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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 26, 2023 17:47:07 GMT -5
"sanctimonious"lol- she trying to take a jab at ron? If she had actually said it in her response, I would have been impressed. One of her people got the bright idea to tack it on afterwards in the tweet. Not as impressed. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 26, 2023 18:27:12 GMT -5
Article II section 1 clause 3. It says it there too, but that has been replaced by the 12th Amendment. That was describing the original "the person who gets the second-most votes is VP" plan. The 12th changed things so instead of voting for two people for President, electors now vote for a President and VP. But they kept the "not both from your own state" thing. Florida electors could still vote for either Trump or DeSantis if they were on the same ticket, but that would risk one of them getting a majority and the other one not getting one (which would then throw that respective election to Congress). |
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Post by Gladys Kravitz on Apr 26, 2023 22:13:09 GMT -5
Article II section 1 clause 3. It says it there too, but that has been replaced by the 12th Amendment. That was describing the original "the person who gets the second-most votes is VP" plan. The 12th changed things so instead of voting for two people for President, electors now vote for a President and VP. But they kept the "not both from your own state" thing. Florida electors could still vote for either Trump or DeSantis if they were on the same ticket, but that would risk one of them getting a majority and the other one not getting one (which would then throw that respective election to Congress). So.............you are saying that Desantis will not team up with Trump because of this complication? I am confused. Can it be done? |
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Post by mervinswerved on Apr 26, 2023 22:17:38 GMT -5
It says it there too, but that has been replaced by the 12th Amendment. That was describing the original "the person who gets the second-most votes is VP" plan. The 12th changed things so instead of voting for two people for President, electors now vote for a President and VP. But they kept the "not both from your own state" thing. Florida electors could still vote for either Trump or DeSantis if they were on the same ticket, but that would risk one of them getting a majority and the other one not getting one (which would then throw that respective election to Congress). So.............you are saying that Desantis will not team up with Trump because of this complication? I am confused. Can it be done? One of them would need to become a resident of a different state. |
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Post by volleyguy on Apr 26, 2023 22:29:02 GMT -5
It says it there too, but that has been replaced by the 12th Amendment. That was describing the original "the person who gets the second-most votes is VP" plan. The 12th changed things so instead of voting for two people for President, electors now vote for a President and VP. But they kept the "not both from your own state" thing. Florida electors could still vote for either Trump or DeSantis if they were on the same ticket, but that would risk one of them getting a majority and the other one not getting one (which would then throw that respective election to Congress). So.............you are saying that Desantis will not team up with Trump because of this complication? I am confused. Can it be done? Yes, it can be done. But they would need to win the election by a margin of electoral votes greater than the number of electors in their state (in this case Florida, with 29 electoral votes.) They need to win by a margin of 30 in the rest of the country. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 27, 2023 19:08:12 GMT -5
DeSantis says the Disney lawsuit is "political". Which makes me wonder, is there anything DeSantis has done with respect to Disney in the last year that *isn't* "political"?
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 27, 2023 19:19:09 GMT -5
So.............you are saying that Desantis will not team up with Trump because of this complication? I am confused. Can it be done? One of them would need to become a resident of a different state. New Jersey, perhaps? Trump isn't allowed to live at Mar-a-Lago anyway. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Apr 29, 2023 19:48:15 GMT -5
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 29, 2023 20:21:59 GMT -5
LOL, although if I were on the jury I would be calling that fair use as parody.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 29, 2023 23:34:35 GMT -5
LOL, although if I were on the jury I would be calling that fair use as parody. Yeah, but then they would check DeSantis for a sense of humor, and when they find no evidence of one, Disney wins a default judgement. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 29, 2023 23:39:23 GMT -5
DeSantis is going to do great with the national press. He is so easy to piss off and turn into a bobble-head.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 29, 2023 23:56:46 GMT -5
I would think that if I were tortured, I would probably remember the person who did it, even if he was a junior officer.
edit: OK, I see that the former detainee's claim is that DeSantis was present as an observer, not that he actually did the force-feeding himself.
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 30, 2023 1:35:31 GMT -5
I would think that if I were tortured, I would probably remember the person who did it, even if he was a junior officer. edit: OK, I see that the former detainee's claim is that DeSantis was present as an observer, not that he actually did the force-feeding himself. I have no idea what his role was and whether there is anything at all there, but it sure does get him upset in a big hurry to be asked about it. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 30, 2023 3:11:16 GMT -5
I would think that if I were tortured, I would probably remember the person who did it, even if he was a junior officer. edit: OK, I see that the former detainee's claim is that DeSantis was present as an observer, not that he actually did the force-feeding himself. I have no idea what his role was and whether there is anything at all there, but it sure does get him upset in a big hurry to be asked about it. Well, if someone accuse me of torturing people, that probably would get me upset in a big hurry too. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Apr 30, 2023 8:33:06 GMT -5
I have no idea what his role was and whether there is anything at all there, but it sure does get him upset in a big hurry to be asked about it. Well, if someone accuse me of torturing people, that probably would get me upset in a big hurry too. The fundamental difference is that you, to public knowledge, have not been to Guantanamo to advise on what is legal to do to prisoners. You also aren't on a world tour pretending not to be running for president, where you would expect to be asked about it and should have an innocuos explanation at the ready. Getting mad at a reporter and angrily saying that you were younger so how could they recognize you, does not cut it. |
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