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Post by mervinswerved on Jun 25, 2022 6:03:31 GMT -5
One of those two things weren't corrected within the system. So then egregious wrongs can be corrected both inside of and outside the system? That's a good thing, is it not? No I'd say that means it's a bad system.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jun 25, 2022 6:11:08 GMT -5
Someone ran over protesters in Iowa with a truck last night.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jun 25, 2022 7:02:28 GMT -5
Cops assaulting reporters.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jun 25, 2022 7:40:07 GMT -5
I don't know if anyone addressed this, but haven't both of those things been corrected? The system, although not perfect, has allowed for correction in the past and will hopefully do so again in the future when warranted. Again, I apologize if this has been covered already. One of those two things weren't corrected within the system. Ultimately they were both corrected within the system, through amendments. BTW, the ERA has passed, and was blocked by Trump on some weak procedural grounds, and then by white male Republicans (of course) through filibuster. It should still get through. It would blow up Alito's opinion, which he knows, which makes what the SCOTUS did that much more aggregious.
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Post by valleyvolley1 on Jun 25, 2022 7:43:35 GMT -5
what an ass, holiday and other cibservatived have been called names by your junk for years and you never called any of your buddies out. Only when you are called out, hypocrite much. Stop being a leftistvidiot and there would be no reason to. Also, quit lying on here would be a great start also think again for years!! lol really, making stuff up again, because...I guess it's convenient to for the immediacy of your anger more name calling idiot ass ... there you go again, I guess if you can't engage in an intelligent deliberation, you resort to...name calling!! good luck with that anger management What a loser and a liar, typical of the people you side with. You are the angry one. You hate God, Christians and anyone that is not a communist, but love those who want to bring freedom and liberty down. No kids either, better for the world though.
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Post by mervinswerved on Jun 25, 2022 8:07:52 GMT -5
One of those two things weren't corrected within the system. Ultimately they were both corrected within the system, through amendments. BTW, the ERA has passed, and was blocked by Trump on some weak procedural grounds, and then by white male Republicans (of course) through filibuster. It should still get through. It would blow up Alito's opinion, which he knows, which makes what the SCOTUS did that much more aggregious. The 13th amendment was passed during a civil war where a third of the states weren't represented in Congress and ratified during a literal military occupation of the south. Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely a good thing that happened and one of the great American tragedies is the failure of Reconstruction, but the idea the 13th was passed under some sort of regular order just isn't true.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 25, 2022 8:13:29 GMT -5
I love the double standard, it’s freaking hilarious. You were absolutely OK with putting up a giant fence around the United States capital because that ‘out of control’ MAGA crowd could kill people at any time,but …….God forbid we keep peace in any other state capital. This is an outrage and an injustice!!!! Can you say giant ugly hypocrites? It never gets old watching you people talk out of both sides of your mouth. This crowd dispersed, while your crowd beat police officers, broke windows and doors and threatened to hang the Vice-President. If that's not "out of control", then no wonder your life is a mess. The crowd dispersed because the police did something before it got crazy correct? It’s a good thing Nancy Pelosi wasn’t in charge of this one or she would’ve allowed this crowd to stampede the Capitol also. But this moment isn’t as politically advantageous now is it?
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Jun 25, 2022 8:14:56 GMT -5
So then egregious wrongs can be corrected both inside of and outside the system? That's a good thing, is it not? No I'd say that means it's a bad system. But again, a bad system that has, in the past been corrected. The original comment made was about what we then called women, and African Americans not being allowed to vote. Neither of those continue to be the case. Please keep in mind that my comment is not as much about the system being good or bad, as it is that corrections can be made when necessary. I still think that's a good thing. I can see where your eyes are fixed and I'm doubting there's any wiggle room for you on this one.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 25, 2022 8:16:32 GMT -5
Cops assaulting reporters. They were obviously in the way. Get the hell out of the way reporters.
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Post by moody on Jun 25, 2022 8:17:39 GMT -5
Cops assaulting reporters. They were obviously in the way. Get the hell out of the way reporters. In the way of what? They were legally protesting on a public sidewalk.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jun 25, 2022 8:18:35 GMT -5
Ultimately they were both corrected within the system, through amendments. BTW, the ERA has passed, and was blocked by Trump on some weak procedural grounds, and then by white male Republicans (of course) through filibuster. It should still get through. It would blow up Alito's opinion, which he knows, which makes what the SCOTUS did that much more aggregious. The 13th amendment was passed during a civil war where a third of the states weren't represented in Congress and ratified during a literal military occupation of the south. Don't get me wrong, it's absolutely a good thing that happened and one of the great American tragedies is the failure of Reconstruction, but the idea the 13th was passed under some sort of regular order just isn't true. I wasnt trying to say that the circumstances were normal or ideal, just that the right steps were taken. At this point I think I am fully on board with passing the ERA during a literal full military occupation of the south.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Jun 25, 2022 8:20:50 GMT -5
think again for years!! lol really, making stuff up again, because...I guess it's convenient to for the immediacy of your anger more name calling idiot ass ... there you go again, I guess if you can't engage in an intelligent deliberation, you resort to...name calling!! good luck with that anger management What a loser and a liar, typical of the people you side with. You are the angry one. You hate God, Christians and anyone that is not a communist, but love those who want to bring freedom and liberty down. No kids either, better for the world though. lol, dude you have no clue, I'm a Republican, you know, we believe in freedom of the individual and take our cues from Lincoln, abd not a Trump false idol worshiper. And base beliefs on Christianity which is not to hate. and have a great kid, but then you have no clue. loser, liar....there you go. all you got is name calling ....ass, idiot, loser...I'm sure there'll be more your responses are soooo intelligent. you disagree and then name call. apparently 'pigeon-hole' people you disagree with because of anger management issues so you make it convenient to label people to fit your narrative. I disagree so therefore I must be a communist, lol. whether it's Trump or AOC - it's similar to just control people and dictate their life...control freaks like you, Trump, Cruz, Warren, AOC. they're not Repubs or Dems, they are just extremists who are control freaks like you at heart. you don't have anything to do with liberty, apparently you think being a storm trooper is the way to go. If you had the power you lust, you'd probably go down that path of rounding up those you disagree with and putting them in concentration camps, as history turns out for those egomaniacs like Hitler, Stalin, PUtin, Xi, and Trump would as well if left to his own devices as the man you worship churns through anyone and everyone and eventually tries to ruin them when he has no further use for them yeah, your man Trump loves freedom and liberty, right, lol. so much so he wants to trample all over America and Democracy. but believe what you want, as you do, in your own hyped up comfort world
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Post by n00b on Jun 25, 2022 8:23:54 GMT -5
If this had been the response at the Capitol on January 6th, things would've gone much differently.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 25, 2022 8:24:54 GMT -5
They were obviously in the way. Get the hell out of the way reporters. In the way of what? They were legally protesting on a public sidewalk. gas them snyway
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 25, 2022 8:26:02 GMT -5
If this had been the response at the Capitol on January 6th, things would've gone much differently. . But again that wouldnt have been politically advantageous to Nancy Pelosi.
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