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Post by pull3 on Nov 27, 2022 0:02:24 GMT -5
Loberg out here saying 8-10 teams will make the tournament... we can dream haha
Won't get 10 for sure.
But 6 is as stupid as some ppl think WI is the 4 seed after tonight in the fan bracketology. 7-8 is what it will be.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 0:06:47 GMT -5
Loberg out here saying 8-10 teams will make the tournament... we can dream haha
Won't get 10 for sure.
But 6 is as stupid as some ppl think WI is the 4 seed after tonight in the fan bracketology. 7-8 is what it will be.
7-8 sounds fair to me, but I was getting absolutely toasted by everyone in the Bracketology threads for proclaiming that a team like Northwestern should be making the tournament |
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Post by pull3 on Nov 27, 2022 0:10:30 GMT -5
Won't get 10 for sure.
But 6 is as stupid as some ppl think WI is the 4 seed after tonight in the fan bracketology. 7-8 is what it will be.
7-8 sounds fair to me, but I was getting absolutely toasted by everyone in the Bracketology threads for proclaiming that a team like Northwestern should be making the tournament
Fans are biased, especially every other conference fan is against the B1G. But Committee is not biased.
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Post by northwoods on Nov 27, 2022 0:13:21 GMT -5
If Northwestern can get dispensation for recent losses due to all their setters being injured, then they have a shot. The win over Illinois with thier setter back could help their case.
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Post by tablealgebra on Nov 27, 2022 0:14:47 GMT -5
With Podraza's late season loss of form, setter of the year is a mess. I'll laugh though if it's Shaffmaster and VT has like 500 conniptions over it.
It's probably between Hudson and Allick for FOY. Booth and Markley are also possibilities.
Landfair seems a really solid pick for POY - can't think of any outsides who compare favorably with her, inconsistency and late-season collapse rule out Pod and Londot, and I just don't see them picking Hart.
Sheffield for COY despite the fact the coaches picked UW to win conference. Schumacher-Cawley the darkhorse.
I'm totally spitballing with the following and haven't watched enough lower-tier teams to evaluate them fairly, but want to see how people more knowledgeable than I will respond.
First Team:
L Rodriguez (Neb)
K Murr (OSU)
M Podraza (OSU)
M Shaffmaster (Minn)
D Hart (UW)
B Allick (Neb)
C Booth (Minn)
R Hinton (U of I)
E Londot (OSU)
D Robinson (UW)
T Thomas-Ailara (NU)
T Landfair (Minn)
R Terry (U of I)
K Williams (PSU)
J Mruzik (Mich)
S Franklin (UW)
E Hudson (Pur)
M Ceres (IU)
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Post by buckypete on Nov 27, 2022 0:18:18 GMT -5
With Podraza's late season loss of form, setter of the year is a mess. I'll laugh though if it's Shaffmaster and VT has like 500 conniptions over it. It's probably between Hudson and Allick for FOY. Booth and Markley are also possibilities. Landfair seems a really solid pick for POY - can't think of any outsides who compare favorably with her, inconsistency and late-season collapse rule out Pod and Londot, and I just don't see them picking Hart. Sheffield for COY despite the fact the coaches picked UW to win conference. Schumacher-Cawley the darkhorse. I'm totally spitballing with the following and haven't watched enough lower-tier teams to evaluate them fairly, but want to see how people more knowledgeable than I will respond. First Team: L Rodriguez (Neb) K Murr (OSU) M Podraza (OSU) M Shaffmaster (Minn) D Hart (UW) B Allick (Neb) C Booth (Minn) R Hinton (U of I) E Londot (OSU) D Robinson (UW) T Thomas-Ailara (NU) T Landfair (Minn) R Terry (U of I) K Williams (PSU) J Mruzik (Mich) S Franklin (UW) E Hudson (Pur) M Ceres (IU) Love Sheff. He did an amazing job. It should absolutely be Schumacher-Cawley. People had Penn State left for dead. |
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Post by pull3 on Nov 27, 2022 0:21:10 GMT -5
