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Post by mln59 on Nov 29, 2023 16:01:58 GMT -5
great question, as it’s honestly subjective in the grey areas! in system is considered when the setter specifically has multiple options to set. usually the setter only has to take a few steps to set, if any. out of system is when there’s a bad pass or poorly located dig and the setter only has one option to throw the ball up to OR when a setter gets the first ball and the libero has to set the hitter (no matter how good or bad the dig from the setter is). a lot of times, in system, players will have full approaches that are smooth. out of system is when you see players really have to wait on the set and then have a late last two steps, also called a “step, close” before attacking. if I knew how to record my computer screen, I’d post videos for you. maybe I can find some highlights online to post In system: Good, good, good. Okay, putting it where coach said to put it for the kill
Out of system: Holy sh*t! What the hell! Just get it UP!!!!
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Nov 29, 2023 16:25:52 GMT -5
I'm still kinda new to the sport so still learning the lingo. What does "in system" and "out of system" mean? Also, is there any good resource for learning more of these things past the basics? Thanks! In system: good pass to setter, in a position to run rehearsed plays. Out of system (OOS): broken plays - improvising on whatever works |
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Post by horns1 on Nov 29, 2023 16:26:01 GMT -5
I know Jerritt has stated that he plans to schedule non-conference matches against Baylor in the future. I wonder if he's run that by our A.D. . . .
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Post by hornfanaustin on Nov 29, 2023 16:38:49 GMT -5
I know Jerritt has stated that he plans to schedule non-conference matches against Baylor in the future. I wonder if he's run that by our A.D. . . . He's pretty friendly with McGuyre, so we'll probably play Baylor off and on. It's a short bus ride up to Waco, don't have to spend the night, etc....
But the Texas WBB had/has a blood feud with Tech, between the coaches. They've had to be restrained by their staffs from going after each other. And some assistant coaches refuse to shake hands in the post-game lines. So, no we won't be seeing much of Tech in the future.
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Post by widdledumpling on Nov 29, 2023 16:44:42 GMT -5
Rewatching the NC championship match for the vibes.
Why do we not see the "Texas Jam" any more? I know it was Logan's signature shot (aside from crushing down the line) but one presumes she was coached to do it. Jenna and Madi's tips have a lot less pace.
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Post by tudbud on Nov 29, 2023 16:45:03 GMT -5
Since I posted the first here ya’ll go!!! Good tea in JE and her relationship
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Post by hornfanaustin on Nov 29, 2023 16:49:16 GMT -5
Even football people are getting into it.
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Post by mrworm on Nov 29, 2023 17:06:45 GMT -5
I'm still kinda new to the sport so still learning the lingo. What does "in system" and "out of system" mean? Also, is there any good resource for learning more of these things past the basics? Thanks! great question, as it’s honestly subjective in the grey areas! in system is considered when the setter specifically has multiple options to set. usually the setter only has to take a few steps to set, if any. out of system is when there’s a bad pass or poorly located dig and the setter only has one option to throw the ball up to OR when a setter gets the first ball and the libero has to set the hitter (no matter how good or bad the dig from the setter is). a lot of times, in system, players will have full approaches that are smooth. out of system is when you see players really have to wait on the set and then have a late last two steps, also called a “step, close” before attacking. if I knew how to record my computer screen, I’d post videos for you. maybe I can find some highlights online to post Thanks! That was very helpful! So the chart posted earlier was more a comparison of who does well when things are going to plan vs when things aren't? If so then seems like we need some more Madi clones. Seems like a good plan in general too. 😂 |
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Post by horns1 on Nov 29, 2023 17:08:19 GMT -5
I know Jerritt has stated that he plans to schedule non-conference matches against Baylor in the future. I wonder if he's run that by our A.D. . . . He's pretty friendly with McGuyre, so we'll probably play Baylor off and on. It's a short bus ride up to Waco, don't have to spend the night, etc....
But the Texas WBB had/has a blood feud with Tech, between the coaches. They've had to be restrained by their staffs from going after each other. And some assistant coaches refuse to shake hands in the post-game lines. So, no we won't be seeing much of Tech in the future.
