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Post by exit237a on May 12, 2023 17:32:57 GMT -5
Pretty sure it was just a joke, UCLA already has 4 middles and as I do think Kelley would start I doubt they will end up with 5 middles on their roaster but .... Only 4 middles? SC just snorted milk through its nose.
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Post by uofaGRAD on May 12, 2023 17:42:14 GMT -5
wait, did anyone else see Laura Williams, an Under Armour All American player last year is in the portal? there’s a lot of untapped potential there… she’s a little undersized but I wonder if someone like LMU or even Cal could utilize her better
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Post by jwvolley on May 15, 2023 10:14:51 GMT -5
Last day for athletes to request portal entry.
All in all, obviously a pretty boring second period.
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Post by slxpress on May 15, 2023 11:34:57 GMT -5
Last day for athletes to request portal entry. All in all, obviously a pretty boring second period. I’ve enjoyed boring.
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Post by SayonaraTachikara on May 15, 2023 12:03:46 GMT -5
Last day for athletes to request portal entry. All in all, obviously a pretty boring second period. I’ve enjoyed boring. Coaches have quickly learned. If you jump on the transfer portal merry-go-round, it really tough to get off the merry-go-round. 1 player in = 1 or more out. Rise, wash, repeat.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2023 12:07:53 GMT -5
Will it get less chaotic as the COVID eligibility tails off? Or is it going to remain this way going forward?
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Post by oldnewbie on May 15, 2023 12:22:16 GMT -5
Will it get less chaotic as the COVID eligibility tails off? Or is it going to remain this way going forward? I'd love to see some numbers, but I have to think that it is causing an increase in the number of redshirt years among post-Covid players. That means it will last for at least a few years into the future, but will be more mid-level and late bloomers. The years of wholesale grad transfers (including multiple AA) will quickly end.
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Post by slxpress on May 15, 2023 12:26:48 GMT -5
Coaches have quickly learned. If you jump on the transfer portal merry-go-round, it really tough to get off the merry-go-round. 1 player in = 1 or more out. Rise, wash, repeat. I don’t see it the same way. But I appreciate the perspective. The overall talent level in this year’s portal class wasn’t as high as last year. There are various reasons for that, but dynamics like that are always going to have an ebb and flow to them. It’s too soon to come to any far reaching conclusions as to how anyone in the sport approaches the portal long term, other than it’s going to remain a big factor in roster construction in the sport as a whole from now on. I’m sure there’s been all kinds of lessons learned from last year, but the tremendous success of programs like USD and Texas showed what an outsized impact the portal can have on a team’s success.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 15, 2023 12:31:30 GMT -5
wait, did anyone else see Laura Williams, an Under Armour All American player last year is in the portal? there’s a lot of untapped potential there… she’s a little undersized but I wonder if someone like LMU or even Cal could utilize her better I would say it's a long-shot that someone who couldn't crack the lineup at OSU would help a team like LMU, esp. as a 5-9 OH who didn't play back row. I get the playing decisions were . . . questionable . . . from Barnard last year, but she hit negative when she did get in.
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Post by slxpress on May 15, 2023 12:35:08 GMT -5
Will it get less chaotic as the COVID eligibility tails off? Or is it going to remain this way going forward? Covid created a pig in the python effect of suddenly having an extra year worth of players across the board added to the talent pool without a commensurate addition of scholarships. In economic terms of course that’s going to have an impact in the market. But having a much higher eleasticity in the labor pool will also have a huge long term impact on the sport. If I compare the transfer market in many other college sports such as football, men’s and women’s basketball, baseball and softball, the portal has had a much bigger impact on rosters in this past season than it seems to have had in volleyball. My guess is that we’ll see a sine wave distribution as some years seem more dramatic than others, because that’s how human behavior as an aggregate tends to graph regardless of activity, but that the overall numbers are going to lower as the Covid year players finish their eligibility. On the other hand, the growth in the sport at the high school and club level will add long term pressure on the labor market, so over time we’ll tend to see more activity in the portal - not less - depending on the growth of those participation numbers.
