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Post by ay2013 on Sept 14, 2022 17:09:52 GMT -5
Both Miner AND Orr (being in the same class) were being hyped as the the next great setters in the NCAA that nobody could touch, they were just THAT GOOD... 1 and 2 according to those that put a bunch of stock in the junior usav teams. Now, sure they still have years to improve sure, but it's very clear that, for a variety of reasons, the prognosticators were wrong. And, it's not just about those two, I mean, Batenhorst played high level USAV junior ball and attacked well, and you couldn't kind a bigger OH threat in club than Krause (who also spent a lot of time in the USAV gym at the junior levels)...yet again, for...reasons, neither have been consistent at the NCAA level and both have been passed up by a player who didn't get the USAV love that they did a mere two/three years ago. I say this not to suggest that these players are bad or overrated, only to point out that people on this board continue to gush that pretty much the entire U19 team is going to Nebraska in the future and while that recruiting is certainly exceptional, they aren't the only great players out there and being a good prep fit for what the USAV junior teams want to do doesn't mean that the player will dominate in college. totally agree. but it's a matter of probability. given the opportunity, you'd take the u19 team, wouldn't you. i was looking forward to a lineup of evans, lauenstein, jackson, maesiger and a couple of walk-ons, but jackson ruined it for me. well sure. I mean it's no question that all of these players were exceptional prep athletes with high potential. Whatever happens in the future doesn't change that fact - but I do think that some people (usually Nebraska and Texas fans) put too much stock into who does and doesn't make the USAV junior teams, and the "rankings" of prep players. We end up hearing the same names over and over again which creates potentially unachievable expectations for the players and then people get all bent out of shape when those players don't meet those expectations. |
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Post by widdledumpling on Sept 14, 2022 17:12:15 GMT -5
totally agree. but it's a matter of probability. given the opportunity, you'd take the u19 team, wouldn't you. i was looking forward to a lineup of evans, lauenstein, jackson, maesiger and a couple of walk-ons, but jackson ruined it for me. well sure. I mean it's no question that all of these players were exceptional prep athletes with high potential. Whatever happens in the future doesn't change that fact - but I do think that some people (usually Nebraska and Texas fans) put too much stock into who does and doesn't make the USAV junior teams, and the "rankings" of prep players. We end up hearing the same names over and over again which creates potentially unachievable expectations for the players and then people get all bent out of shape when those players don't meet those expectations. *war flashbacks to ☀️ * |
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Post by vbfamily on Sept 14, 2022 17:25:45 GMT -5
Correct. The serve and block game led to the win. Total points mean nothing. The women’s game has been serve and pass dependent for ages. The mens game is totally serve and block. Maybe Hambly is ahead of the curve on the women’s side. He knows if he can side out at a high percentage the serving errors won’t mean much because he won’t give up long runs. Outside of the end of third the game plan worked to perfection. Stanford’s serve and block was the difference last night. It’s a very different way to play the game. But it was obviously successful. you may be right and coaches will do whatever works to win games but….uuuuuggggnnnn I don’t want it That many service errors isn’t fun to watch. Just ugly and chops up the pace of the game where you watch a ball hit the net or the ground outside the court and then get to watch the ball handlers roll the ball to the other team just to rinse and repeat Per why men's volleyball is not as fun to watch for many (including myself). I really like the crazy power and athleticism of the men's game, but the constant service errors make it much less enjoyable as a spectator. |
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Post by tjm on Sept 14, 2022 18:10:50 GMT -5
im probably late to this but i just watched the postgame interview with cook and he starts it with "we're in school, stanford's not so i dont know what their reason is" for playing ugly volleyball. what happened last season then?
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Post by naujack85 on Sept 14, 2022 18:17:17 GMT -5
Is Nebraskas tip coverage always this bad?
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 14, 2022 18:28:56 GMT -5
you may be right and coaches will do whatever works to win games but….uuuuuggggnnnn I don’t want it That many service errors isn’t fun to watch. Just ugly and chops up the pace of the game where you watch a ball hit the net or the ground outside the court and then get to watch the ball handlers roll the ball to the other team just to rinse and repeat Per why men's volleyball is not as fun to watch for many (including myself). I really like the crazy power and athleticism of the men's game, but the constant service errors make it much less enjoyable as a spectator. 100% agree. high level mens volleyball is so boring. I don't think I could even tell you who the top college teams are or who is on our Olympic team. Even the crazy power and athleticism can just be overwhelming. Often times defensive stops are sheer luck rather than actual skill because they can hit the ball so hard. |
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Post by stanfankev on Sept 14, 2022 21:21:05 GMT -5
im probably late to this but i just watched the postgame interview with cook and he starts it with "we're in school, stanford's not so i dont know what their reason is" for playing ugly volleyball. what happened last season then? Real klassy JC. |
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Post by tjm on Sept 14, 2022 21:28:03 GMT -5
im probably late to this but i just watched the postgame interview with cook and he starts it with "we're in school, stanford's not so i dont know what their reason is" for playing ugly volleyball. what happened last season then? Real klassy JC. and im pretty sure stanford has finals during the final 4 and they still got beat (2018). talk about true scholar athletes |
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Post by Hawk Attack on Sept 14, 2022 22:27:00 GMT -5
and im pretty sure stanford has finals during the final 4 and they still got beat (2018). talk about true scholar athletes I heard they took their art final in the locker room before the match. |
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Post by cbrown1709 on Sept 14, 2022 22:33:30 GMT -5
im probably late to this but i just watched the postgame interview with cook and he starts it with "we're in school, stanford's not so i dont know what their reason is" for playing ugly volleyball. what happened last season then? Why is he such an ass? |
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Post by skullars on Sept 14, 2022 23:36:29 GMT -5
im probably late to this but i just watched the postgame interview with cook and he starts it with "we're in school, stanford's not so i dont know what their reason is" for playing ugly volleyball. what happened last season then? Why is he such an ass? Yeh not often you hear a coach essentially say “our opponent played terrible”. |
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Post by topspin on Sept 14, 2022 23:50:41 GMT -5
I feel like I need to remind this thread that Stanford just beat Nebraska on their home court.
Didn’t even need 5. With their setter having an off night. Touch some grass.
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Post by BigDigEnergy on Sept 15, 2022 8:18:43 GMT -5
Yeh not often you hear a coach essentially say “our opponent played terrible”. If "our opponent played terrible" but still won the match, what does it say about your own team then? This is BS. |
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Post by Reach on Sept 15, 2022 8:40:53 GMT -5
Yeh not often you hear a coach essentially say “our opponent played terrible”. If "our opponent played terrible" but still won the match, what does it say about your own team then? This is BS. Yea Nebraska needs to go back to the drawing table and figure it out. Cook is clearly frustrated and searching for answers... his demeanor this early in the season should be concerning, even by his own stoic interview standards. It's not like losing to Stanford is the end of the world... it's Stanford after all. |
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Post by stevehorn on Sept 15, 2022 8:55:01 GMT -5
im probably late to this but i just watched the postgame interview with cook and he starts it with "we're in school, stanford's not so i dont know what their reason is" for playing ugly volleyball. what happened last season then? Reminds me of Cook's comments several years ago. In 2015 when Nebraska beat Texas in the finals, he gave part of the credit to the tough Big 10 schedule preparing them for the tournament. Then the next year in 2016 when Texas beat Nebraska in the semis, the statement was that the Big 10 schedule wore down the team for the tournament. |
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