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Post by avid 2.0 on Sept 26, 2022 16:08:40 GMT -5
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Post by give me the og-ball-u on Sept 26, 2022 16:30:12 GMT -5
i had to miss this game we’re they any new winzerlations
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Post by junobruno10 on Sept 26, 2022 16:43:05 GMT -5
Wait two days for the next match, then wait another three? A whole mess! I could stand waiting a rest day between matches, but really?
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Post by newbeach on Sept 26, 2022 16:48:40 GMT -5
What’s TC? The reviews on here on her are not mixed. Team Canada.
Winzer trains and coaches under the philosophy that this group has the skills, just not the experience or mental fortitude. That's why her practices and time-outs consist of fairly empty platitudes. She thinks the outsides can just fix everything by hitting high hands.
There's a large component of staff and coaches that disagree; and think we simply don't have the necessary passing ability to compete. Many of the athletes hated Abbondolla but IMO, he was right, they literally just need passing reps until they hate themselves.
For this current group, Mitrovic and Howe are both not the answer. They are too similar of players, and Winzer is banking on both (particularly Howe) of their "potential" to blossom. If Canada wants to progress as a nation we need some success and to affirm to the core girls that there is success to be had here and that they need to stay on the team (Maglio, King, Gray, Murmann). IMO Livingston can fill that passing/defensive OH2 role that Autumn left us.
Edit: to add, I think the girls do like Winzer as a person, and in kind buy-in to her words. Leadership (Cross) really makes it an effort to make sure everyone stays on board. I think this is a double edged sword as it's going to keep Team Canada from progressing. We need some fight-back (in practice, behind closed doors, not for all of Volleytalk to see).
Edit2: VC also specifically hired Winzer because they know she'll be on board, for cheap, for a very long time. As much as we want want the team to do well, stability is also a huge issue with Volleyball Canada right now.
I will agree completely that the team needs a lot of passing reps (whether the players like it or not).  It's interesting that you know why Winzer's "practices and time-outs consist of empty platitudes". I think she is filled with "empty platitudes" because she doesn't know her stuff from a technical standpoint. She does not know how to coach at this level. Some of the retired players didn't like Abbondanza, I think, because the younger players were getting more opportunity and he actually worked and trained the team hard. The younger players like Van Ryk, Maglio, Veltman, and Bailey, liked Abbondanza (or we wouldn't see both Van Ryk and Maglio signing on to play with him this year and Van Ryk for the third time as a pro). I believe there are players who want to practice as hard as possible and learn as much as they can so they can get better. There are players who would love to qualify for the Olympics (which is becoming a longer and longer shot at this point). What is unfortunate is that the louder voices seemed to convince VC to not extend Abbondanza's contract and long-term hired a cheaper, less experienced coach who, perhaps, a few players can have more of a say in how things are run. As a person, Winzer may not be completely disliked by the whole team, but I don't believe she is respected either. I think players are starting to get frustrated and I expect that we will see many players leave the team after next year if the team does not qualify for the Olympics. If VC is smart, they will step in NOW and hire a good coach (like so many of the top teams have done - Serbia, Poland, etc.). They will not be successful with Winzer as a coach and we will continually see an exodus of players. You cannot keep a program relevant if all your top players leave every few years. Winzer really needs to go now. We'll miss her Winzerlations, but that's about it. |
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Post by acea on Sept 26, 2022 17:54:54 GMT -5
She hasn’t gotten a lot of playing time but I’m so glad to see Morgan Hentz happy and playing after her bad season in Germany 🥹. Hoping she doesn’t stick with AU or if she does, the competition levels up. |
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Post by give me the og-ball-u on Sept 26, 2022 18:00:17 GMT -5
Frantti: 14-1-25 (.520), 1 block frantti to karch and the other 30 usa outsides in the pipeline: |
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Post by Reach on Sept 26, 2022 18:43:25 GMT -5
SWP is hanging on to KRob and not letting go until the Olympic roster is announced. |
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Post by Reach on Sept 26, 2022 18:45:16 GMT -5
i had to miss this game we’re they any new winzerlations “Working Class Skills” |
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Post by hammer on Sept 26, 2022 18:49:21 GMT -5
She hasn’t gotten a lot of playing time but I’m so glad to see Morgan Hentz happy and playing after her bad season in Germany 🥹. Hoping she doesn’t stick with AU or if she does, the competition levels up. Gawd, do we miss Hentz @ Stanford. Her defense was everything! |
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Post by give me the og-ball-u on Sept 26, 2022 18:55:57 GMT -5
i had to miss this game we’re they any new winzerlations “Working Class Skills” not shannon winzer-engels... |
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Post by avid 2.0 on Sept 26, 2022 18:59:14 GMT -5
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Post by tamz on Sept 26, 2022 19:17:57 GMT -5
Please post all the golden quotes here. Thanks.
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Post by newbeach on Sept 26, 2022 19:42:57 GMT -5
Why isn't Joseph on this Canada roster? Sorry if this has been stated somewhere. Haven't kept up with Canada's national team recently. She chose not to play with the NT this year. |
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Post by acea on Sept 26, 2022 19:51:05 GMT -5
She hasn’t gotten a lot of playing time but I’m so glad to see Morgan Hentz happy and playing after her bad season in Germany 🥹. Hoping she doesn’t stick with AU or if she does, the competition levels up. Gawd, do we miss Hentz @ Stanford. Her defense was everything! She was so much less disciplined and a shank queen at times but I’d take that a 1000 times over what we have now :/ |
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Post by CAI BIN MUST GO on Sept 26, 2022 20:06:22 GMT -5
i had to miss this game we’re they any new winzerlations “Working Class Skills” you have got to be kidding me |
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