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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 1, 2023 19:09:52 GMT -5
Last night I watched the repeat of 30 for 30 with the NC State miracle 83’ bball season and coach JimmyV. The players talked about how great it was that they played together for four years and played against the same guys for four years that really enhanced the rivalries. This was before 1 and done, transfer portal etc… but found it to be a great perspective compared to today’s environment. Look for it if you’ve never watched it….and damn that Houston team was loaded! well, and they were lucky to get out of round 1 vs. Jim Harrick and Pepperdine, and Dane Suttle. Double OT.
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Post by redcard on Feb 1, 2023 19:23:41 GMT -5
better than Cal? that's debatable, plus the West Lafayette market I'm sure really draws a ton Have you been there?
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Post by redcard on Feb 1, 2023 19:25:34 GMT -5
Last night I watched the repeat of 30 for 30 with the NC State miracle 83’ bball season and coach JimmyV. The players talked about how great it was that they played together for four years and played against the same guys for four years that really enhanced the rivalries. This was before 1 and done, transfer portal etc… but found it to be a great perspective compared to today’s environment. Look for it if you’ve never watched it….and damn that Houston team was loaded! well, and they were lucky to get out of round 1 vs. Jim Harrick and Pepperdine, and Dane Suttle. Double OT. They were lucky to get a bid at all. Had to win ACC and take down NC and Michael Jordan and UVA with Sampson. I think Utah was the only game in the tournament that didn’t go down to the wire….fun to watch
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Feb 1, 2023 19:28:51 GMT -5
This is mostly because of men going on missions at the age of 18, correct? Yes. The NCAA “freezes” time spent on a religious mission or service type mission ( ie peace corps). Some may argue, is two years away with no training really an advantage? I’d say it depends on the athlete, and where they go. Two years in San Diego vs two years in Haiti for example. Guys, mature later, so it may be an advantage. My nephew leaves for his mission soon, and he’s maybe 130 pounds. He’s going to the Philipines, so he may come back even lighter!FWIW, IMO, the transfer stuff is getting a little out of control. I’m not sure what the answer is, however. nah, all the filipino aunties will feed him and fatten him up ... (and then boldly tell him to his face that he's getting fat) ... haha!
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 1, 2023 19:41:51 GMT -5
better than Cal? that's debatable, plus the West Lafayette market I'm sure really draws a ton Have you been there? Yes, to West Lafayette and to Lafayette. huge media market!
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Post by redcard on Feb 1, 2023 19:47:53 GMT -5
Yes, to West Lafayette and to Lafayette. huge media market! eh….great campus though and the bball atmosphere is one of the best. (Vball is pretty great too)
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Feb 1, 2023 19:53:33 GMT -5
Yes, to West Lafayette and to Lafayette. huge media market! eh….great campus though and the bball atmosphere is one of the best. (Vball is pretty great too) yes it is, what else can one do in West Lafeyette? or Lafeyette for that matter? Tippiecanoe?
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Post by redcard on Feb 1, 2023 20:26:21 GMT -5
eh….great campus though and the bball atmosphere is one of the best. (Vball is pretty great too) yes it is, what else can one do in West Lafeyette? or Lafeyette for that matter? Tippiecanoe? Go to Indy!! idk, it’s a college town in the middle of nowhere, but they belong in the Big10..
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Post by azvb on Feb 1, 2023 20:32:07 GMT -5
Yes. The NCAA “freezes” time spent on a religious mission or service type mission ( ie peace corps). Some may argue, is two years away with no training really an advantage? I’d say it depends on the athlete, and where they go. Two years in San Diego vs two years in Haiti for example. Guys, mature later, so it may be an advantage. My nephew leaves for his mission soon, and he’s maybe 130 pounds. He’s going to the Philipines, so he may come back even lighter!FWIW, IMO, the transfer stuff is getting a little out of control. I’m not sure what the answer is, however. nah, all the filipino aunties will feed him and fatten him up ... (and then boldly tell him to his face that he's getting fat) ... haha! Hahaha. I’ve known quite a few missionaries that came home with parasites. Most of them served in South America. I was sure my son would starve in Ukraine. He was such a picky eater. But he figured out it deeply offended the families that would feed him if he didn’t at least try everything. He now cooks Eastern European food for me all the time.
