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Post by pavsec5row10 on Sept 11, 2022 9:27:12 GMT -5
Am I seeing this correctly? 23 blocks by Stanford? Yikes. No, they had 13 total blocks. 3 Solo and 20 block assists.
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Post by volleyball303 on Sept 11, 2022 9:32:47 GMT -5
All tournament team posted yet??
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Post by mplssetter on Sept 11, 2022 9:46:58 GMT -5
Time to clean it up (if you can), Mel and Hugh. I share some of your criticism, but I think you’re placing too much blame on Mel for this match. Bad passing and defense would be higher on my list.
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Post by comet on Sept 11, 2022 9:55:13 GMT -5
Time to clean it up (if you can), Mel and Hugh. I share some of your criticism, but I think you’re placing too much blame on Mel for this match. Bad passing and defense would be higher on my list. I agree, our serve receive was atrocious. Defense was not great either. Kudos to Stanford for serving tough and executing their game plan at a high level. Stanford was just able to play a much higher level the whole match. They needed that win and went in to the match mentally ready to push the Gophers to their limit. And they executed it well and the Gophers were not able to respond to the level they needed to, from being tired or coming off a tough win high, whatever it may be.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Sept 11, 2022 9:58:26 GMT -5
Time to clean it up (if you can), Mel and Hugh. I share some of your criticism, but I think you’re placing too much blame on Mel for this match. Bad passing and defense would be higher on my list. I concede that it's possible Minnesota would've lost last night even with better setting. But it's not just this match. The lack of consistently good location and tempo has pervaded every match this year. The gophers are just so stacked on the pins that they make it work. I don't think this team had any business having as close of matches as they did with Oregon and Florida, for example. There are of course multiple factors that go into winning and losing. In my view, the biggest changeable reason the gophers have struggled at times this year, and will continue to struggle majorly, is the setting quality.
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Post by comet on Sept 11, 2022 10:06:18 GMT -5
I share some of your criticism, but I think you’re placing too much blame on Mel for this match. Bad passing and defense would be higher on my list. I concede that it's possible Minnesota would've lost last night even with better setting. But it's not just this match. The lack of consistently good location and tempo has pervaded every match this year. The gophers are just so stacked on the pins that they make it work. I don't think this team had any business having as close of matches as they did with Oregon and Florida, for example. There are of course multiple factors that go into winning and losing. In my view, the biggest changeable reason the gophers have struggled at times this year, and will continue to struggle majorly, is the setting quality. So every match should be a sweep?? We have one of the toughest preconfernece schedules in the country. Get a grip. Mel had a great game against Oregon. Passing was atrocious last night and Stanford was able to capitalize on our weaknesses. If Mir Wucherer or McGhie was a better setter and all around player they would be playing.
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Post by lionsfan on Sept 11, 2022 10:11:20 GMT -5
Yeah, calm down Gopher fans...you already have three excellent wins, and are the team that gave Texas the best fight (in Austin!). Maybe Stanford spent a LOT more time preparing for you than it did Penn State. You'll be fine.
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Sept 11, 2022 10:17:27 GMT -5
I concede that it's possible Minnesota would've lost last night even with better setting. But it's not just this match. The lack of consistently good location and tempo has pervaded every match this year. The gophers are just so stacked on the pins that they make it work. I don't think this team had any business having as close of matches as they did with Oregon and Florida, for example. There are of course multiple factors that go into winning and losing. In my view, the biggest changeable reason the gophers have struggled at times this year, and will continue to struggle majorly, is the setting quality. So every match should be a sweep?? We have one of the toughest preconfernece schedules in the country. Get a grip. Mel had a great game against Oregon. Passing was atrocious last night and Stanford was able to capitalize on our weaknesses. If Mir Wucherer or McGhie was a better setter and all around player they would be playing. I'm in no way suggesting every match should be a sweep. I'm trying to explain that in my view, Shaffmaster's setting quality is the number-one limiting factor for the likelihood of the gopher's success this year. Unless she or the coaching staff fundamentally change something in regard to her execution. I'm not interested in rationalizing away the glaring inefficiencies she demonstrates. Yes, passing is also a problem for Minnesota. It's made into an even larger problem when our second contact does nothing to improve our chances at scoring a point. I expect that Shaffmaster's size and skills in other departments will likely be enough to keep her on the court in six rotations. Were any of the other setters on this team her height, however, I don't know if I'd be saying the same.
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Post by courtwatchers on Sept 11, 2022 11:15:28 GMT -5
I love Shaffmaster's back court digging, blocking and play at the net. Heck she has hit some hellish kills from the right side. The girl can play volleyball. There is no doubt she has "heart" for this sport, but I struggle so much from within trying to watch her become a better setter. This position is the QB of volleyball and adjustments need to be made within any given game.
The question becomes what, if anything, will Hugh do? Because I really have no idea right now if Elise, Chloe or Mir Wu can step up to the challenge, if Hugh does decide to switch setters.
