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Post by stanfordvb on Feb 10, 2023 4:45:03 GMT -5
I'm not quite sure where I'd place Pitt yet, but IMO it's not about the setting for either team (both Podraza AND Fairbanks are nothing "special"). Pitt is losing half of its offense from the team that made the final four - who is going to take those swings next year and what have they shown at the collegiate level that says it's at the level that Pitt had last year? Fairbanks is definitely something special. Girl can push middle 10 feet off the net, i don’t see any other setter consistently doing that other Oklahoma’s setter chamberlain. And i don’t think half of y’all realize pitts offense last year wasn’t great outside of buzzario and their middles. Their pins are immediate upgrades even though they’re young. & ik im late lol so you think Stafford and bayless will be the two starting OHs in 2023? they're good but they've never played a college match before, personally I dont think vvg will be going to the bench and a hopefully healthy, much more experienced dalton I think has a fair shot against the typical top freshman recruit, in some cases there are freshman studs like collier and Hudson but thats not the case usually idk the name of that oppo recruit they have but I think she has the best chance of playing of those freshman pins. I only see one of either Stafford or bayless playing tho, and assuming the freshman oppo is gonna be a decent step down from buzzerio, idk if its a pin upgrade for them. made depth wise, but in terms of the starting 4? idk
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Post by GoGophs on Feb 10, 2023 6:37:03 GMT -5
A few posts with Baylor in the top 10. In all honesty, I’m not convinced yet that they’ll even be a top 15 team at the beginning of the season. The situation in the middle makes me really nervous. Very unproven. What do you think Baylors lineup will look like as of right now?
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Post by houstonbear15 on Feb 10, 2023 9:19:30 GMT -5
A few posts with Baylor in the top 10. In all honesty, I’m not convinced yet that they’ll even be a top 15 team at the beginning of the season. The situation in the middle makes me really nervous. Very unproven. What do you think Baylors lineup will look like as of right now? It’s really hard to know if the freshmen OH’s will come in and be ready to take over but I’m hoping they will. I’m gonna go with my gut and predict a 6-2: OH: Stowers and Murphy/Simpson (Dacosta DS) MB: Andrews and Bibinbe OPP: Sczech and McGhee S: Carlson and Kreck L: Briseño If a 5-1: Take out McGhee and Kreck, Keene DS for Sczech Baylor had one of the youngest lineups last season and it only seems younger with no seniors on the roster. Loads of talent though, especially on the pins.
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Post by donut on Feb 10, 2023 18:13:47 GMT -5
A few posts with Baylor in the top 10. In all honesty, I’m not convinced yet that they’ll even be a top 15 team at the beginning of the season. The situation in the middle makes me really nervous. Very unproven. Pretty much every team here, perhaps outside of Stanford and Wisconsin, have pretty big question marks and/or unproven players at key positions.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Feb 10, 2023 18:40:42 GMT -5
When was the last time a team won a national title without an elite (All-American level) middle blocker? Neither of Nebraska´s middles were actual All Americans in the 2017 season. That said, Holman had been a first teamer years prior and Stivrins was a first teamer the very next season. The real answer is probably UCLA 2011. I'd say Kentucky too. Tealer might have been A-A, but it was in a middle-ish role.
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Feb 10, 2023 23:13:18 GMT -5
Fairbanks is definitely something special. Girl can push middle 10 feet off the net, i don’t see any other setter consistently doing that other Oklahoma’s setter chamberlain. And i don’t think half of y’all realize pitts offense last year wasn’t great outside of buzzario and their middles. Their pins are immediate upgrades even though they’re young. & ik im late lol hmmm, well, one would think that if she was THAT special and could push the middle 10 feet off the net, and all the other offense wasn't great other than RS Buzzerio and the middles, Fairbanks would be setting all the way around in a 5-1 rather than hitting in the front....or are you saying Fischer is a bad coach? From where I'm sitting, it's one or the other. She's running a 6-2 because her offense is great and pitt needed her to hit. Not because she can't run a 5-1 lol.
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Feb 10, 2023 23:16:52 GMT -5
Fairbanks is definitely something special. Girl can push middle 10 feet off the net, i don’t see any other setter consistently doing that other Oklahoma’s setter chamberlain. And i don’t think half of y’all realize pitts offense last year wasn’t great outside of buzzario and their middles. Their pins are immediate upgrades even though they’re young. & ik im late lol so you think Stafford and bayless will be the two starting OHs in 2023? they're good but they've never played a college match before, personally I dont think vvg will be going to the bench and a hopefully healthy, much more experienced dalton I think has a fair shot against the typical top freshman recruit, in some cases there are freshman studs like collier and Hudson but thats not the case usually idk the name of that oppo recruit they have but I think she has the best chance of playing of those freshman pins. I only see one of either Stafford or bayless playing tho, and assuming the freshman oppo is gonna be a decent step down from buzzerio, idk if its a pin upgrade for them. made depth wise, but in terms of the starting 4? idk I see both Stafford (potentially 6 rotations) & Babock starting immediately. Bayless could be really good after getting some more training in. The pins are upgrade either way lol. As someone who enjoyed watching pitt, they were not terminal from the left. The fact they made a final four with that lineup speaks to how much of a great coach Fisher is.
