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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 14, 2023 1:01:15 GMT -5
DeSantis would be a nightmare for our country in many ways, and I really hope he doesn't become our next president. DeSantis has made it very clear that he believes he should be a dictator. He certainly runs Florida as if he is -- using the power of the governors office to replace local elected officials that he politically disagrees with, to attack companies that he politically disagrees with, to spend state money on PR stunts to further his own political concerns, to personally attempt to control what is taught in public schools, etc. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Mar 14, 2023 2:03:16 GMT -5
DeSantis would be a nightmare for our country in many ways, and I really hope he doesn't become our next president. DeSantis has made it very clear that he believes he should be a dictator. He certainly runs Florida as if he is -- using the power of the governors office to replace local elected officials that he politically disagrees with, to attack companies that he politically disagrees with, to spend state money on PR stunts to further his own political concerns, to personally attempt to control what is taught in public schools, etc. He also raised an army that says "Florida" on their uniforms, not The United States, and they are beholden to him (The Governor) not the president, and they wear a patch from the first Florida state flag that people found so offensive it was immediately changed and is thought never to have actually flown over the capitol. The motto is "Let us alone", which other states found odd and offensive for a state joining the union. Quite a freedom loving guy.  Florida's first flag  |
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 14, 2023 3:13:18 GMT -5
It's really something that DeSantis has apparently wholeheartedly adopted a motto that was popular in the slave states before the Civil War.
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Post by akbar on Mar 14, 2023 7:06:15 GMT -5
It's really something that DeSantis has apparently wholeheartedly adopted a motto that was popular in the slave states before the Civil War. He is a fraud. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Mar 14, 2023 7:16:50 GMT -5
Predictable that the left is going to attack DeSantis. He is by far the best hope for the Republican party, so he needs to be attacked early.
The Republican party doesn't have another viable candidate for 2024.
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Post by 🌽🍞 on Mar 14, 2023 7:28:02 GMT -5
Predictable that the left is going to attack DeSantis. He is by far the best hope for the Republican party, so he needs to be attacked early. The Republican party doesn't have another viable candidate for 2024. Or because he is a terrible person and a dictator. You are bad at this, you should just go away |
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Post by mikegarrison on Mar 14, 2023 7:37:09 GMT -5
It's predictable that "libertarian" bluepenquin defends DeSantis, a guy who keeps interjecting the government into private decisions like abortion and corporate policies on how businesses interact with their employees and customers. And also a guy who has tried to centralize into his own hands as much power as he can take from local governments. Not to mention interjecting the governor's office into schools from kindergarten to graduate programs. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Mar 14, 2023 7:53:41 GMT -5
Predictable that the left is going to attack DeSantis. He is by far the best hope for the Republican party, so he needs to be attacked early. The Republican party doesn't have another viable candidate for 2024. Yes, it is predictable that one side would attack its political enemies on the other side. |
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Mar 14, 2023 8:02:42 GMT -5
DeSantis will say whatever is convenient in order to create contrast with the Dems.
"In 2014 and 2015, when Putin was in the initial stage of his invasion of Ukraine by annexing Crimea, DeSantis sounded like a conventional Republican hawk. He attacked then-President Barack Obama for not doing enough — just as many Republicans are today criticizing Biden."
And now: "Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida has sharply broken with Republicans who are determined to defend Ukraine against Russia’s invasion, saying in a statement made public Monday night that protecting the European nation’s borders is not a vital U.S. interest and that policymakers should instead focus attention at home."
