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Post by HawaiiVB on May 18, 2022 17:53:41 GMT -5
Or we could grow the game so much that lower tier teams don’t negatively impact the postseason, not to mention expanding the tournament. It would be awesome if they expanded the post season tourney. Each year we see teams that deserved invites but were passed over. Hawaii was on the receiving end of this back when the Big West teams were in the MPSF. As for growing the game, it’s fine to schedule in one or two fledgling programs each season but let the other power teams take on their fair share of these matches. With the loosening of COVID restrictions, I’m hoping we can play a more competitive schedule even if it means hitting the road more often. You can't play someone if they don't want to play you. Unlike on the women's side, there is no power conference structure so the Big West IS the conference to be in right now. The MPSF is not even a full conference but a combo of many, but it is the closest thing to the Pac-12 right now. On one hand, Hawai'i can help some RPI-wise, but on the other hand, Hawai'i is a tough team to beat so early in the season currently. |
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Post by raian13 on May 19, 2022 17:43:31 GMT -5
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Post by staticb on May 19, 2022 17:47:14 GMT -5
Who doesn't love the spicy ahi at Foodland? |
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Post by goblin on May 19, 2022 18:23:33 GMT -5
It would be awesome if they expanded the post season tourney. Each year we see teams that deserved invites but were passed over. Hawaii was on the receiving end of this back when the Big West teams were in the MPSF. As for growing the game, it’s fine to schedule in one or two fledgling programs each season but let the other power teams take on their fair share of these matches. With the loosening of COVID restrictions, I’m hoping we can play a more competitive schedule even if it means hitting the road more often. You can't play someone if they don't want to play you. Unlike on the women's side, there is no power conference structure so the Big West IS the conference to be in right now. The MPSF is not even a full conference but a combo of many, but it is the closest thing to the Pac-12 right now. On one hand, Hawai'i can help some RPI-wise, but on the other hand, Hawai'i is a tough team to beat so early in the season currently. Sorry, I guess I don’t understand your point. So how is it that The Beach can schedule every Elite team from the MPSF plus Penn State while Hawaii can barely get one MPSF team on our schedule? The Beach was a strong team in 2021 and returned nearly everyone on a loaded roster while the Bows lost 4 AA. I don’t see the intimidation factor as being the reason to not schedule us. Like Ball State, you would think teams would jump at the chance to take down a NC in rebuild mode after an massive exodus of star players. I would more likely believe that either the schedule was planned very late which limited scheduling options or it was a strategic move by Wade to lighten up the schedule and give his new starters time to develop. If that’s the case, then it was a brilliant move on his part. A tougher non conference schedule is still on my wish list. |
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Post by westcoastvolleyfreak on May 19, 2022 18:40:46 GMT -5
uh i dont know if anyone has posted this in terms of 2023 recruits, i believe we picked up a Libero? Ryan Sears. he was posted as one of the 21 selected to train for the U19 national team. unfourunately didn't make the roster, but I don't remember if anyone else has posted about him. here he is listed here and committed to Hawaii. usavolleyball.org/story/twenty-one-athletes-selected-for-boys-u19-training-team/ |
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Post by 808empath on May 19, 2022 20:54:49 GMT -5
uh i dont know if anyone has posted this in terms of 2023 recruits, i believe we picked up a Libero? Ryan Sears. he was posted as one of the 21 selected to train for the U19 national team. unfourunately didn't make the roster, but I don't remember if anyone else has posted about him. here he is listed here and committed to Hawaii. usavolleyball.org/story/twenty-one-athletes-selected-for-boys-u19-training-team/Yes koavball posted about him on the 2022 thread |
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Post by ACE on May 19, 2022 21:12:58 GMT -5
You can't play someone if they don't want to play you. Unlike on the women's side, there is no power conference structure so the Big West IS the conference to be in right now. The MPSF is not even a full conference but a combo of many, but it is the closest thing to the Pac-12 right now. On one hand, Hawai'i can help some RPI-wise, but on the other hand, Hawai'i is a tough team to beat so early in the season currently. Sorry, I guess I don’t understand your point. So how is it that The Beach can schedule every Elite team from the MPSF plus Penn State while Hawaii can barely get one MPSF team on our schedule? The Beach was a strong team in 2021 and returned nearly everyone on a loaded roster while the Bows lost 4 AA. I don’t see the intimidation factor as being the reason to not schedule us. Like Ball State, you would think teams would jump at the chance to take down a NC in rebuild mode after an massive exodus of star players. I would more likely believe that either the schedule was planned very late which limited scheduling options or it was a strategic move by Wade to lighten up the schedule and give his new starters time to develop. If that’s the case, then it was a brilliant move on his part. A tougher non conference schedule is still on my wish list. As mentioned, USC and Peppedine canned their trip to Hawaii. Not sure why. UCLA and Hawaii have had some "bad blood" so they don't schedule any matches with each other at the moment. |
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Post by HawaiiVB on May 19, 2022 21:28:11 GMT -5