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Feb 1, 2023 21:04:54 GMT -5
All of OSU's best players are playing for other Big 10 teams next year.
Good times.
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Post by volleypsq on Feb 1, 2023 22:00:31 GMT -5
Last night I watched the repeat of 30 for 30 with the NC State miracle 83’ bball season and coach JimmyV. The players talked about how great it was that they played together for four years and played against the same guys for four years that really enhanced the rivalries. This was before 1 and done, transfer portal etc… but found it to be a great perspective compared to today’s environment. Look for it if you’ve never watched it….and damn that Houston team was loaded! My dd just finished up at a top d2 Vball school. Played all four years with same girls, against same kids in conference and also in regionals each year. I get what you’re saying about team building and rivalries from year to year. It was a lot of fun!
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Post by hornshouse23 on Feb 1, 2023 22:09:53 GMT -5
All of OSU's best players are playing for other Big 10 teams next year. Good times. Hi, I have Gabby Gonzalez on line one.
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Post by oldnewbie on Feb 1, 2023 22:19:12 GMT -5
eh….great campus though and the bball atmosphere is one of the best. (Vball is pretty great too) yes it is, what else can one do in West Lafeyette? or Lafeyette for that matter? Tippiecanoe? XXX Been there twice. That's all I've done.
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Post by gogophers on Feb 1, 2023 23:24:34 GMT -5
The original poster's purpose, as I understood it, was to bemoan what's happening in vb from the point of view of a loyal fan with a favorite team. Whether the changes are good for players is a somewhat different matter. Whether the changes are good for a few mid-major teams is likewise a somewhat different matter.
I feel his pain. It's odd enough to root for players who are actually total strangers but with whom one feels an affiliation because they have chosen to play for "your" team. It feels like a betrayal and it makes one wonder "why bother" when you know that many of the players have no loyalty to "your" team and are in fact checking around for greener grass and better opportunities even as they wave to the local crowds and purport to believe that there's no place better than, no fans better than . . . you know the schtick. To be clear, I'm not speaking about players who have perfectly understandable reasons for wanting out of a situation that just isn't good for them. I am talking about all those "I want to chase a natty" types or "I hoped to play for team x all along, but they wouldn't recruit me before" types. Don't I understand that the players have a right to pursue whatever situation makes them happiest? I do; I understand their motivations. I'm just saying, as did the original poster, it makes college vb more like professional baseball, to name but one sport I stopped following because I couldn't figure out why I should care about players who were short-timers just pulling down a paycheck before moving on.
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Post by vbnerd on Feb 2, 2023 10:49:10 GMT -5
Last night I watched the repeat of 30 for 30 with the NC State miracle 83’ bball season and coach JimmyV. The players talked about how great it was that they played together for four years and played against the same guys for four years that really enhanced the rivalries. This was before 1 and done, transfer portal etc… but found it to be a great perspective compared to today’s environment. Look for it if you’ve never watched it….and damn that Houston team was loaded! I think we all grew up rooting for and against 4 year players. I don't think anyone could say that wasn't better for fans. However, the problem is that despite 1 and dones (which isn't even an NCAA thing, it's the NBA) people still show up and tune in. Football players starting skipping bowl games and the end of the season and people still show up and tune in. Athletes are transferring in you literally cannot tell the players without a scorecard - but people still show up and tune it. And someday that is probably sooner than we want to believe, the student-athletes won't even be students anymore and people are still going to show up and tune in. And now the colleges are addicted to the money and the media and there is no going back at most schools.
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