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Post by Wiswell on Jan 9, 2023 21:06:59 GMT -5
The lead candidate suggested adding maize shorts to the mix, doubling the number of uniform combinations right out of the gate. Proof it’s not Dildine. She’d have suggested Louboutins. . And proof the Associate coach promo came with more money? But then she started at UW and had a Camaro.
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Post by robtearle on Jan 9, 2023 21:29:45 GMT -5
And what’s the pay scale that goes with that promotion? I think most people think that distinction is a bigger deal than what it really is. she was making around 154k in 2020 before the promotion...i can't find the new salary Two complications to answering "what she makes": In 2020, pretty much all the coaches and highly paid personnel in the UW athletic dept took big-time pay cuts, to offset revenue loss from the effects of COVID; and the VB coaches all got bonuses for winning Big Ten the last four years, and another bonus for the national championship in 2021. So when you find a number quoted like that, is it before or after COVID cut, how much of an increase is pre-COVID level being restored, and does it include that year's bonus.
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Post by katn on Jan 9, 2023 21:36:35 GMT -5
she was making around 154k in 2020 before the promotion...i can't find the new salary Two complications to answering "what she makes": In 2020, pretty much all the coaches and highly paid personnel in the UW athletic dept took big-time pay cuts, to offset revenue loss from the effects of COVID; and the VB coaches all got bonuses for winning Big Ten the last four years, and another bonus for the national championship in 2021. So when you find a number quoted like that, is it before or after COVID cut, how much of an increase is pre-COVID level being restored, and does it include that year's bonus. you're right not sure...i did see she got 47k bonus in '21 for the national championship
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Post by bkedane on Jan 10, 2023 14:29:48 GMT -5
Michigan received interest from at least two top tier coaches who did not even get preliminary interviews. One male one female, both from top programs, both with recent final four appearances as coaches.
This suggests to me that either Michigan was overwhelmed with interest from the best and most successful coaches or decided not to try very hard with the search.
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Post by InfoBot on Jan 10, 2023 14:35:15 GMT -5
Michigan received interest from at least two top tier coaches who did not even get preliminary interviews. One male one female, both from top programs, both with recent final four appearances as coaches. This suggests to me that either Michigan was overwhelmed with interest from the best and most successful coaches or decided not to try very hard with the search. Dildine and Reyes or…?
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Post by gibbyb1 on Jan 10, 2023 14:42:27 GMT -5
Michigan received interest from at least two top tier coaches who did not even get preliminary interviews. One male one female, both from top programs, both with recent final four appearances as coaches. This suggests to me that either Michigan was overwhelmed with interest from the best and most successful coaches or decided not to try very hard with the search. Interest can mean a lot of things.
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Post by bkedane on Jan 10, 2023 16:52:05 GMT -5
One head coach. One assistant coach. By "interest" I mean an expression of interest in the job hoping to discuss the opening with the search committee or search committee chair.
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Post by volleyaudience on Jan 10, 2023 16:56:17 GMT -5
It isn't necessarily horrible if a school knows who they are and does not have "we must win a volleyball national championship" as a goal.
Schools that preliminarily reach out to or have preliminary chats with a DBK level coach do not look good when it leaks out that the candidate had expectations the school would not commit to.
Many coaches would be thrilled to get an expression of interest or an invitation to interview at Michigan with the schools promise that "we will support you". Really good coaches know that if there are 32 sports, your sport better be above the water line so the school says yes more often than no - so get promises up front. Michigan has been around long enough to know they look better minimizing reports that a Hamlin refused to interview or a DBK would said no unless some firmly detailed promises of staffing, staff pay, and support were made, IMO.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jan 10, 2023 17:04:07 GMT -5
And proof the Associate coach promo came with more money? I don't have any proof. But I said this believing that a reclassification works in the Athletic Dept. as it does in university or state government jobs. When they put you into a new classification, your base salary automatically is raised, and your potential for raises along the seniority/experience timeline is also raised. Plus she has years-of-service, so she would probably have not necessarily started at the bottom of the new pay range.
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Post by thevoiceofreason on Jan 10, 2023 17:04:10 GMT -5
It isn't necessarily horrible if a school knows who they are and does not have "we must win a volleyball national championship" as a goal. Schools that preliminarily reach out to or have preliminary chats with a DBK level coach do not look good when it leaks out that the candidate had expectations the school would not commit to. Many coaches would be thrilled to get an expression of interest or an invitation to interview at Michigan with the schools promise that "we will support you". Really good coaches know that if there are 32 sports, your sport better be above the water line so the school says yes more often than no - so get promises up front. Michigan has been around long enough to know they look better minimizing reports that a Hamlin refused to interview or a DBK would not interview unless some firmly detailed promises of staffing, staff pay, and support were made, IMO. The bummer for us UM fans in the (general) area is that there is no coverage of the program outside of the student newspaper. So no one is digging through sources to try and find out where we are at in the process, who could be candidates, etc.
