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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2022 14:33:18 GMT -5
I have to “prove” your fake claim that any money spent by a public university is “public money”?? (Even though that’s not the wording mike used)
Dishonesty is all you contribute.
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Post by mervinswerved on Sept 28, 2022 16:54:33 GMT -5
Dishonesty = providing facts about things gophers doesn't understand.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2022 16:57:39 GMT -5
Again, will be refreshing when the settlement is announced and that no taxpayer money will be used to pay Rolovich. Will prove I’m correct and will prove merv’s force assert attempt as nothing more than what he wants to be true but in the real world false.
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Post by FUBAR on Sept 28, 2022 17:23:28 GMT -5
Dishonesty = providing facts about things gophers doesn't understand. I feel like I'm watching you teach a child how to play chess, and he is insisting on putting an X in that square. Keep on "winning" gophers4life! You da man.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2022 17:40:26 GMT -5
He has provided absolutely zero explanation for or support of the (false) claim “anything a public university is ‘public money’”.
Therefore, it absolutely shall not be considered any sort of ground truth.
Also, “public money” is a red herring from the actual point of discussion “taxpayer money”.
Let me know if you need me to educate you any further.
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Post by volleyguy on Sept 28, 2022 18:14:07 GMT -5
He has provided absolutely zero explanation for or support of the (false) claim “anything a public university is ‘public money’”. Therefore, it absolutely shall not be considered any sort of ground truth. Also, “public money” is a red herring from the actual point of discussion “taxpayer money”. Let me know if you need me to educate you any further. He grouped a university’s discretionary money under the umbrella of its public money (I presume a public university). He then differentiated foundation money from discretionary money. Somehow, you turned that into public money vs taxpayer money. He is generally correct. In many/most public universities, discretionary funds are a portion of the budget allocated for use, but not for a specific purpose. Foundation money is held in a separately incorporated entity, and consists of private donations and sometimes, public money of a different origin, such as federal grants, etc. Foundation money from a private donation is never public or taxpayer money (although university foundations are never quite entirely separate from the University as a legal matter.)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2022 18:21:01 GMT -5
Mike’s actual wording/point was “taxpayer money”. He’s locked into that because that’s the only way he can (pretend to) claim to be injured if WSU has to pay Rolovich.
However, as anyone who isn’t a liar will tell you, the only state taxpayer money that actually goes to WSU is from the state subsidy, which is highly restricted in what it can be spent on.
Therefore, when the true fact of the matter comes to pass — that WSU won’t use a single dime of the state subsidy to pay Rolovich — mike won’t have a leg to stand on to (pretend to) claim to be injured.
Merv then lied about public money, but that’s a red herring anyway.
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Post by volleyguy on Sept 28, 2022 18:28:45 GMT -5
Mike’s actual wording/point was “taxpayer money”. He’s locked into that because that’s the only way he can (pretend to) claim to be injured if WSU has to pay Rolovich. However, as anyone who isn’t a liar will tell you, the only state taxpayer money that actually goes to WSU is from the state subsidy, which is highly restricted in what it can be spent on. Therefore, when the true fact of the matter comes to pass — that WSU won’t use a single dime of the state subsidy to pay Rolovich — mike won’t have a leg to stand on to (pretend to) claim to be injured. Merv then lied about public money, but that’s a red herring anyway. His distinction may not turn out to relevant at WSU, but Merv didn’t lie. But I understand now that you were having two simultaneous arguments.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 28, 2022 18:58:41 GMT -5
It appears that Rolovich is suing the State of Washington. His initial tort claim was filed with the State risk management office a mandatory step prior to filing a lawsuit against the state or a state agency. Interestingly, according to the State Attorney General, Rolovich has not filed suit against the University itself - to date, at least. As such, any judgment or settlement would be paid through the State's self-insurance program. So, WSU would not be paying out of their own pocket (although they might see an increase in premiums charged by the State insurance fund), but the ultimate source of the funds used to pay off Rolovich could, I think, be considered public money/public funding/taxpayer money/chooseyourpoison.
Personally, I'd be somewhat surprised if Rolovich prevailed. A smallish settlement, perhaps, to make it go away, but big money?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2022 19:04:43 GMT -5
It appears that Rolovich is suing the State of Washington. His initial tort claim was filed with the State risk management office a mandatory step prior to filing a lawsuit against the state or a state agency. Interestingly, according to the State Attorney General, Rolovich has not filed suit against the University itself - to date, at least. As such, any judgment or settlement would be paid through the State's self-insurance program. So, WSU would not be paying out of their own pocket (although they might see an increase in premiums charged by the State insurance fund), but the ultimate source of the funds used to pay off Rolovich could, I think, be considered public money/public funding/taxpayer money/chooseyourpoison. Personally, I'd be somewhat surprised if Rolovich prevailed. A smallish settlement, perhaps, to make it go away, but big money? But then that entirely changes it. If this ends up being true, then fine I concede mike his injured status. Success here for Rolovich is entirely in principle. He already made millions from WSU as a HC.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Sept 28, 2022 19:07:52 GMT -5
It appears that Rolovich is suing the State of Washington. His initial tort claim was filed with the State risk management office a mandatory step prior to filing a lawsuit against the state or a state agency. Interestingly, according to the State Attorney General, Rolovich has not filed suit against the University itself - to date, at least. As such, any judgment or settlement would be paid through the State's self-insurance program. So, WSU would not be paying out of their own pocket (although they might see an increase in premiums charged by the State insurance fund), but the ultimate source of the funds used to pay off Rolovich could, I think, be considered public money/public funding/taxpayer money/chooseyourpoison. Personally, I'd be somewhat surprised if Rolovich prevailed. A smallish settlement, perhaps, to make it go away, but big money? But then that entirely changes it. If this ends up being true, then fine I concede mike his injured status. Success here for Rolovich is entirely in principle. He already made millions from WSU as a HC. Keep in mind the above is from the news reports I've read, not the original source - I've been trying to find a copy of the actual suit, as I'm curious about what Rolovich's specific claims are. If I find it, I'll post on here. But it does seem to make some sense for the person who was formerly the highest-paid state employee to sue the state itself.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 15, 2022 4:26:16 GMT -5
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Post by HOLIDAY on Nov 15, 2022 7:32:52 GMT -5
Good, I hope he absolutely fleeces them dry.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Nov 15, 2022 7:56:17 GMT -5
gophers4life deleted his account?
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Post by mervinswerved on Nov 15, 2022 8:13:10 GMT -5
oh no
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