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Post by courtwatchers on Sept 11, 2022 11:29:54 GMT -5
Many of you are bringing up our passing game. I have stated in the past that Hugh's focus is on a 6R game. Other coaches focus on bringing in a strong back court.
Again, as a Gopher Volleyball fan for years, there is a glaring difference in our Libero/DS positions under Hugh than what we saw with Mike Hebert. I for one have questioned the coaching style of Hugh or a member of his staff for these positions since he has become Head Coach. CC and Kilkelly are both very talented players. I just don't get it.
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Post by hammer on Sept 11, 2022 11:46:55 GMT -5
I share some of your criticism, but I think you’re placing too much blame on Mel for this match. Bad passing and defense would be higher on my list. I concede that it's possible Minnesota would've lost last night even with better setting. But it's not just this match. The lack of consistently good location and tempo has pervaded every match this year. The gophers are just so stacked on the pins that they make it work. I don't think this team had any business having as close of matches as they did with Oregon and Florida, for example. There are of course multiple factors that go into winning and losing. In my view, the biggest changeable reason the gophers have struggled at times this year, and will continue to struggle majorly, is the setting quality. I just looked in my sports dictionary and found this: Sleepwalking is a behavior in which a team doesn't get up for a match and walks around semi-dazed doing non-athletic activities. The team usually does not remember getting up or being engaged in these activities. Sleepwalking tends to occur immediately during the first part of a match, usually within minutes of the first whistle starting play. Sleepwalking is likely to continue for about one hour, when the team begins to wake up and show signs of their normal abilities, but relapses frequently occur ultimately leading to a bad loss.
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Post by stanfordvb on Sept 11, 2022 13:07:39 GMT -5
The only players Shaffmaster is deceiving with her choices are her own teammates I-
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 13:40:46 GMT -5
I've tried to keep an open mind on Shaffmaster, and she's made improvements since her freshman year. But I can't help but think that she's the greatest liability for the MN team. She does many things well: serving, blocking(usually), defense. But she doesn't consistently better the ball. She canNOT set a ball above a player's shoulder if it's not passed on top of her own head. She literally has the opposite of soft hands. And she's the starting setter. Compare that with Miner tonight. She almost always puts her hitters (especially outside hitters) in a position where they can take a rip. If the low sets are a coaching choice, then Hugh seems to be asking a player to perform something they've repeatedly demonstrated they cannot do. If Shaffmaster CAN set a hittable ball out of transiion, and the reason she isn't is because she's been coached to do something different, it should've been a pretty easy fix by now. The tempo doesn't work. Minnesota has some of the best hitters in the country and a serviceable back court. They have a B1G player of the year candidate (again) this year in Landfair. And it feels like they'll work really hard to make it to the elite eight if they're lucky. It doesn't seem like it's a lineup issue in regard to the hitters. The only players Shaffmaster is deceiving with her choices are her own teammates, and it's seeming more and more likely that it's not a question of coaching. It's Katie Schau all over again from 2014. You take basically the same team and replace their setter and you go from not making the tournament to the final four. I hope I'm wrong. I totally agree with you on all of this. What would this Gopher team look like? 6R OH Wenaas 6R OH Shaffmaster Opp Landfair with Kilkelly DS MB Gros bringing in great stats/blocking/effective slide MB Husemann much improved on her blocking and can hit a quickset when properly set Libero CC Setter either Mir Wu or Elise Agree that Husemann is improved. Had a very nice match against Oregon.
But did not have a good match last night. Don't remember exactly but feel like she was roof and tooled a lot. Maybe just a bad night, they are human. Maybe trap sets.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2022 13:45:22 GMT -5
So every match should be a sweep?? We have one of the toughest preconfernece schedules in the country. Get a grip. Mel had a great game against Oregon. Passing was atrocious last night and Stanford was able to capitalize on our weaknesses. If Mir Wucherer or McGhie was a better setter and all around player they would be playing. I'm in no way suggesting every match should be a sweep. I'm trying to explain that in my view, Shaffmaster's setting quality is the number-one limiting factor for the likelihood of the gopher's success this year. Unless she or the coaching staff fundamentally change something in regard to her execution. I'm not interested in rationalizing away the glaring inefficiencies she demonstrates. Yes, passing is also a problem for Minnesota. It's made into an even larger problem when our second contact does nothing to improve our chances at scoring a point. I expect that Shaffmaster's size and skills in other departments will likely be enough to keep her on the court in six rotations. Were any of the other setters on this team her height, however, I don't know if I'd be saying the same. Seeing a lot of issues with set height, that different hitters need. Not everyone swings like Landfair. Some are taller, shorter, etc.
Even TV annoucer said it last night, set was way too low.
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Post by letsbeclear on Sept 16, 2022 5:15:27 GMT -5
This might be the most enlightening post I’ve ever seen on a website ever. Or it might not. I was just addressing a previous comment by Madden, in typical fashion, called something the stupidest post he'd ever seen on any website.
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