You can't play someone if they don't want to play you. Unlike on the women's side, there is no power conference structure so the Big West IS the conference to be in right now. The MPSF is not even a full conference but a combo of many, but it is the closest thing to the Pac-12 right now. On one hand, Hawai'i can help some RPI-wise, but on the other hand, Hawai'i is a tough team to beat so early in the season currently. Sorry, I guess I don’t understand your point. So how is it that The Beach can schedule every Elite team from the MPSF plus Penn State while Hawaii can barely get one MPSF team on our schedule? The Beach was a strong team in 2021 and returned nearly everyone on a loaded roster while the Bows lost 4 AA. I don’t see the intimidation factor as being the reason to not schedule us. Like Ball State, you would think teams would jump at the chance to take down a NC in rebuild mode after an massive exodus of star players. I would more likely believe that either the schedule was planned very late which limited scheduling options or it was a strategic move by Wade to lighten up the schedule and give his new starters time to develop. If that’s the case, then it was a brilliant move on his part. A tougher non conference schedule is still on my wish list. In this covid ish seasons, there were scheduled matches that were rescinded prior to the date. I can't speak to the reasons why it happened, but it did. Hawai'i had to scramble to fill those matches. In that instance, Hawai'i was left holding the bag. Also, in the recent past, there were schools that usually pencil in Hawai'i's pre-season tournaments as a recruiting tool, but have recently skipped it. If you are trying to build a lasting rivalry, the commitment should be assumed. But when it happens, both sides have to question the motives. |
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Post by westcoastvolleyfreak on May 19, 2022 21:35:59 GMT -5
uh i dont know if anyone has posted this in terms of 2023 recruits, i believe we picked up a Libero? Ryan Sears. he was posted as one of the 21 selected to train for the U19 national team. unfourunately didn't make the roster, but I don't remember if anyone else has posted about him. here he is listed here and committed to Hawaii. usavolleyball.org/story/twenty-one-athletes-selected-for-boys-u19-training-team/Yes koavball posted about him on the 2022 thread thank you for the response! didn't know that |
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Post by 808empath on May 19, 2022 21:43:22 GMT -5
Yes koavball posted about him on the 2022 thread thank you for the response! didn't know that You're welcome. If you go to that thread and type in Ryan Sears I'm sure it'll pop up or you can just go to koavball's profile and look at his recent posts. I'm sure you'll find all the future recruits |
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Post by VBQ on May 21, 2022 4:13:00 GMT -5
You can't play someone if they don't want to play you. Unlike on the women's side, there is no power conference structure so the Big West IS the conference to be in right now. The MPSF is not even a full conference but a combo of many, but it is the closest thing to the Pac-12 right now. On one hand, Hawai'i can help some RPI-wise, but on the other hand, Hawai'i is a tough team to beat so early in the season currently. Sorry, I guess I don’t understand your point. So how is it that The Beach can schedule every Elite team from the MPSF plus Penn State while Hawaii can barely get one MPSF team on our schedule? The Beach was a strong team in 2021 and returned nearly everyone on a loaded roster while the Bows lost 4 AA. I don’t see the intimidation factor as being the reason to not schedule us. Like Ball State, you would think teams would jump at the chance to take down a NC in rebuild mode after an massive exodus of star players. I would more likely believe that either the schedule was planned very late which limited scheduling options or it was a strategic move by Wade to lighten up the schedule and give his new starters time to develop. If that’s the case, then it was a brilliant move on his part. A tougher non conference schedule is still on my wish list. From an outsider looking in, does Hawaii really need to play the MPSF, when they play in the best conference? There were many teams that had stronger non-conference, but in the end, only the Big West teams were left standing. A strong schedule next season would be nice, but I think Hawaii gets tested more with the competition in their conference, with the Beach, UCSB, UCI, UCSD, etc. |
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Post by stphfplt on May 21, 2022 11:42:07 GMT -5
Just listened to a IYCHTH podcast… which got me thinking — Could Clay Stanley be JW’s replacement 👀
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Post by ACE on May 21, 2022 17:02:56 GMT -5
Sorry, I guess I don’t understand your point. So how is it that The Beach can schedule every Elite team from the MPSF plus Penn State while Hawaii can barely get one MPSF team on our schedule? The Beach was a strong team in 2021 and returned nearly everyone on a loaded roster while the Bows lost 4 AA. I don’t see the intimidation factor as being the reason to not schedule us. Like Ball State, you would think teams would jump at the chance to take down a NC in rebuild mode after an massive exodus of star players. I would more likely believe that either the schedule was planned very late which limited scheduling options or it was a strategic move by Wade to lighten up the schedule and give his new starters time to develop. If that’s the case, then it was a brilliant move on his part. A tougher non conference schedule is still on my wish list. From an outsider looking in, does Hawaii really need to play the MPSF, when they play in the best conference? There were many teams that had stronger non-conference, but in the end, only the Big West teams were left standing. A strong schedule next season would be nice, but I think Hawaii gets tested more with the competition in their conference, with the Beach, UCSB, UCI, UCSD, etc. To get them prepared for post season... no. To put them in position for a post season...yes. You want that head to head when being on the bubble of making an at large bid. This year, going into the Big West Tournament, Hawaii had ZERO wins over the top 5 teams. Long Beach : 0-2 Ball State: 0-2 Penn State: did not play UCLA: did not play USC: Did not play |
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Post by brooselee on May 21, 2022 22:52:52 GMT -5
Just listened to a IYCHTH podcast… which got me thinking — Could Clay Stanley be JW’s replacement 👀 Highly unlikely. I don’t think Clay is into coaching. At least, I haven’t read anything about him coaching. A better candidate could be someone like Brooke Sedore or Kolby Kanetake. |
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Post by noblesol on May 22, 2022 10:31:27 GMT -5
Just listened to a IYCHTH podcast… which got me thinking — Could Clay Stanley be JW’s replacement 👀 Highly unlikely. I don’t think Clay is into coaching. At least, I haven’t read anything about him coaching. A better candidate could be someone like Brooke Sedore or Kolby Kanetake. or Taylor Averill, if he's interested in coaching. |
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