DeSantis inauguration speech

[BearClause]

Apr 4, 2023 23:36:28 GMT -5 mikegarrison said:

Apr 4, 2023 23:08:15 GMT -5 vbman100 said:

It’s a shame there won’t be another election for Governor for a few years.
I would be interested to see how DeSantis would do. We may never know.
But I also don’t know if there are any great Democrats in Florida who could run and do well against him.
Maybe Blake Bortles or Mark Brunell or Dan Marino or something like that.

DeSantis is term-limited. He can't run again in 2026 no matter what happens with the Presidential election.

Florida doesn't have term limits per se, although it's correct that DeSantis can't run again in 2026, but he could theoretically do so in 2030. Florida doesn't allow someone to serve more than two consecutive terms.

No person who has, or but for resignation would have, served as governor or acting governor for more than six years in two consecutive terms shall be elected governor for the succeeding term.

[geddyleeridesagain]

Bob Iger firing multiple shots across the bow of the S.S. Meatball Ron during a recent Disney shareholder meeting:

www.cnbc.com/2023/04/03/ron-desantis-calls-for-probe-into-disney-royal-clause-move.html

[HOLIDAY]

More maturity from the little hissy fit liberal hate Ron DeSantis club.

[BearClause]

Apr 4, 2023 23:51:03 GMT -5 geddyleeridesagain said:

Bob Iger firing multiple shots across the bow of the S.S. Meatball Ron during a recent Disney shareholder meeting:

www.cnbc.com/2023/04/03/ron-desantis-calls-for-probe-into-disney-royal-clause-move.html

I'm wondering why he doesn't just pull out of Florida as much as they can. Unless it's his hope that Disney can outlast DeSantis and his temper tantrums.

[mikegarrison]

Apr 4, 2023 23:59:39 GMT -5 BearClause said:

Apr 4, 2023 23:51:03 GMT -5 geddyleeridesagain said:

Bob Iger firing multiple shots across the bow of the S.S. Meatball Ron during a recent Disney shareholder meeting:

www.cnbc.com/2023/04/03/ron-desantis-calls-for-probe-into-disney-royal-clause-move.html

I'm wondering why he doesn't just pull out of Florida as much as they can. Unless it's his hope that Disney can outlast DeSantis and his temper tantrums.

They have way too much invested in Disneyworld to just up and leave over a minor political kerfluffle. Politics come and go, but corporations can be immortal.

[BearClause]

Apr 5, 2023 0:16:57 GMT -5 mikegarrison said:

Apr 4, 2023 23:59:39 GMT -5 BearClause said:

I'm wondering why he doesn't just pull out of Florida as much as they can. Unless it's his hope that Disney can outlast DeSantis and his temper tantrums.

They have way too much invested in Disneyworld to just up and leave over a minor political kerfluffle. Politics come and go, but corporations can be immortal.

But they could easily just cancel the Lake Nona building project and keep Walt Disney Imagineering headquarters in Glendale and shift all the other stuff to locations outside of Florida. That in and of itself would send one hell of a message.  There's nothing inherent about those functions that requires they be located in Florida.

[mikegarrison]

Apr 5, 2023 0:31:10 GMT -5 BearClause said:

Apr 5, 2023 0:16:57 GMT -5 mikegarrison said:

They have way too much invested in Disneyworld to just up and leave over a minor political kerfluffle. Politics come and go, but corporations can be immortal.

But they could easily just cancel the Lake Nona building project and keep Walt Disney Imagineering headquarters in Glendale and shift all the other stuff to locations outside of Florida. That in and of itself would send one hell of a message.  There's nothing inherent about those functions that requires they be located in Florida.

Well, that is "on hold" already, is it not?

[mervinswerved]

This seems like a very dumb strategy by DeSantis.

[bluepenquin]

Apr 6, 2023 9:02:37 GMT -5 mervinswerved said:

This seems like a very dumb strategy by DeSantis.

Why?  For one thing - is the DeSantis strategy necessarily public (should we assume this is his strategy).

Aside from that - this does make sense.  Haley, Pence and everyone else besides Trump and DeSantis have to make a big splash in Iowa/New Hampshire in order to effectively stay in the race.  And then - they still would have a long shot with infrastructure and support needed in the next round of states that come up very quickly.  DeSantis is trying to build a national brand that can be effective for Super Tuesday's following IA/NH/SC/NV.  And - DeSantis already polls much better in IA/NH than he does across the country.  He will do very well in IA and NH regardless of time spent there.

As for planning out the delegate game - something that Trump isn't all that good at - is exactly how Obama beat Clinton in 2008.  DeSantis should be doing this.  

[mervinswerved]

Apr 6, 2023 11:26:26 GMT -5 bluepenquin said:

Why?  For one thing - is the DeSantis strategy necessarily public (should we assume this is his strategy).