The coaches might be friendly; but, not sure if the administrations are. I recall how House representatives from Tech, TCU, and Baylor (I think) just said such hateful things about our university and to our school President shortly after it was announced we were leaving for the SEC; really not sure what their agenda was, but that "lady" (not gonna use the word I want to use) representing TCU was the absolute worst! |
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Post by uofaGRAD on Nov 29, 2023 17:14:49 GMT -5
Thanks! That was very helpful! So the chart posted earlier was more a comparison of who does well when things are going to plan vs when things aren't? If so then seems like we need some more Madi clones. Seems like a good plan in general too. 😂 pretty much! all of our other hitters struggle with it, which is disheartening after so many years of elite Texas OOS hitters. even out opposites pre-Molly could take out trash with the best of them. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Nov 29, 2023 17:21:07 GMT -5
great question, as it’s honestly subjective in the grey areas! in system is considered when the setter specifically has multiple options to set. usually the setter only has to take a few steps to set, if any. out of system is when there’s a bad pass or poorly located dig and the setter only has one option to throw the ball up to OR when a setter gets the first ball and the libero has to set the hitter (no matter how good or bad the dig from the setter is). a lot of times, in system, players will have full approaches that are smooth. out of system is when you see players really have to wait on the set and then have a late last two steps, also called a “step, close” before attacking. if I knew how to record my computer screen, I’d post videos for you. maybe I can find some highlights online to post Thanks! That was very helpful! So the chart posted earlier was more a comparison of who does well when things are going to plan vs when things aren't? If so then seems like we need some more Madi clones. Seems like a good plan in general too. 😂 I'm pro cloning of Madi. Also Asjia. And Logan. And Fleck. And Emma |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Nov 29, 2023 17:22:47 GMT -5
Rewatching the NC championship match for the vibes. Why do we not see the "Texas Jam" any more? I know it was Logan's signature shot (aside from crushing down the line) but one presumes she was coached to do it. Jenna and Madi's tips have a lot less pace. I've seen a lot more calls on it this season. Along with doubles called on non-setters - even when the set looks just fine, it seems that some refs reflexively whistle when a non-setter handsets |
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Post by slxpress on Nov 29, 2023 17:41:37 GMT -5
I know Jerritt has stated that he plans to schedule non-conference matches against Baylor in the future. I wonder if he's run that by our A.D. . . . He's pretty friendly with McGuyre, so we'll probably play Baylor off and on. It's a short bus ride up to Waco, don't have to spend the night, etc....
But the Texas WBB had/has a blood feud with Tech, between the coaches. They've had to be restrained by their staffs from going after each other. And some assistant coaches refuse to shake hands in the post-game lines. So, no we won't be seeing much of Tech in the future.
Elliott has more carte blanche than other coaches regarding who he can schedule. I don't see why he'd go out of his way to schedule Texas Tech, though. Baylor, TCU, UH, and Rice are all decent bus trips. Lubbock is not that. And Tech is very far away right now from being a good RPI opponent, so I don't see them even getting just a match in Gregory, even if they were willing to forgo a home match themselves. But if it was a benefit to the volleyball program to schedule them, I doubt Del Conte would bat an eye. There was really bad blood with UH after Bleachergate, where Dodds just told everyone in the athletic department we're not playing Houston. And then when A&M left the Big 12 it wasn't quite as onerous, but there wasn't a lot of warm and fuzzies regarding scheduling them, either. I don't see football scheduling anyone in the state for a home and home outside of a couple of exceptions. Maybe ever. I could see possibly maintaining Rice with 2 for 1 deals. But maybe that goes by the wayside, too. That was always done in large part to keep the Houston alums happy. And then there's been talk that TCU might get special consideration because Del Conte still has warm relations with people up there from his time there. I don't know how they'll handle men's basketball. Baylor and UH will both be top 10 type programs as long as they keep their current head coaches. Beard had a GREAT relationship with Sampson, but I don't know how Terry wants to handle things. Anyway, the point is Elliott will always have more leeway than other programs. If he makes a case for scheduling a specific program, then he's pretty much always going to get his way. Why he would do that in the case of Texas Tech I have no idea, though. My guess is he won't. But if David Hunt, Erik Sullivan, or Cursty Le Roux suddenly get the job, maybe that changes his mind. Dunno. |
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Post by slxpress on Nov 29, 2023 17:44:30 GMT -5
Rewatching the NC championship match for the vibes. Why do we not see the "Texas Jam" any more? I know it was Logan's signature shot (aside from crushing down the line) but one presumes she was coached to do it. Jenna and Madi's tips have a lot less pace. I've seen a lot more calls on it this season. Along with doubles called on non-setters - even when the set looks just fine, it seems that some refs reflexively whistle when a non-setter handsets I hate doubles being called on second contact when the ball doesn't go over the net. That's mikegarrison's jihad, but I've climbed right on that bandwagon. How is it giving a team an advantage? What are we penalizing, exactly? Nobody is purposefully trying to put spin on the ball on a set. |
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Nov 29, 2023 17:46:26 GMT -5
I've seen a lot more calls on it this season. Along with doubles called on non-setters - even when the set looks just fine, it seems that some refs reflexively whistle when a non-setter handsets I hate doubles being called on second contact when the ball doesn't go over the net. That's mikegarrison's jihad, but I've climbed right on that bandwagon. How is it giving a team an advantage? What are we penalizing, exactly? Nobody is purposefully trying to put spin on the ball on a set. As a former player with very bad hands, I guarantee you that nobody ever benefitted from my many doubles |
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