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Post by slxpress on Oct 1, 2022 1:49:42 GMT -5
stanford is also missing Francis, smith is an underwhelming replacement so fair game after that imo Yeah, but it's quite a bit different to go into a match knowing you are down a starter and having a plan for it versus losing a starter in the first set. I don't think that's quite right. It's more like they were down Francis, and then Vicini got hurt in the first set. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 1, 2022 1:58:29 GMT -5
Yeah, but it's quite a bit different to go into a match knowing you are down a starter and having a plan for it versus losing a starter in the first set. I don't think that's quite right. It's more like they were down Francis, and then Vicini got hurt in the first set. Kind of, yeah, except it's not clear if Crenshaw would have been starting over Endsley. They have been going back and forth. But still, it sucked see both of them on the sideline unable to play. |
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Post by slxpress on Oct 1, 2022 2:05:38 GMT -5
I don't think that's quite right. It's more like they were down Francis, and then Vicini got hurt in the first set. Kind of, yeah, except it's not clear if Crenshaw would have been starting over Endsley. They have been going back and forth. But still, it sucked see both of them on the sideline unable to play. Sure. I'd also argue that middle blocker is not as flexible a position as OPP. The point is BOTH of Washington's projected RS hitters went down. That's kinda rough. If the starter - whoever that was - went down and the other player was available it wouldn't have been as big of a deal. But I still think it's fair to mention Francis not being available. Talking about Endsley and Crenshaw without mentioning Francis makes it sound as if Stanford was full strength. And we can quibble about who missed who more, but Stanford without a doubt misses Francis. More ways than one. And in the preseason the big question mark was how would she do as a middle blocker? So it's quite a change from then to now. |
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Post by tnp101 on Oct 1, 2022 2:43:45 GMT -5
Key of Stanford's winning tonight was that they limited they service errors. Giving out freebies without some fight is not good. Stanford did it well tonight.
Defensively they played better. Many balls didn't drop like in the past. We missed Francis in blocking for sure. Offensively, we don't need her when Kipp, Baird, and Rubin could side out well. Baird limited her errors down the stretch was also a key. Rubin was fantastic. That girl reminded me of McClure with more hitting power.
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Post by slxpress on Oct 1, 2022 3:27:52 GMT -5
Key of Stanford's winning tonight was that they limited they service errors. Giving out freebies without some fight is not good. Stanford did it well tonight. Defensively they played better. Many balls didn't drop like in the past. We missed Francis in blocking for sure. Offensively, we don't need her when Kipp, Baird, and Rubin could side out well. Baird limited her errors down the stretch was also a key. Rubin was fantastic. That girl reminded me of McClure with more hitting power. Not that you're wrong, because you're not, but Stanford served very tough. Much tougher than Washington. Part of the reason they're serving tough is that it's been a point of emphasis. Part of the consequence of that emphasis has been a bunch of service errors. Serves that stay in the court but allow the opponent to be in system - especially Washington with Power, Huffman, and other weapons - is a recipe for First Ball Side Outs. Miner, for example, was barely having to move as the Stanford serve receive handled the Washington serves much more easily. I know it gets frustrating to see balls sail past the end line or especially to whack the middle of the net. But there is a huge price to pay for error less serves if they put no pressure on the receiving team. Especially if that team has any appreciable skill in terminating whatsoever. That said, serving aggressively out of the court or into the net isn't helpful, either. But it is a mindset. And you either have that mindset as a team/program or you don't. |
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Post by tnp101 on Oct 1, 2022 3:55:20 GMT -5
Key of Stanford's winning tonight was that they limited they service errors. Giving out freebies without some fight is not good. Stanford did it well tonight. Defensively they played better. Many balls didn't drop like in the past. We missed Francis in blocking for sure. Offensively, we don't need her when Kipp, Baird, and Rubin could side out well. Baird limited her errors down the stretch was also a key. Rubin was fantastic. That girl reminded me of McClure with more hitting power. Not that you're wrong, because you're not, but Stanford served very tough. Much tougher than Washington. Part of the reason they're serving tough is that it's been a point of emphasis. Part of the consequence of that emphasis has been a bunch of service errors. Serves that stay in the court but allow the opponent to be in system - especially Washington with Power, Huffman, and other weapons - is a recipe for First Ball Side Outs. Miner, for example, was barely having to move as the Stanford serve receive handled the Washington serves much more easily. I know it gets frustrating to see balls sail past the end line or especially to whack the middle of the net. But there is a huge price to pay for error less serves if they put no pressure on the receiving team. Especially if that team has any appreciable skill in terminating whatsoever. That said, serving aggressively out of the court or into the net isn't helpful, either. But it is a mindset. And you either have that mindset as a team/program or you don't. Serve tough but in is the key. But serve tough but out isn't good. Need to limit those. Need to serve tough but in, orshort to disrupt the rhythm. |
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Post by tomclen on Oct 1, 2022 5:13:40 GMT -5
The question, unanswered in public so far, is the seriousness of Endsley's injury. Hopefully, it's just a sprain and she'll be back on the court soon.
