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Post by hipsterfilth on Nov 23, 2022 0:26:12 GMT -5
Sometimes I think about how Utah came here and absolutely destroyed BYU in the 2nd round in 2019 lmao Honestly was heartbreaking to see Utah drop the 5 setter at Stanford the last weekend after that performance and I don't have any affinity for the Utes. It just felt like a familiarity thing to me. Everything Stanford wanted to do, Utah sniffed it out. I remember being SHOCKED when Utah won the 4th though. |
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Post by volleynerd on Nov 23, 2022 0:28:23 GMT -5
Honestly was heartbreaking to see Utah drop the 5 setter at Stanford the last weekend after that performance and I don't have any affinity for the Utes. It just felt like a familiarity thing to me. Everything Stanford wanted to do, Utah sniffed it out. I remember being SHOCKED when Utah won the 4th though. when and HOW they won it. the 4th set was 25-14 I believe, the Utes gave it everything they could |
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Post by brybast on Nov 23, 2022 0:30:22 GMT -5
But it is an illogical argument to say the best conference should automatically get a top 4 seed. Each team's resume is evaluated individually. This isn't the United Nations Security Council where the Big Ten gets a guaranteed permanent seat. You're misusing illogical again in the exact same way. Just because you vehemently disagree with someone doesn't make their reasoning illogical. How am I misusing it exactly? Are the teams' resumes not evaluated on an individual basis? Just because I vehemently disagree with someone doesn't make their reasoning logical, either. It depends on whether their reasoning is logical or illogical, and in this case it's illogical. |
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Post by tablealgebra on Nov 23, 2022 0:37:18 GMT -5
Great win for the Toreros!
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Post by firedup on Nov 23, 2022 0:41:08 GMT -5
Great win for the Toreros! The Toreros were outstanding tonight. Deserve all accolades and a high seed. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 23, 2022 0:46:54 GMT -5
So San Diego has only one loss all season, to Louisville, IN LOUSIVILLE. There is just no way that they can be overlooked as a top 4 seed, is there? I mean, what else are they supposed to do in order to earn one?
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Post by InfoBot on Nov 23, 2022 0:50:12 GMT -5
So San Diego has only one loss all season, to Louisville, IN LOUSIVILLE. There is just no way that they can be overlooked as a top 4 seed, is there? I mean, what else are they supposed to do in order to earn one? I'm not sure what thread I read it on, but somebody did the math and said the committee doesn't usually move up or down more than 2 spots in the seeding from their RPI. If they move to 7-8 (per trojansc), then 5-6 is the most likely outcome. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 23, 2022 0:51:29 GMT -5
So San Diego has only one loss all season, to Louisville, IN LOUSIVILLE. There is just no way that they can be overlooked as a top 4 seed, is there? I mean, what else are they supposed to do in order to earn one? I'm not sure what thread I read it on, but somebody did the math and said the committee doesn't usually move up or down more than 2 spots in the seeding from their RPI. If they move to 7-8 (per trojansc), then 5-6 is the most likely outcome. Unless you are Penn State and you get a seed despite being #26 in RPI? |
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Post by brybast on Nov 23, 2022 0:52:11 GMT -5
So San Diego has only one loss all season, to Louisville, IN LOUSIVILLE. There is just no way that they can be overlooked as a top 4 seed, is there? I mean, what else are they supposed to do in order to earn one? The answer is that they were supposed to either beat Louisville in Louisville or otherwise manifest an alternate reality in which they play in a different conference. The committee basically made it clear in the 2nd reveal that nothing USD can do will be good enough. They went 2-1 vs. the RPI top 6 with both wins on neutral courts, but they're not in a "power" conference so screw them. |
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Post by trojansc on Nov 23, 2022 0:53:08 GMT -5
So San Diego has only one loss all season, to Louisville, IN LOUSIVILLE. There is just no way that they can be overlooked as a top 4 seed, is there? I mean, what else are they supposed to do in order to earn one? this is better than the resume BYU had in 2018 and they got the 4 seed.. and had a 0-3 loss to LMU on the season finale... What really helped that year was common opponents. BYU's RPI was also ever slightly better at #5. Texas lost a home and home with Stanford, while BYU beat Stanford. (2018) This year, San Diego has the H2H with Pittsburgh and Ohio State. If Wisconsin loses to Ohio State, San Diego wins common opponents with Wisconsin, and has H2H advantage over Ohio State. Technically, San Diego also has comm opponents edge over Nebraska (1-0 is better than 1-1 regarding OSU) |
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Post by volleynerd on Nov 23, 2022 0:53:17 GMT -5
since 2015 the lowest RPI a top4 seed has had was 4
in 2014 Wisconsin had an RPI of 6 and was the 4 seed.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 23, 2022 0:54:50 GMT -5
That Louisville-USD match was strange. Set scores:
25-18
13-25
25-11
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2022 0:56:33 GMT -5
So San Diego has only one loss all season, to Louisville, IN LOUSIVILLE. There is just no way that they can be overlooked as a top 4 seed, is there? I mean, what else are they supposed to do in order to earn one? Yep but their last home match attendance :555 |
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Post by sleepy on Nov 23, 2022 0:56:57 GMT -5
imo the top three teams are texas, louisville, sd. i get that they’re low in rpi but you can’t really fault them for having a weak conference…and they look much better against byu than stanford did against oregon, or nebraska against purdue
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Post by InfoBot on Nov 23, 2022 0:59:06 GMT -5
this is better than the resume BYU had in 2018 and they got the 4 seed.. and had a 0-3 loss to LMU on the season finale... What really helped that year was common opponents. BYU's RPI was also ever slightly better at #5. Texas lost a home and home with Stanford, while BYU beat Stanford. (2018) This year, San Diego has the H2H with Pittsburgh and Ohio State. If Wisconsin loses to Ohio State, San Diego wins common opponents with Wisconsin, and has H2H advantage over Ohio State. Technically, San Diego also has comm opponents edge over Nebraska (1-0 is better than 1-1 regarding OSU) My best guess is that if Wisconsin (@ Nebraska and @ Ohio State) and Stanford (vs Oregon State and vs Cal) win both this weekend, then they will take the 3 and 4 spots (not sure in which order) and San Diego will either be looking at traveling to Madison or to Palo Alto the second weekend. |
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