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Post by volleyfan on Dec 6, 2022 12:30:02 GMT -5
Yeah. Not sure why our brand new friend is having this level of panic attack about the great migration of NW seniors. I also don’t think general wanderlust is unique to NW seniors who’ve put in 4 years and might just simply want something… different.
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Post by volleyfan on Dec 6, 2022 12:31:56 GMT -5
This is something I didn't think about until I was talking to a grad student thats in the portal. If you have an opportunity to attend a different school and not be in the same place for 6 or 7 years, it could be great to take advantage of that. See some new places and people.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Dec 6, 2022 12:35:55 GMT -5
This is something I didn't think about until I was talking to a grad student thats in the portal. If you have an opportunity to attend a different school and not be in the same place for 6 or 7 years, it could be great to take advantage of that. See some new places and people. Most professional programs encourage if. On the other side of the coin, thank you Asjia for staying at Texas for 6 years! Love you girl!
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Post by jcvball22 on Dec 6, 2022 13:14:41 GMT -5
This is something I didn't think about until I was talking to a grad student thats in the portal. If you have an opportunity to attend a different school and not be in the same place for 6 or 7 years, it could be great to take advantage of that. See some new places and people. Most professional programs encourage if. On the other side of the coin, thank you Asjia for staying at Texas for 6 years! Love you girl! There is always such an existential crisis from posters when senior/grad students go into the portal (and really, even before the portal, just about grad transfers in general). I think, as volleyball fans, we forget that these athletes are in college for more than their sport, ESPECIALLY at places like Northwestern, Duke, Stanford, etc. They are there for life after college. Coaches only have a tangential ability to effect grad program admission, primarily in an advisory role, not in direct ability to help. So, all of the seniors that want to use their COVID year to get graduate degrees (a lot of it paid for!) will need to hedge their bets because admissions is NOT guaranteed. And, as many have pointed out, it is highly encouraged in a large variety of career and professional pathways to NOT do both undergrad and graduate school at the same institution. Exposure to various research styles, internship opportunities, and diversity of course offerings/faculty all play a role in that discussion. This is actually the one thing I think the portal has genuinely helped with: the ability for athletes to have options to transfer for graduate school and receive scholarships. It's an incredibly smart decision for the top student-athletes with an eye on their professional futures.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2022 13:21:57 GMT -5
From experience having athletes being recruited by Ivy's and ND, ND is harder for an athlete to get into for some reason than lets say Princeton or Yale. At least from a volleyball perspective. My understanding is that ND does NOT accept undergrad athlete transfers. Probably an exception to the rule but it's rare they had a junior transfer on the volleyball team this year, but it’s probably few and far between. unless it’s football because they don’t have rules
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Post by lauti on Dec 6, 2022 13:24:27 GMT -5
From experience having athletes being recruited by Ivy's and ND, ND is harder for an athlete to get into for some reason than lets say Princeton or Yale. At least from a volleyball perspective. My understanding is that ND does NOT accept undergrad athlete transfers. Probably an exception to the rule but it's rare ND women’s basketball accepts them - currently they have Dara Mabrey who came from Va Tech a few years ago. Also have a transfer from Oregon.
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Post by volleyplayer2303 on Dec 6, 2022 14:19:33 GMT -5
ND basketball, but do they let olympic athletes? I think basketballs and football get to do whatever they want.
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Post by baytree on Dec 6, 2022 14:56:52 GMT -5
Is Stanford by far the hardest to transfer into? Or are schools like NW just as hard? I’m assuming notre dame is one of the harder ones too? I don't know about the other schools but it's really hard to transfer into Stanford as an undergrad. In 2019, they accepted 1.15% of the 2,352 students who applied. The acceptance rate out of high school is around 3 or 4% so it's a lot tougher to get in as a transfer. The Northwestern site says "Typically, under 15% of transfer applicants are admitted each year." so it sounds like NW is quite a bit easier to transfer into than Stanford.