Aside from that - this does make sense.  Haley, Pence and everyone else besides Trump and DeSantis have to make a big splash in Iowa/New Hampshire in order to effectively stay in the race.  And then - they still would have a long shot with infrastructure and support needed in the next round of states that come up very quickly.  DeSantis is trying to build a national brand that can be effective for Super Tuesday's following IA/NH/SC/NV.  And - DeSantis already polls much better in IA/NH than he does across the country.  He will do very well in IA and NH regardless of time spent there.

Usually it's good to win primary elections and talking about how there's a "long term" strategy to beat Trump a year 10 months before Iowa indicates he thinks he's going to lose those early primaries.

As for planning out the delegate game - something that Trump isn't all that good at - is exactly how Obama beat Clinton in 2008.  DeSantis should be doing this.  

Obama won Iowa, Nevada, and South Carolina. Three of the first four. He won early on before fighting Clinton even on Super Tuesday.

[bluepenquin]

Apr 6, 2023 12:28:07 GMT -5 mervinswerved said:

Apr 6, 2023 11:26:26 GMT -5 bluepenquin said:

Why?  For one thing - is the DeSantis strategy necessarily public (should we assume this is his strategy).

Aside from that - this does make sense.  Haley, Pence and everyone else besides Trump and DeSantis have to make a big splash in Iowa/New Hampshire in order to effectively stay in the race.  And then - they still would have a long shot with infrastructure and support needed in the next round of states that come up very quickly.  DeSantis is trying to build a national brand that can be effective for Super Tuesday's following IA/NH/SC/NV.  And - DeSantis already polls much better in IA/NH than he does across the country.  He will do very well in IA and NH regardless of time spent there.

Usually it's good to win primary elections and talking about how there's a "long term" strategy to beat Trump a year 10 months before Iowa indicates he thinks he's going to lose those early primaries.

As for planning out the delegate game - something that Trump isn't all that good at - is exactly how Obama beat Clinton in 2008.  DeSantis should be doing this.  

Obama won Iowa, Nevada, and South Carolina. Three of the first four. He won early on before fighting Clinton even on Super Tuesday.

Trump finished 2nd in Iowa in 2016.  Rubio was just 2K votes below him for 3rd.  Trump got 7 of the 30 delegates.  Trump did win New Hampshire - but still got less than half the delegates.  

Obama used IA/NV/NH/SC to help springboard him into Super Tuesday - I don't think DeSanits needs that.  But what Obama did was recognize the delegate gains that could be made in caucus - and developed an early strategy in winning delegates that helped him win.  Not sure he wins that nomination w/o strategically outdoing Clinton.

[bluepenquin]

To continue on this. There were 24 contests on Super Tuesday in 2008 for the Democrats. In the 7 caucuses- Obama got 141 delegates to 65 for Clinton. In the 17 primaries - Clinton got more delegates 767 to 708.

Clinton got more votes on that election day - Obama got more delegates. He better understood how to maximize delegates which made all the difference in a very tight primary season.

I would suggest DeSantis do the same - if it isn't a close election, it will not matter, but sure the heck mattered in 2008.

[FreeBall]

Isn't the Republican process weighted heavily towards winner-take-all allocation of delegates? Whereas, the Democrats are much heavier on proportional allocation? If so, that makes the comparison to 2008 Clinton v. Obama pretty useless.

[BearClause]

Some are challenging whether or not the book written by Ron DeSantis is appropriate for Florida public schools and asking for a review.

www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-book-banned-florida-public-schools-1792498
Driskell has cited 17 potential violations of HB 1467 in DeSantis' book, including references to "gender ideology" and systemic racism, as well as descriptions of violence, all of which could be reasoning for the book to be reviewed by Florida schools.

Newsweek reached out to Driskell's office via email for comment.

DeSantis' book also includes a summary of the "1619 Project," a journalism project created by Nikole Hannah-Jones that examines the history of slavery in the United States that has been banned in Florida schools.

[mikegarrison]

Apr 6, 2023 15:30:41 GMT -5 BearClause said:

Some are challenging whether or not the book written by Ron DeSantis is appropriate for Florida public schools and asking for a review.

www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-book-banned-florida-public-schools-1792498
Driskell has cited 17 potential violations of HB 1467 in DeSantis' book, including references to "gender ideology" and systemic racism, as well as descriptions of violence, all of which could be reasoning for the book to be reviewed by Florida schools.

Newsweek reached out to Driskell's office via email for comment.

DeSantis' book also includes a summary of the "1619 Project," a journalism project created by Nikole Hannah-Jones that examines the history of slavery in the United States that has been banned in Florida schools.

Eh. If DeSantis is the politician he thinks he is, he'll jump up and say that of course a political book like that is not appropriate for schoolkids. Then defend that law saying it is intended to prevent political indoctrination.