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Post by oldnewbie on Mar 14, 2023 9:23:19 GMT -5
Predictable that the left is going to attack DeSantis. He is by far the best hope for the Republican party, so he needs to be attacked early. The Republican party doesn't have another viable candidate for 2024. He sent teams of armed law enforcement to physically arrest people that the Florida registrar of voters said could vote. Those arrests are now being thrown out as they come before judges, but they had the chilling effect of intimidating a class of eligible voters he doesn't want to vote while throwing raw meat to his base. Literally going back to Jim Crow and you are eating it up. It's frightening. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Mar 14, 2023 9:43:18 GMT -5
Predictable that the left is going to attack DeSantis. He is by far the best hope for the Republican party, so he needs to be attacked early. The Republican party doesn't have another viable candidate for 2024. How about a little honesty and admit that early front runners on both sides get attacked and it has little to do with left-right. DeSantis' biggest critic right now is Trump. You conveniently ignore that. There are calls from the left and in the press for Biden to step aside. You ignore that as well. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Mar 14, 2023 9:44:35 GMT -5
Predictable that the left is going to attack DeSantis. He is by far the best hope for the Republican party, so he needs to be attacked early. The Republican party doesn't have another viable candidate for 2024. Sure. And Trump was going after Biden two years before Joe even announced. Politics. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by bluepenquin on Mar 14, 2023 10:02:30 GMT -5
Predictable that the left is going to attack DeSantis. He is by far the best hope for the Republican party, so he needs to be attacked early. The Republican party doesn't have another viable candidate for 2024. How about a little honesty and admit that early front runners on both sides get attacked and it has little to do with left-right. DeSantis' biggest critic right now is Trump. You conveniently ignore that. There are calls from the left and in the press for Biden to step aside. You ignore that as well. Did I say it was wrong to attack DeSantis? Did I say this was unusual? I just said it is happening and that it is/was predictable. The left isn't 'attacking Tim Scott, Pence, Haley, etc... - they are attacking DeSantis. This isn't because DeSantis is 'bad' - or worse than the other's - it is because he is the major threat to a Democrat being President. Trump is attacking DeSantis for the same reason - DeSantis is the ONLY threat to Trump being the Republican nominee. He isn't attacking the others - he needs them to help beat DeSantis. Again - this is predictable. |
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Post by oldnewbie on Mar 14, 2023 10:10:28 GMT -5
How about a little honesty and admit that early front runners on both sides get attacked and it has little to do with left-right. DeSantis' biggest critic right now is Trump. You conveniently ignore that. There are calls from the left and in the press for Biden to step aside. You ignore that as well. Did I say it was wrong to attack DeSantis? Did I say this was unusual? I just said it is happening and that it is/was predictable. The left isn't 'attacking Tim Scott, Pence, Haley, etc... - they are attacking DeSantis. This isn't because DeSantis is 'bad' - or worse than the other's - it is because he is the major threat to a Democrat being President. Trump is attacking DeSantis for the same reason - DeSantis is the ONLY threat to Trump being the Republican nominee. He isn't attacking the others - he needs them to help beat DeSantis. Again - this is predictable. You said the left was attacking him, leaving out that the right was attacking him and that the press always attacks the leaders on both sides, regardless of left right. Yes, the way you said it and the fact you said it at all strongly implied you thought it was unusual. DeSantis is, in fact, NOT the only threat to Trump, he is just the biggest current threat to Trump. It is a long race, and they usually don't turn out like you think they will. Trump was not the early front-runner for 2016. Clinton was not the front-runner for 92. It is more likely than not DeSantis will NOT be the nominee, but he is working hard to out-Trump Trump at the moment. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Mar 14, 2023 10:12:00 GMT -5
It's predictable that "libertarian" bluepenquin defends DeSantis, a guy who keeps interjecting the government into private decisions like abortion and corporate policies on how businesses interact with their employees and customers. And also a guy who has tried to centralize into his own hands as much power as he can take from local governments. Not to mention interjecting the governor's office into schools from kindergarten to graduate programs. It is the state's right and obligation to 'interject' into public schools. If you don't think a State has this right - then get rid of public (Government) schools. Failure to recognize that an unborn human could have rights is just being plain dishonest on the issue of abortion (just as dismissing the women's right to control her how body for those on the other side). To say that a government has no role in abortion and the life of the unborn - is the same as saying the government has no role in murder, assault, etc... Roe was the Government inserting their will on individual rights. There is no neutral action that could be done here. DeSantis continues to get hit with lies and 'hit' pieces from the media. This isn't unusual - every legit Presidential candidate is going to face this. People are going to choose to believe what they want to. |
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