Some of Stanford's grad programs are easier to get into than undergrad at Stanford, others are even harder. It really depends on which grad degree you want. That's true of any school so you can't just say Stanford is easier or harder to get into as a grad student than Harvard/MIT/Cal Tech/Cal/Northwestern. E.g, if you want an MBA, Northwestern is easier to get into than Stanford (21% acceptance rate, 729 GMAT, 3.7 GPA vs 6% acceptance rate, 737 GMAT, 3.76 GPA) but I'm pretty sure there are other masters programs that are easier to get into at Stanford than Northwestern. E.g., if you want a master's in education, Stanford might be easier to get into than Northwestern.
ETA: The reason Stanford has such low undergrad rates in general is that they don't have enough student or faculty housing and Santa Clara County doesn't want them to build more. They want to accept more students and have been trying to build more housing for decades.
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Post by staticb on Dec 6, 2022 15:02:50 GMT -5
Is Stanford by far the hardest to transfer into? Or are schools like NW just as hard? I’m assuming notre dame is one of the harder ones too? Stanford has one of the lowest acceptance rates (somewhere around 4%) in the entire country. Their graduate school has an even lower acceptance rate than the undergraduate school. I'm not sure on the acceptance rate for NW (grad or undergrad), but I would imagine that it's pretty low along with schools like Vanderbilt, Duke, Rice, UCLA, USC, etc. Actually, I'd say that at most super elite schools, it's way easier to get into graduate school, at least from a selectivity standpoint. It does depend on your program of study, but certain programs have acceptance rates as high as 20%. (Obviously not for medical and law, which are likely harder) Generally speaking there's less people going after graduate degrees and competition is not as high and well-achieved.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 6, 2022 15:05:28 GMT -5
Stanford has one of the lowest acceptance rates (somewhere around 4%) in the entire country. Their graduate school has an even lower acceptance rate than the undergraduate school. I'm not sure on the acceptance rate for NW (grad or undergrad), but I would imagine that it's pretty low along with schools like Vanderbilt, Duke, Rice, UCLA, USC, etc. Actually, I'd say that at most super elite schools, it's way easier to get into graduate school, at least from a selectivity standpoint. It does depend on your program of study, but certain programs have acceptance rates as high as 20%. (Obviously not for medical and law, which are likely harder) Generally speaking there's less people going after graduate degrees and competition is not as high and well-achieved. Also Master's degrees are often just cash cows for schools.
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Post by juancook on Dec 6, 2022 15:10:45 GMT -5
Is Stanford by far the hardest to transfer into? Or are schools like NW just as hard? I’m assuming notre dame is one of the harder ones too? I don't know about the other schools but it's really hard to transfer into Stanford as an undergrad. In 2019, they accepted 1.15% of the 2,352 students who applied. The acceptance rate out of high school is around 3 or 4% so it's a lot tougher to get in as a transfer. The Northwestern site says "Typically, under 15% of transfer applicants are admitted each year." so it sounds like NW is quite a bit easier to transfer into than Stanford.
Some of Stanford's grad programs are easier to get into than undergrad at Stanford, others are even harder. It really depends on which grad degree you want. That's true of any school so you can't just say Stanford is easier or harder to get into as a grad student than Harvard/MIT/Cal Tech/Cal/Northwestern. E.g, if you want an MBA, Northwestern is easier to get into than Stanford (21% acceptance rate, 729 GMAT, 3.7 GPA vs 6% acceptance rate, 737 GMAT, 3.76 GPA) but I'm pretty sure there are other masters programs that are easier to get into at Stanford than Northwestern. E.g., if you want a master's in education, Stanford might be easier to get into than Northwestern.
The numbers I posted earlier are based on undergrad acceptance rates, not graduate. I agree with you though that some grad programs at Stanford are easier to get into than an undergrad. I just wonder what the process is for a volleyball player who wants to transfer for Stanford compared to a Northwestern, etc.. nowadays compared to when I was in graduate school. From my understanding, Stanford is open to allowing more graduate transfer students within their athletic programs, so maybe the volleyball program there will expand its reach in the portal with graduate students? I only know of one graduate transfer (Emily Teehan from Columbia) in recent years to join the Cardinal program. Will there be more in the future? I hope so.
