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Post by vbtalk on May 15, 2023 9:34:56 GMT -5
Miami Hype gets the second and final at large bid. I know they have been discussed a few times on this thread but I really don’t know much about them. Anyone know their record against the field?
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Post by notfromaroundhere on May 15, 2023 9:45:09 GMT -5
Miami Hype gets the second and final at large bid. I know they have been discussed a few times on this thread but I really don’t know much about them. Anyone know their record against the field? They jumped on the scene with a win against Dynasty at TCNIT. Wins against Metro, OT T and not much else. They are well coached and when they are on, pretty good.
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Post by SayonaraTachikara on May 15, 2023 9:47:55 GMT -5
Miami Hype gets the second and final at large bid. I know they have been discussed a few times on this thread but I really don’t know much about them. Anyone know their record against the field? They jumped on the scene with a win against Dynasty at TCNIT. Wins against Metro, OT T and not much else. They are well coached and when they are on, pretty good. They have been on the scene for quite a while and will do really well at nationals. Very explosive and well coached team.
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Post by westie13 on May 15, 2023 10:47:52 GMT -5
That’s a massive slap in the face to Sting unless Sting was one of the teams to turn the bid down and I cannot imagine they would have. Sting beat Hype in 2 this year. Feel bad for my friends over at Sting. Y’all 100% deserved to be in Open especially since it’s probably the last club season for some of those kids. I’ll be cheering y’all on in the national division.
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Post by SayonaraTachikara on May 15, 2023 12:07:25 GMT -5
That’s a massive slap in the face to Sting unless Sting was one of the teams to turn the bid down and I cannot imagine they would have. Sting beat Hype in 2 this year. Feel bad for my friends over at Sting. Y’all 100% deserved to be in Open especially since it’s probably the last club season for some of those kids. I’ll be cheering y’all on in the national division. I actually agree here. Both are amazing teams, I would be shocked if Sting did not get the offer first, and then declined. Either way, both have had amazing seasons.
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Post by volleydada4 on May 15, 2023 13:50:58 GMT -5
If Sting is already going to be at Nationals playing in the National division, then they have no financial reason to turn the open bid down. So why are people still saying that’s a possibility?
They may have wanted to play against slightly lower competition for a better chance to “Win it all” (Really hope that’s not the case) but If that IS the case then why be up at arms that they got passed over? They didn’t. They chose to play down in that scenario. I don’t get the outrage?
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Post by vbavclub on May 15, 2023 14:19:16 GMT -5
If Sting is already going to be at Nationals playing in the National division, then they have no financial reason to turn the open bid down. So why are people still saying that’s a possibility? They may have wanted to play against slightly lower competition for a better chance to “Win it all” (Really hope that’s not the case) but If that IS the case then why be up at arms that they got passed over? They didn’t. They chose to play down in that scenario. I don’t get the outrage? As far as I am aware, you are not allowed to decline an Open bid to play National instead. It is in the USAV rules. I haven't heard from anyone on the record saying their team or any team in particular turned down an Open bid. It also doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can see teams turning down National bids, USA bids, or American bids, but At-Large Open bids have to be applied for by the club, after the end of the qualifier schedule. I don't know why a team would apply for that and then less than two weeks later decide they don't want the bid. Especially since all of these teams have travelled to multiple USAV qualifiers trying to get that bid in the first place.
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Post by westie13 on May 15, 2023 14:39:50 GMT -5
You can decline an at large open bid. I have personal knowledge of at least two teams that did that this past week because they were already set to attend AAU when they didn’t qualify for USAV. And I suspect a third declined for other reasons. However, Sting is not one that I have any direct knowledge of. Though everything I know about that team tells me they would have 100% accepted the open bid and would have never turned it down.
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Post by dogmomx3 on May 15, 2023 14:45:39 GMT -5
If Sting is already going to be at Nationals playing in the National division, then they have no financial reason to turn the open bid down. So why are people still saying that’s a possibility? They may have wanted to play against slightly lower competition for a better chance to “Win it all” (Really hope that’s not the case) but If that IS the case then why be up at arms that they got passed over? They didn’t. They chose to play down in that scenario. I don’t get the outrage? As far as I am aware, you are not allowed to decline an Open bid to play National instead. It is in the USAV rules. I haven't heard from anyone on the record saying their team or any team in particular turned down an Open bid. It also doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can see teams turning down National bids, USA bids, or American bids, but At-Large Open bids have to be applied for by the club, after the end of the qualifier schedule. I don't know why a team would apply for that and then less than two weeks later decide they don't want the bid. Especially since all of these teams have travelled to multiple USAV qualifiers trying to get that bid in the first place. MKE Sting did not turn down an open bid. MKE Sting was passed over for an open bid for some unknown reason. MKE Sting would never pass up an open bid, as that is always the goal of the program to always compete at the highest level possible. MKE Sting has competed in multiple qualifiers this season in the open division. They have developed immensely over the course of the season and have demonstrated their ability to compete at the very highest level. Didn't they recently beat the #1 seed, Dynasty? Yup, that really happened among several open bid teams. Went 7-1 at by far the strongest qualifier of the season. They recently beat Miami Hype in two. Not meaning any shade against Miami Hyper either. Just saying... They did not turn down an open at large bid in order to win the national division. Nope, that's not the goal of MKE Sting. Their goal was to qualify open and compete against the best, where they most certainly belong. They have not put the time and effort into this season to go win a "national" division. For some god forsaken reason, the committee did not feel they should be awarded an open bid which absolutely makes zero sense but that's the way it is. Time to move on and make the best of it; however, unfair it seems.
