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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 20, 2023 11:45:52 GMT -5
DeSantis chances of winning the nomination is corelated to how quickly the rest of the Republican candidates get out of the race. What does this mean? Are you saying his only shot at the nomination is if nobody challenges him for it? |
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Post by BearClause on Apr 20, 2023 11:55:20 GMT -5
I’m trying to figure out exactly how Ron DeSantis thinks he has a shot right now. He’s clearly lousy at the retail politics needed to campaign for POTUS. Any possibility that he might attract wide ranging support evaporated when he started going into vengeance politics. He’s shown that book tours are more important to him than handling state emergencies. And he’s even turned off his potential donor base. This is all self inflicted.
Unless this is just in hopes of getting a talking heads role with Fox News.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 20, 2023 12:13:12 GMT -5
Unless this is just in hopes of getting a talking heads role with Fox News. No, I'm quite sure this was all part of the plan to becoming President. It's just looking like it wasn't a particularly good plan. |
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Post by donut on Apr 20, 2023 12:22:06 GMT -5
I think RonRon is running in a very difficult lane. He won't take on Trump directly, which looks weak, and if he takes on Trump directly, he'll get pantsed and look weak. His theoretical appeal is to college-educated Republicans, which probably isn't enough to win the nomination. His theoretical appeal is every registered Republican that doesn't want Trump to be the nominee. College educated Republicans, evangelicals, moderates, and any Republican that would prefer not having Biden or the Democrat nominee winning in 2024. Did you think you could just squeeze that in there and no one would notice? |
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Post by mervinswerved on Apr 20, 2023 12:33:14 GMT -5
His theoretical appeal is every registered Republican that doesn't want Trump to be the nominee. College educated Republicans, evangelicals, moderates, and any Republican that would prefer not having Biden or the Democrat nominee winning in 2024. Did you think you could just squeeze that in there and no one would notice? lol, Monmouth poll from March has Trump ahead by 9 with evangelicals. www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_032123_2/ |
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Post by cindra on Apr 20, 2023 14:28:15 GMT -5
I think RonRon is running in a very difficult lane. He won't take on Trump directly, which looks weak, and if he takes on Trump directly, he'll get pantsed and look weak. His theoretical appeal is to college-educated Republicans, which probably isn't enough to win the nomination. DeSantis polls significantly better against Biden than Trump. DeSantis is running. DeSantis raises and will raise more money than Trump. Two of these are possibly untrue and none of them dig him out of a 20 plus point polling hole |
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 20, 2023 16:57:14 GMT -5
DeSantis chances of winning the nomination is corelated to how quickly the rest of the Republican candidates get out of the race. What does this mean? Are you saying his only shot at the nomination is if nobody challenges him for it? I thought this was pretty obvious - but 'the rest of the Republican candidates' referred to the non-Trump candidates. If the race is Trump and DeSantis - then DeSantis chances are much better than if it is Trump vs. DeSantis - and Haley, Scott, Pence, etc... |
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 20, 2023 17:02:44 GMT -5
By the same poll you have cited - DeSantis had a 7 point lead on Trump last month among evangelicals. DeSantis can and probably needs to win a majority of the evangelicals. Not saying he will, but a poll from just one month ago isn't telling us any more or less than a poll today on something that is to take place a long time from now. It would appear that evangelicals are in play for DeSantis to win. And even that latest poll - DeSantis beats Trump among all Republicans when it is just a H2H match. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Apr 20, 2023 17:07:38 GMT -5
DeSantis polls significantly better against Biden than Trump. DeSantis is running. DeSantis raises and will raise more money than Trump. Two of these are possibly untrue and none of them dig him out of a 20 plus point polling hole I think this is technically correct - but I will say a 20+ deficit in a poll in April including a candidate that hasn't declared isn't totally meaningful. Very common for a candidate with this kind of lead to not win a nomination or even some making it to March. Money is very important - and 'electability' has real value. Agree it will take more, but having those things has value. |
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Post by donut on Apr 20, 2023 17:11:45 GMT -5
By the same poll you have cited - DeSantis had a 7 point lead on Trump last month among evangelicals. DeSantis can and probably needs to win a majority of the evangelicals. Not saying he will, but a poll from just one month ago isn't telling us any more or less than a poll today on something that is to take place a long time from now. It would appear that evangelicals are in play for DeSantis to win. And even that latest poll - DeSantis beats Trump among all Republicans when it is just a H2H match.
What?
Regardless, the main point here is that the suggestion evangelicals, as a group, are looking for someone to vote for other than Trump is farcical and unsupported. |
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Post by BearClause on Apr 20, 2023 17:22:40 GMT -5
Two of these are possibly untrue and none of them dig him out of a 20 plus point polling hole I think this is technically correct - but I will say a 20+ deficit in a poll in April including a candidate that hasn't declared isn't totally meaningful. Very common for a candidate with this kind of lead to not win a nomination or even some making it to March. Money is very important - and 'electability' has real value. Agree it will take more, but having those things has value. DeSantis has lost any chance really. He's proven himself to be inadequate and while there were early hints that he might have some support from Dems because of his credentials, he's shown himself to be more about right wing cancel culture than about doing serious things that help the people he's supposed to represent. He's more obsessive about getting even than Trump ever did, which is remarkable. |
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Post by leftcoaster71 on Apr 20, 2023 20:12:48 GMT -5
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Post by volleynerd on Apr 20, 2023 23:07:20 GMT -5
for once kellyanne makes sense
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Post by tomclen on Apr 21, 2023 9:23:19 GMT -5
for once kellyanne makes sense A stopped clock is right twice per day. Kellyanne is simply buttering up the moron so that she can get another cushy job if he returns to the WH. And today we're reminded, by his own book, that Ron Desantis got married at Disney World. Everything is just a show by a wanna-be strongman.  |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Apr 21, 2023 9:53:47 GMT -5
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