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Post by stanfordvb on Feb 11, 2023 3:22:21 GMT -5
so you think Stafford and bayless will be the two starting OHs in 2023? they're good but they've never played a college match before, personally I dont think vvg will be going to the bench and a hopefully healthy, much more experienced dalton I think has a fair shot against the typical top freshman recruit, in some cases there are freshman studs like collier and Hudson but thats not the case usually idk the name of that oppo recruit they have but I think she has the best chance of playing of those freshman pins. I only see one of either Stafford or bayless playing tho, and assuming the freshman oppo is gonna be a decent step down from buzzerio, idk if its a pin upgrade for them. made depth wise, but in terms of the starting 4? idk The fact they made a final four with that lineup speaks to how much of a great coach Fisher is. or how bad of a passer GG was
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Post by ay2013 on Feb 11, 2023 4:07:43 GMT -5
hmmm, well, one would think that if she was THAT special and could push the middle 10 feet off the net, and all the other offense wasn't great other than RS Buzzerio and the middles, Fairbanks would be setting all the way around in a 5-1 rather than hitting in the front....or are you saying Fischer is a bad coach? From where I'm sitting, it's one or the other. She's running a 6-2 because her offense is great and pitt needed her to hit. Not because she can't run a 5-1 lol. Don’t take this personally but you just contradicted yourself. How can her offense be great if she’s not Buzzerio or a middle? You said “i don’t think half of y’all realize pitts offense last year wasn’t great outside of buzzario and their middles.” Fairbanks would be among that not great group, right? You had it more accurately in your first statement. Fairbanks’ offense was NOT great. She hit sub .200 on the season averaging 1 kill per set, and did absolutely nothing offensively in the sweet 16, elite 8, and final four. So, unless you think Fischer made a big mistake by not having her set a 5-1, Fairbanks isn’t as special of a setter as you think (at least not last year).
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Post by gohuskervolleyball on Feb 11, 2023 10:02:03 GMT -5
Stanford Wisconsin Texas Pitt Penn State Nebraska Oregon Louisville Minnesota Kentucky
Not sold on Nebraska being a top 5 team yet at all. We only have one proven passer in Roddy, and as hopeful as I am in Reily the setter position is still a question mark.
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Feb 13, 2023 18:18:08 GMT -5
The fact they made a final four with that lineup speaks to how much of a great coach Fisher is. or how bad of a passer GG was Yes, her passing was the main reason they lost lmao. But they still dominated the entire big ten conference with her.
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Feb 13, 2023 18:21:03 GMT -5
She's running a 6-2 because her offense is great and pitt needed her to hit. Not because she can't run a 5-1 lol. Don’t take this personally but you just contradicted yourself. How can her offense be great if she’s not Buzzerio or a middle? You said “i don’t think half of y’all realize pitts offense last year wasn’t great outside of buzzario and their middles.” Fairbanks would be among that not great group, right? You had it more accurately in your first statement. Fairbanks’ offense was NOT great. She hit sub .200 on the season averaging 1 kill per set, and did absolutely nothing offensively in the sweet 16, elite 8, and final four. So, unless you think Fischer made a big mistake by not having her set a 5-1, Fairbanks isn’t as special of a setter as you think (at least not last year). Yeah, you're a hater. No longer going back and forth with you ✌️. If you watch Fairbanks & pitt, you would know exactly what I'm saying. But you don't, obviously.
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Post by ay2013 on Feb 13, 2023 18:31:10 GMT -5
Don’t take this personally but you just contradicted yourself. How can her offense be great if she’s not Buzzerio or a middle? You said “i don’t think half of y’all realize pitts offense last year wasn’t great outside of buzzario and their middles.” Fairbanks would be among that not great group, right? You had it more accurately in your first statement. Fairbanks’ offense was NOT great. She hit sub .200 on the season averaging 1 kill per set, and did absolutely nothing offensively in the sweet 16, elite 8, and final four. So, unless you think Fischer made a big mistake by not having her set a 5-1, Fairbanks isn’t as special of a setter as you think (at least not last year). Yeah, you're a hater. No longer going back and forth with you ✌️. If you watch Fairbanks & pitt, you would know exactly what I'm saying. But you don't, obviously. So, when presented with concrete facts that you contradicted yourself (first saying that Pitt's offense wasn't great other than Buzzerio and the middles, but then arguing that Fairbanks didn't set in a 5-1 because Pitt needed her "great" front row hitting - which was under .200% at 1 kill per set for the season), your retort is that I am a hater?
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Post by donut on Feb 13, 2023 18:31:38 GMT -5
Pointing out that someone hit sub .200 with 1 kill/set seems like a pretty good rebuttal to "her offense is great."
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Post by madden55 on Feb 13, 2023 18:47:34 GMT -5
Pointing out that someone hit sub .200 with 1 kill/set seems like a pretty good rebuttal to "her offense is great." as someone who watched most pitt games fairbanks tended to be relied on a good deal offensively against the tougher parts of their schedule. Especially OOS and well her stats offensively look bad I do think she was a very important part of Pitt’s success. The Courtney D ball was hit or miss and Fairbanks tended to get her kills in big moments. She isn’t an elite ncaa opp but I think in this case the stats don’t tell the whole story. Pitt would switch to a 5-1 in some rotations or sub her out of the front row to give some other players time too like Sabrina or to get some slide offense going in a 5-1. All in all I just think Rachel’s play isn’t nearly as poor as the season stats looked more so than most other players bc Obiv stats never tell the whole story
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