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Post by c4ndlelight on May 15, 2023 15:05:57 GMT -5
Whenever I don't understand a USAV decision I assume it's about politics and spreading bids out among regions.
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Post by nakedcrayon on May 15, 2023 15:14:11 GMT -5
As far as I am aware, you are not allowed to decline an Open bid to play National instead. It is in the USAV rules. I haven't heard from anyone on the record saying their team or any team in particular turned down an Open bid. It also doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I can see teams turning down National bids, USA bids, or American bids, but At-Large Open bids have to be applied for by the club, after the end of the qualifier schedule. I don't know why a team would apply for that and then less than two weeks later decide they don't want the bid. Especially since all of these teams have travelled to multiple USAV qualifiers trying to get that bid in the first place. MKE Sting did not turn down an open bid. MKE Sting was passed over for an open bid for some unknown reason. MKE Sting would never pass up an open bid, as that is always the goal of the program to always compete at the highest level possible. MKE Sting has competed in multiple qualifiers this season in the open division. They have developed immensely over the course of the season and have demonstrated their ability to compete at the very highest level. Didn't they recently beat the #1 seed, Dynasty? Yup, that really happened among several open bid teams. Went 7-1 at by far the strongest qualifier of the season- yup, that really happened too. Did they recently beat Miami Hype in two? Yup, that happened as well. They did not turn down an open at large bid in order to win the national division. Nope, that's not the goal of MKE Sting. Their goal was to qualify open and compete against the best, where they most certainly belong. They have not put the time and effort into this season to go win a "national" division. For some god forsaken reason, the committee did not feel they should be awarded an open bid which absolutely makes zero sense but that's they way it is. Time to move on and make the best of it; however, unfair it seems. Their record over the last two months qualifies them the season as a whole does not indicate they were a shoe in or it was unfair to be passed over
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Post by dogmomx3 on May 15, 2023 15:42:13 GMT -5
MKE Sting did not turn down an open bid. MKE Sting was passed over for an open bid for some unknown reason. MKE Sting would never pass up an open bid, as that is always the goal of the program to always compete at the highest level possible. MKE Sting has competed in multiple qualifiers this season in the open division. They have developed immensely over the course of the season and have demonstrated their ability to compete at the very highest level. Didn't they recently beat the #1 seed, Dynasty? Yup, that really happened among several open bid teams. Went 7-1 at by far the strongest qualifier of the season- yup, that really happened too. Did they recently beat Miami Hype in two? Yup, that happened as well. They did not turn down an open at large bid in order to win the national division. Nope, that's not the goal of MKE Sting. Their goal was to qualify open and compete against the best, where they most certainly belong. For some god forsaken reason, the committee did not feel they should be awarded an open bid which absolutely makes zero sense but that's they way it is. Time to move on and make the best of it; however, unfair it seems. Their record over the last two months qualifies them the season as a whole does not indicate they were a shoe in or it was unfair to be passed over Yeah, I hear what you're saying, I really do. We teach the kids about the process, the importance of development, having a growth mindset, it's not how you start but how you finish, etc. and this is why this process frustrates me.
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Post by digs on May 15, 2023 16:34:53 GMT -5
For what it’s worth, I thought MKE Sting should’ve received an at-large bid as well. They’re a super talented group and have played some very good volleyball down the stretch. That said, if you don’t “earn” your bid the old fashioned way, you’re at the mercy of subjective opinions, politics, and simple human error. So it’s tough to complain if the painful truth is that you just didn’t get the job done at the qualifiers.
And not to get all philosophical here, but these young athletes learn WAY more about life on their athletic journeys than they do about sports. Learning to handle, overcome, and/or accept unfair situations, difficult coaches, challenging teammates, painful losses, etc. gives them a BIG leg up in life over NARPs (“non athletic regular people”) and will help them better navigate this messy world for life. So there’s always a silver lining. 😎
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Post by nakedcrayon on May 15, 2023 17:46:32 GMT -5
I watched them twice at Lone Star, they would be my selection as well
the only issue is that all matches including Dec-Feb count and that is where the results werent open level claiber
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Post by dogmomx3 on May 28, 2023 20:58:16 GMT -5
Hanging at the Prep Dig Gauntlet in Milwaukee this Memorial Day weekend. It's been a great tournament, lots of solid competition! Tomorrow in the gold bracket you will find Northern Lights 17-1's -vs- 1st Alliance 17-Silver and then Milwaukee Sting 17-Gold -vs- 1st Alliance 17-Gold. All teams have one loss on the weekend, with the exception of 1st Alliance 17-Gold who is looking super strong and dominating. NL 17-1's walked away with a win against Sting in a close 3 set match. Sting is playing without their setter who is out with a knee injury and recently had surgery; therefore, Lilly Wagner has joined the team for the remainder of the season. Sting is playing without Melia Johnson this weekend. Looking forward to watching a rematch from earlier this season when 1st Alliance walked away with the W.
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