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Post by ted_heise on Sept 1, 2022 20:02:32 GMT -5
What happened to Orr? Just tuned in.. We don’t know officially - but someone did say they saw her limping a bit. No official word. Don’t be making excuses now. |
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Post by wyredneck on Sept 1, 2022 20:28:32 GMT -5
I’m not so much concerned with 6-2 as I am with Orr not being one of the two I really missed her sets to the right. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Sept 1, 2022 20:29:17 GMT -5
Lol Cook said they practiced a 6-2 all week, it was the plan since Monday. Oop I’m not shocked by a 6-2 experiment, I’m surprised it doesn’t involve Orr. |
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Post by big10+4 fan on Sept 1, 2022 20:31:31 GMT -5
So trying to read through coach speak and what not, this is what I've come up with, anyone agree or am wayyyyy off base? Orr isn't there yet with tempo/location consistency and they don't feel like they have quite good enough of a slide attack for the 5-1 yet. So they might run with the 6-2 easing Orr into that eventually when she improves enough and then if they get the other areas shored up try going back to 5-1? Lauren did ask him about 5-1 with Hames and he didn't think so, that they were past that. Problem with this is (if this is the case of course) Hames is losing valuable game reps in the passing department etc.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Sept 1, 2022 20:34:53 GMT -5
So trying to read through coach speak and what not, this is what I've come up with, anyone agree or am wayyyyy off base? Orr isn't there yet with tempo/location consistency and they don't feel like they have quite good enough of a slide attack for the 5-1 yet. So they might run with the 6-2 easing Orr into that eventually when she improves enough and then if they get the other areas shored up try going back to 5-1? Lauren did ask him about 5-1 with Hames and he didn't think so, that they were past that. Problem with this is (if this is the case of course) Hames is losing valuable game reps in the passing department etc. This is suggesting that Orr is the third best setter. |
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Post by milkmandan on Sept 1, 2022 20:35:17 GMT -5
So trying to read through coach speak and what not, this is what I've come up with, anyone agree or am wayyyyy off base? Orr isn't there yet with tempo/location consistency and they don't feel like they have quite good enough of a slide attack for the 5-1 yet. So they might run with the 6-2 easing Orr into that eventually when she improves enough and then if they get the other areas shored up try going back to 5-1? Lauren did ask him about 5-1 with Hames and he didn't think so, that they were past that. Problem with this is (if this is the case of course) Hames is losing valuable game reps in the passing department etc. And Orr is losing valuable game reps in the "figuring out how to be the starting setter" department. Matches like this, which are basically guaranteed wins, are valuable to get young players reps. What kind of message does running a 6-2, while benching your presumptive starter, send to Orr? That at the drop of the hat we'll go back to the girl we told you not to worry about? This is playing with matches and gasoline-soaked rags. |
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Post by vup on Sept 1, 2022 20:55:10 GMT -5
Yeah, what? Very frustrating if you’re an Orr fan.
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Post by big10+4 fan on Sept 1, 2022 20:57:06 GMT -5
So trying to read through coach speak and what not, this is what I've come up with, anyone agree or am wayyyyy off base? Orr isn't there yet with tempo/location consistency and they don't feel like they have quite good enough of a slide attack for the 5-1 yet. So they might run with the 6-2 easing Orr into that eventually when she improves enough and then if they get the other areas shored up try going back to 5-1? Lauren did ask him about 5-1 with Hames and he didn't think so, that they were past that. Problem with this is (if this is the case of course) Hames is losing valuable game reps in the passing department etc. This is suggesting that Orr is the third best setter. Isn't that what this whole thing suggests at this point in time? |
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Post by staticb on Sept 1, 2022 20:57:41 GMT -5
This is suggesting that Orr is the third best setter. In terms of setting accuracy only, I think she is the 3rd best setter. An an overall player? I'm not sure. But the coaches owe it to the team to find the best possible combination on the court. |
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Post by Hawk Attack on Sept 1, 2022 21:04:12 GMT -5
Passing is no where up to par (too many subs) to make it happen. Well taking your elite passer out of the passing lineup to set is of course problematic. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Sept 1, 2022 21:05:32 GMT -5
Yeah, what? Very frustrating if you’re an Orr fan. Orr fan? What If you’re Orr? |
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Post by staticb on Sept 1, 2022 21:06:30 GMT -5
And Orr is losing valuable game reps in the "figuring out how to be the starting setter" department. Matches like this, which are basically guaranteed wins, are valuable to get young players reps. What kind of message does running a 6-2, while benching your presumptive starter, send to Orr? That at the drop of the hat we'll go back to the girl we told you not to worry about? This is playing with matches and gasoline-soaked rags. How is that different than Cook subbing in and out various hitters last season (and the seasons before that)? Leave no doubt, this is Husker Volleyball, your position is (and should be) always at risk. |
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Post by gibbyb1 on Sept 1, 2022 21:06:34 GMT -5
This is suggesting that Orr is the third best setter. In terms of setting accuracy only, I think she is the 3rd best setter. An an overall player? I'm not sure. But the coaches owe it to the team to find the best possible combination on the court. Im sure that is their only concern and it should be. |
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Post by milkmandan on Sept 1, 2022 21:19:18 GMT -5
And Orr is losing valuable game reps in the "figuring out how to be the starting setter" department. Matches like this, which are basically guaranteed wins, are valuable to get young players reps. What kind of message does running a 6-2, while benching your presumptive starter, send to Orr? That at the drop of the hat we'll go back to the girl we told you not to worry about? This is playing with matches and gasoline-soaked rags. How is that different than Cook subbing in and out various hitters last season (and the seasons before that)? Leave no doubt, this is Husker Volleyball, your position is (and should be) always at risk. Because a setter is a different type of position than a hitter. Orr needs every game rep she can get to build the connection with everyone, and didn't struggle so much on the first weekend to warrant a complete system shake-up, which had never been brought up as a possibility before, and in fact Cook had actively denied when directly asked. It gives the impression that Orr's being jerked around, and you run the real risk of undermining her confidence and alienating her, when you ideally have her for two more years. It's not like Hames ran a Swiss watch for the last four years, she got a three-block-long leash. I hope this is a one-match thing and not something they continue to mess with. |
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Post by nevollfan on Sept 1, 2022 21:31:35 GMT -5
I love the coaches on here thinking what is wrong with Cook. Thank God for you. Heavy sarcasm. We hit poorly against Pepperdine. Better tonight against maybe similar competition. Orr had some issues last week with tempo and certainly location. She is in the mix of three setters but has to show improvement in practice to get back in games. She is a better blocker at the net but not as proficient setting, right now.
The 6-2 allows four pins of ability to play more evenly. It creates more opportunities or options through more rotations for more hitters on given points. But it stresses better passing or at least adequate passing. In the 5-1, our passing isn’t stellar and limits who the setter can reasonably set, it seems. Orr isn’t out of the conversation but has to earn playing time with better location and tempo. My thought is if we stay in a 6-2, think about Batenhorst on the right and Krause on the left. Lauren brought that up in the radio telecast. Some plays reinforced that thought. We have legitimate options with better depth. Next year could be a team with better depth and options but with the transfer portal that could be dicey.
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