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Post by uofaGRAD on May 15, 2023 13:05:09 GMT -5
wait, did anyone else see Laura Williams, an Under Armour All American player last year is in the portal? there’s a lot of untapped potential there… she’s a little undersized but I wonder if someone like LMU or even Cal could utilize her better I would say it's a long-shot that someone who couldn't crack the lineup at OSU would help a team like LMU, esp. as a 5-9 OH who didn't play back row. I get the playing decisions were . . . questionable . . . from Barnard last year, but she hit negative when she did get in. I’m just putting very, very little stock into last season for her. I think she can be a contributor for a mid-tier team. I think she wanted to be a superstar for them when they actually had a bunch of decent undersized pins with way more experience that he preferred lol. I realized I said Cal thinking of a bad team from cali, but now remember their admissions requirements are really high. Not saying she couldn’t have it, I just know I don’t think I would’ve either LOL. Maybe she can go to one of the other UC schools though, or maybe even Jen Greeney would take her. They’ll have two graduating outsides and Tusa was quite undersized.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 15, 2023 13:15:03 GMT -5
I would say it's a long-shot that someone who couldn't crack the lineup at OSU would help a team like LMU, esp. as a 5-9 OH who didn't play back row. I get the playing decisions were . . . questionable . . . from Barnard last year, but she hit negative when she did get in. I’m just putting very, very little stock into last season for her. I think she can be a contributor for a mid-tier team. I think she wanted to be a superstar for them when they actually had a bunch of decent undersized pins with way more experience that he preferred lol. I realized I said Cal thinking of a bad team from cali, but now remember their admissions requirements are really high. Not saying she couldn’t have it, I just know I don’t think I would’ve either LOL. Maybe she can go to one of the other UC schools though, or maybe even Jen Greeney would take her. They’ll have two graduating outsides and Tusa was quite undersized. Eh, none of the pins could pass, and only one hit over .200. The three she couldn't beat out hit .062, .094, and .158 in the PAC - and that's off a setter as good as anybody's. I just don't put much stock into the UnderArmour All-American Award - it's a high school recognition for performance against high schools, so maybe that's where the disconnect is.
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Post by hipsterfilth on May 15, 2023 13:26:00 GMT -5
I’m just putting very, very little stock into last season for her. I think she can be a contributor for a mid-tier team. I think she wanted to be a superstar for them when they actually had a bunch of decent undersized pins with way more experience that he preferred lol. I realized I said Cal thinking of a bad team from cali, but now remember their admissions requirements are really high. Not saying she couldn’t have it, I just know I don’t think I would’ve either LOL. Maybe she can go to one of the other UC schools though, or maybe even Jen Greeney would take her. They’ll have two graduating outsides and Tusa was quite undersized. Eh, none of the pins could pass, and only one hit over .200. The three she couldn't beat out hit .062, .094, and .158 in the PAC - and that's off a setter as good as anybody's. I just don't put much stock into the UnderArmour All-American Award - it's a high school recognition for performance against high schools, so maybe that's where the disconnect is. I would sometimes turn on OSU matches just to study the chaos -- I don't think we'll see a team so good on second contact yet so, so god awful on 1 and 3 again for a while. Rutgers is right up there the last few years, but Balyko is the common denominator. No idea why she hates winning so much tbh.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 15, 2023 13:35:13 GMT -5
Eh, none of the pins could pass, and only one hit over .200. The three she couldn't beat out hit .062, .094, and .158 in the PAC - and that's off a setter as good as anybody's. I just don't put much stock into the UnderArmour All-American Award - it's a high school recognition for performance against high schools, so maybe that's where the disconnect is. I would sometimes turn on OSU matches just to study the chaos -- I don't think we'll see a team so good on second contact yet so, so god awful on 1 and 3 again for a while. Rutgers is right up there the last few years, but Balyko is the common denominator. No idea why she hates winning so much tbh. She followed the foreign assistant coach who recruited her.
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Post by SayonaraTachikara on May 15, 2023 14:01:25 GMT -5
Coaches have quickly learned. If you jump on the transfer portal merry-go-round, it really tough to get off the merry-go-round. 1 player in = 1 or more out. Rise, wash, repeat. I don’t see it the same way. But I appreciate the perspective. The overall talent level in this year’s portal class wasn’t as high as last year. There are various reasons for that, but dynamics like that are always going to have an ebb and flow to them. It’s too soon to come to any far reaching conclusions as to how anyone in the sport approaches the portal long term, other than it’s going to remain a big factor in roster construction in the sport as a whole from now on. I’m sure there’s been all kinds of lessons learned from last year, but the tremendous success of programs like USD and Texas showed what an outsized impact the portal can have on a team’s success. I respect your opinion as well, but I am talking about the masses of D1, D2,D3 schools, not the anamalies and powerhouses like Texas. For every 15-20 kids that find a home at the top programs, there are hundreds of kids that don't find a home and programs that are left trying to fill gaps. Not saying the the portal is not beneficial. USD and Texas are prime examples. But my point is... did USD fill a gap with another transfer setter this year???
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