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Post by tomclen on Oct 1, 2022 5:22:20 GMT -5
 Only in the first set did UW outhit Stanford. After that, without Endsley (and Crenshaw) it was all Cardinal. But you're not going to win a lot of matches when you're outblocked almost 5 to 1. |
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Post by slxpress on Oct 1, 2022 6:21:52 GMT -5
The question, unanswered in public so far, is the seriousness of Endsley's injury. Hopefully, it's just a sprain and she'll be back on the court soon. Even a sprain if serious enough could put her out of commission for a while. And the problem with a lot of sprains, is if they don’t fully heal you run the risk of reinjury. That said, they also don’t require surgery, so I’m with you. I hope it’s an ankle sprain, too. I hated to see her in that much pain regardless of what it was. |
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Post by oldunc on Oct 1, 2022 8:25:10 GMT -5
REALLY glad to see that from Stanford, for various reasons; a resume with a fairly unimpressive win against Florida and wins against Nebraska and a Minnesota team that's not setting the world on fire is good, but not all one could ask for, especially with the Oregon debacle fresh in mind.
I have no proclamation as to the why; what struck me mostly was just that concentration and cooperation were stronger. Things that particularly made me happy (other than Rubin) were vastly improved coverage of hitters- enough to significantly alter percentages, I'd say- and, from Oglivie, strong coverage of short balls in general. Onward and upward.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Oct 1, 2022 9:30:35 GMT -5
Finished watching the replay. After the first I thought oh no here we go again especially after that debacle in Oregon. Washington was really clicking and Summers was just hammering shots and Hoffman was doing Hoffman things. Then Stanford really turned it around. For both these teams the floor defense doesn’t seem like where it has been in the past. Stanford transition so much better. I think Washingtons passing really limited the middle after the first credit to Stanford serving, which was a surprise I think Grote is one of the best middles not only in the PAC but in the country and she was a non factor. It was clear Washington was missing Endsley more than Francis but Francis adds a huge block for Stanford not to say it’s a wash but hopefully for round 2 we see both healthy.
Stanford blocking was huge and wow Rubin had so many of those she really impressed me tonight. She’s clearly a force. Baird continues to be up and down. Miner made timely plays blocking and going over on 2. What I noticed was how quick she is to the ball and I don’t know if I just hadn’t before but she is aggressive she will move or use her hands to get others out the way not necessarily a bad thing. I think people are too hard on Vicini I think she does her job she’s more MB than an MH she does her job well. I called it for a Stanford bounce back they needed this win as a statement no rest though Washington State isn’t exactly a walkover.
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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 1, 2022 10:26:17 GMT -5
No, WSU will likely not be a walkover. Stanford better beware the victory hangover.
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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 1, 2022 10:31:37 GMT -5
The question, unanswered in public so far, is the seriousness of Endsley's injury. Hopefully, it's just a sprain and she'll be back on the court soon. Yes, let's hope it's a simple ankle sprain and Madi gets back on the court soon. But with Crenshaw in street clothes last night, it is clear that now is the time for Audra Wilmes. Cook's comment last night regarding a failure to seize the day was both a pointed reference to Wilmes and to the team's response in general. Cook knows he must get more out of Wilmes and the coaching staff needs to "get to work." Wilmes of course knows that too and so I expect she will experience the most intense period of work and development in her short career in the next few weeks. I personally have faith she will play much better than last night. |
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Post by tomclen on Oct 1, 2022 11:00:39 GMT -5
Don Shaw said during the broadcast last night that Endsley's injury was not caused by moisture on the floor.
He may be right, but I'm not sure how he would know that. Did he ask Endsley or the coaching staff?
I do think the combination of Endsley's injury (and her absence, or course) and the non-stop attempts to dry the floor, threw the Huskies off after that first set. I also think Stanford played better after the first set, and Washington played worse.
So I'm not trying to make excuses, it was a solid win for Stanford.
But I do think if these institutions of higher learning (especially a school like Stanford with a $38-Billion endowment) really care about the health and well-being of their student athletes they would all switch to Taraflex or some other type of floor covering. And they'd spend a few hundred dollars every match to pay some of their own students to dry wet spots, instead of having well-meaning but nervous 13-year old volunteers trying to do it.
Crikey, when I was 13, if I had to run out onto a court in front of 4,000 people and dry a wet spot, I'd pee my pants and someone else would have to clean that up.
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Post by volleybob on Oct 1, 2022 11:05:44 GMT -5
The replay showed Endsley landing on Rubin’s foot, who was way under the net on our side.
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