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Post by volleyplayer2303 on Jan 10, 2023 17:07:44 GMT -5
I would assume you mean a final four assistant not a Head Coach? I think DBK only has eyes for one other job. The only one that will pay as much as it takes.
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Post by volleyaudience on Jan 10, 2023 17:11:21 GMT -5
It isn't necessarily horrible if a school knows who they are and does not have "we must win a volleyball national championship" as a goal. Schools that preliminarily reach out to or have preliminary chats with a DBK level coach do not look good when it leaks out that the candidate had expectations the school would not commit to. Many coaches would be thrilled to get an expression of interest or an invitation to interview at Michigan with the schools promise that "we will support you". Really good coaches know that if there are 32 sports, your sport better be above the water line so the school says yes more often than no - so get promises up front. Michigan has been around long enough to know they look better minimizing reports that a Hamlin refused to interview or a DBK would not interview unless some firmly detailed promises of staffing, staff pay, and support were made, IMO. The bummer for us UM fans in the (general) area is that there is no coverage of the program outside of the student newspaper. So no one is digging through sources to try and find out where we are at in the process, who could be candidates, etc. You've identified a serious problem. Low level of local and national press coverage and exposure, I think, is a problem for most of the volleyball teams in the lower half of the Big Ten.
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jan 10, 2023 17:13:10 GMT -5
It isn't necessarily horrible if a school knows who they are and does not have "we must win a volleyball national championship" as a goal. Schools that preliminarily reach out to or have preliminary chats with a DBK level coach do not look good when it leaks out that the candidate had expectations the school would not commit to. Many coaches would be thrilled to get an expression of interest or an invitation to interview at Michigan with the schools promise that "we will support you". Really good coaches know that if there are 32 sports, your sport better be above the water line so the school says yes more often than no - so get promises up front. Michigan has been around long enough to know they look better minimizing reports that a Hamlin refused to interview or a DBK would said no unless some firmly detailed promises of staffing, staff pay, and support were made, IMO. If Michigan is not engaging preliminary interest from a recent Final Four head coach, that is professional negligence. Maybe this is Michigan's moment to catch up to others in the B1G in volleyball - as Minnesota promotes a coach to now coach the coaches, and steals a PAC12 coach; MSU's new coach negotiates playing in a larger venue; Wisconsin promotes two ACs to AHCs; IU, OSU and NU have new/reburbished venues, etc. Keeping my fingers crossed that this new coach will be a "statement hire" for Michigan.
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Post by thevoiceofreason on Jan 10, 2023 23:37:57 GMT -5
The bummer for us UM fans in the (general) area is that there is no coverage of the program outside of the student newspaper. So no one is digging through sources to try and find out where we are at in the process, who could be candidates, etc. You've identified a serious problem. Low level of local and national press coverage and exposure, I think, is a problem for most of the volleyball teams in the lower half of the Big Ten. Unless its a winged helmet or the mbb team it is hard to get any exposure to the Detroit media. WBB gets some, but all they had to do was have a generational talent and a run to the Sweet 16 to make it happen. And even they don't get consistent coverage. The local coverage from M-Live is a joke as they've continued to hack away at their coverage, and the Detroit press isn't making that 40ish mile drive to AA. Current MLive Sports stories about Michigan athletics: 20+ football, 9 MBB, 1 WBB, 1 baseball I know football pays the bills, but the Top 25 WBB team won today and there's nothing about it. So there's DEFINITELY no coverage/update on the volleyball situation.
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Post by InfoBot on Jan 11, 2023 19:00:18 GMT -5
It isn't necessarily horrible if a school knows who they are and does not have "we must win a volleyball national championship" as a goal. Schools that preliminarily reach out to or have preliminary chats with a DBK level coach do not look good when it leaks out that the candidate had expectations the school would not commit to. Many coaches would be thrilled to get an expression of interest or an invitation to interview at Michigan with the schools promise that "we will support you". Really good coaches know that if there are 32 sports, your sport better be above the water line so the school says yes more often than no - so get promises up front. Michigan has been around long enough to know they look better minimizing reports that a Hamlin refused to interview or a DBK would not interview unless some firmly detailed promises of staffing, staff pay, and support were made, IMO. The bummer for us UM fans in the (general) area is that there is no coverage of the program outside of the student newspaper. So no one is digging through sources to try and find out where we are at in the process, who could be candidates, etc. This just popped up on my Instagram explore page. Wouldn't it be fun if schools did this: https://www.instagram.com/p/CnSt9UOpBfo
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