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Post by madden55 on Dec 6, 2022 15:13:23 GMT -5
Becca Morse and Addie Vanderweide in the portal. Both solid players
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Post by juancook on Dec 6, 2022 15:13:35 GMT -5
Stanford has one of the lowest acceptance rates (somewhere around 4%) in the entire country. Their graduate school has an even lower acceptance rate than the undergraduate school. I'm not sure on the acceptance rate for NW (grad or undergrad), but I would imagine that it's pretty low along with schools like Vanderbilt, Duke, Rice, UCLA, USC, etc. Actually, I'd say that at most super elite schools, it's way easier to get into graduate school, at least from a selectivity standpoint. It does depend on your program of study, but certain programs have acceptance rates as high as 20%. (Obviously not for medical and law, which are likely harder) Generally speaking there's less people going after graduate degrees and competition is not as high and well-achieved. My graduate program had an acceptance rate of 2.4%. Undergrad was 4-5%. I agree though, some programs have higher acceptance rates. From my experience, the lower acceptance rate was because of the faculty and what opportunities the program would open up for graduates when it came to a career.
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Post by definitelymaybe on Dec 6, 2022 15:16:35 GMT -5
Becca Morse and Addie Vanderweide in the portal. Both solid players Good luck to Addie as she pursues another school. Seems like a good kid & teammate from watching her with the Hawks.
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Post by baytree on Dec 6, 2022 15:19:13 GMT -5
I don't know about the other schools but it's really hard to transfer into Stanford as an undergrad. In 2019, they accepted 1.15% of the 2,352 students who applied. The acceptance rate out of high school is around 3 or 4% so it's a lot tougher to get in as a transfer. The Northwestern site says "Typically, under 15% of transfer applicants are admitted each year." so it sounds like NW is quite a bit easier to transfer into than Stanford.
Some of Stanford's grad programs are easier to get into than undergrad at Stanford, others are even harder. It really depends on which grad degree you want. That's true of any school so you can't just say Stanford is easier or harder to get into as a grad student than Harvard/MIT/Cal Tech/Cal/Northwestern. E.g, if you want an MBA, Northwestern is easier to get into than Stanford (21% acceptance rate, 729 GMAT, 3.7 GPA vs 6% acceptance rate, 737 GMAT, 3.76 GPA) but I'm pretty sure there are other masters programs that are easier to get into at Stanford than Northwestern. E.g., if you want a master's in education, Stanford might be easier to get into than Northwestern.
The numbers I posted earlier are based on undergrad acceptance rates, not graduate. I agree with you though that some grad programs at Stanford are easier to get into than an undergrad. I just wonder what the process is for a volleyball player who wants to transfer for Stanford compared to a Northwestern, etc.. nowadays compared to when I was in graduate school. From my understanding, Stanford is open to allowing more graduate transfer students within their athletic programs, so maybe the volleyball program there will expand its reach in the portal with graduate students? I only know of one graduate transfer (Emily Teehan from Columbia) in recent years to join the Cardinal program. Will there be more in the future? I hope so. And Madeleine Gates. She was very important to Stanford's 2019 nattie. I know the AD recently said that Stanford would let the FB program have 4 transfers a year. I think that was just undergrad transfers. I hope that will extend to other sports. I hope that wvb puts some effort into attracting grad students. But maybe if Stanford guarantees that Hambly can get one undergrad a season from the portal, he'll start allocating a scholarship for that which could be used on a grad transfer. I don't think they save any schollies for transfers now, which makes attracting them difficult. It would still be difficult bc getting into a grad program isn't automatic (FB loses some players every year bc they didn't get accepted into a grad program) but it would give us a better chance at getting transfer students.
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