With Podraza's late season loss of form, setter of the year is a mess. I'll laugh though if it's Shaffmaster and VT has like 500 conniptions over it. It's probably between Hudson and Allick for FOY. Booth and Markley are also possibilities. Landfair seems a really solid pick for POY - can't think of any outsides who compare favorably with her, inconsistency and late-season collapse rule out Pod and Londot, and I just don't see them picking Hart. Sheffield for COY despite the fact the coaches picked UW to win conference. Schumacher-Cawley the darkhorse. I'm totally spitballing with the following and haven't watched enough lower-tier teams to evaluate them fairly, but want to see how people more knowledgeable than I will respond. First Team: L Rodriguez (Neb) K Murr (OSU) M Podraza (OSU) M Shaffmaster (Minn) D Hart (UW) B Allick (Neb) C Booth (Minn) R Hinton (U of I) E Londot (OSU) D Robinson (UW) T Thomas-Ailara (NU) T Landfair (Minn) R Terry (U of I) K Williams (PSU) J Mruzik (Mich) S Franklin (UW) E Hudson (Pur) M Ceres (IU) Love Sheff. He did an amazing job. It should absolutely be Schumacher-Cawley. People had Penn State left for dead.
But this will leave the runaway Champions with zero awards, how would the committee convince themselves? Sometimes politics will get involved.
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Post by tablealgebra on Nov 27, 2022 0:22:24 GMT -5
With Podraza's late season loss of form, setter of the year is a mess. I'll laugh though if it's Shaffmaster and VT has like 500 conniptions over it. It's probably between Hudson and Allick for FOY. Booth and Markley are also possibilities. Landfair seems a really solid pick for POY - can't think of any outsides who compare favorably with her, inconsistency and late-season collapse rule out Pod and Londot, and I just don't see them picking Hart. Sheffield for COY despite the fact the coaches picked UW to win conference. Schumacher-Cawley the darkhorse. ... Love Sheff. He did an amazing job. It should absolutely be Schumacher-Cawley. People had Penn State left for dead. KSC did a great job, but Sheffield with so much turnover and improvement over the course of the year AND the conference championship I think is still the favorite. People were leaving PSU for dead in a very specific month in which they had a bunch of transfers out and didn't get their first choice hire, and then people assuming that things would collapse without Russ Rose there. By the start of the season I think it was accepted that PSU was still going to be a good team. |
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Post by InfoBot on Nov 27, 2022 0:23:01 GMT -5
Won't get 10 for sure.
But 6 is as stupid as some ppl think WI is the 4 seed after tonight in the fan bracketology. 7-8 is what it will be.
7-8 sounds fair to me, but I was getting absolutely toasted by everyone in the Bracketology threads for proclaiming that a team like Northwestern should be making the tournament Might be some changing of the mind on that: volleytalk.proboards.com/post/3218154 |
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Post by tablealgebra on Nov 27, 2022 0:24:16 GMT -5
And honestly, if UW hadn't run away with the championship I could have seen them giving McCutcheon a "lifetime achievement" COY award for Minnesota's late turnaround. I think it's fair to say they're currently the second likeliest team to get to Omaha in the B1G.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2022 0:35:30 GMT -5
If a 7th BIG team receives an NCAA bid, the Volleytalk NCAA Selection Show thread will be a NCAA committee BIG bias bash. So, let it happen  Michigan RPI 67; Michigan 8-12 BIG record...usually <.500 conference record not on the radar for an at-large bid. Northwestern RPI 73; 7-13 BIG record...usually <.500 conference records not on radar for an at-large bid. Illinois RPI 83; 10-10 BIG record...1 top 50 RPI win vs. Penn State RPI 19; multiple losses to lower half BIG teams. I don't remember any BIG team with RPI > 55 receiving an NCAA tournament bid. Several years past Illini received a bid with an RPI in lower 50s ...Volleytalk went Def Con 3. All this shows is a ridiculous blind over reliance on RPI by the volleyball community, along w a side of the classic B1G dismissal |
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Post by pull3 on Nov 27, 2022 0:46:07 GMT -5
If a 7th BIG team receives an NCAA bid, the Volleytalk NCAA Selection Show thread will be a NCAA committee BIG bias bash. So, let it happen Michigan RPI 67; Michigan 8-12 BIG record...usually <.500 conference record not on the radar for an at-large bid. Northwestern RPI 73; 7-13 BIG record...usually <.500 conference records not on radar for an at-large bid. Illinois RPI 83; 10-10 BIG record...1 top 50 RPI win vs. Penn State RPI 19; multiple losses to lower half BIG teams. I don't remember a BIG team with RPI > 51 receiving an NCAA tournament bid. 2019 Illini received a bid with an RPI 51 (11-9 BIG, 15-14 regular season)...Volleytalk went Def Con 3. It was a hoot
One of the reasons of that was that the B1G had already too many bids. They could not give us a 9th bid. This is a very different year.
