to prove. This is especially true given the number of sport organizations that have banned him and the number of public stories and article saying essentially the same thing....
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 28, 2022 15:07:33 GMT -5
The lawsuit is a bit strange. It is clear that Champion Women essentially organized a boycott. But those happen all of the time. Certainly isn't tortious interference. They also claim that Champion Women lied in the course of organizing these boycotts. That is also going to be tricky to prove. This is especially true given the number of sport organizations that have banned him and the number of public stories and article saying essentially the same thing.... The suit has no merit. It's a SLAPP suit, designed simply to be vindictive and cost their opponents money unless they are willing to just go away.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 28, 2022 15:10:43 GMT -5
Them citing all the clubs that pulled teams doesn't really mean much to me, welcome to the new age - you did unthinkable stuff years ago and were barley punished so now social media worked to cancel you for being so arrogant about what you did. To say people used the me too movement as an opportunity to lie is disgusting, Danielle is a horrible person for even advertising that as a main selling point on her website. There's a reason there's a 1-lawyer firm pursuing this lawsuit.
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