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Post by InfoBot on Nov 27, 2022 0:58:39 GMT -5
With P5 conferences expanding NCAA tournament selection criteria for multiple sports will have to evolve/revamp and/or number of tournament teams increases...maybe tournament format changes also. I've had no luck determining 2022 NCAA Div 1 tournament committee members...usually easy to find. Per a post from n00b in the most recent Bracketology thread, the committee consists of reps from: Idaho State (Big Sky) - Chair Loyola-Chicago (Atlantic 10) Marquette (Big East) Utah State (Mt West) Tennessee (SEC) Texas (Big 12) Bowling Green (MAC) Missouri Valley Conference Washington (Pac-12) Coastal Carolina (Sun Belt) |
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Post by tablealgebra on Nov 27, 2022 1:07:53 GMT -5
If a 7th BIG team receives an NCAA bid, the Volleytalk NCAA Selection Show thread will be a NCAA committee BIG bias bash. So, let it happen Michigan RPI 67; Michigan 8-12 BIG record...usually <.500 conference record not on the radar for an at-large bid. Northwestern RPI 73; 7-13 BIG record...usually <.500 conference records not on radar for an at-large bid. Illinois RPI 83; 10-10 BIG record...1 top 50 RPI win vs. Penn State RPI 19; multiple losses to lower half BIG teams. I don't remember any BIG team with RPI > 55 receiving an NCAA tournament bid. Several years past Illini received a bid with an RPI in lower 50s ...Volleytalk went Def Con 3. All this shows is a ridiculous blind over reliance on RPI by the volleyball community, along w a side of the classic B1G dismissal If the NCAA told the committee "use what tools you want" NO ONE would use RPI. Everyone knows it sucks - it's inaccurate at best, it punishes teams for wins and rewards them for losses, and it can be, and is being, gamed. The community only uses RPI because the committee does, because the NCAA wants them to. Okay, that being said, based on results the B1G only deserves 6 teams. The two teams from the middle that should have made it had bad luck (injuries for NU who definitely would have made it otherwise, and Mark Rosen's health for U of M who was marginal anyway) |
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Post by gogophers on Nov 27, 2022 1:42:07 GMT -5
And honestly, if UW hadn't run away with the championship I could have seen them giving McCutcheon a "lifetime achievement" COY award for Minnesota's late turnaround. I think it's fair to say they're currently the second likeliest team to get to Omaha in the B1G. What late turnaround? Do you mean the last two days of the season? Yes, a weekend in which Minn goes 6-1 in sets against ## 5 and 8 is a great weekend. But Minn lost to PSU the week before that. Hardly a bad loss, but a disappointment just the same. In my opinion, Minnesota has been pretty much the same throughout the season: usually, very good; sometimes, not. |
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