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Post by jwvolley on Nov 30, 2023 15:45:23 GMT -5
this isnt true lol Chloe 2.12 Murray 2.21 I'm actually surprised (and impressed) that Chicoine's passing is even a 2.12 based on what I've seen of her. I would have picked them to have a 0.2 gap, not a 0.09 gap in their averages - would have picked Chicoine at about a 2 (which for a freshman is still pretty decent) It improved throughout the second half of the season for Chloe. It was definitely worse earlier in the season statewise. Ugh Harper was consistently at 2.24/2.25 for weeks until this past weekend from hell (passing wise). That Wisconsin match in particular dropped her.
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Post by redcard🏐 on Nov 30, 2023 15:45:52 GMT -5
Regarding L-Rod as DPOY, even if there wasn't a clear frontrunner, there were some potential frontrunners, and L-Rod wasn't one of them. No shade on her, but I feel bad for others who seem deserving... Season digs per set: 1 Schermerhorn, Maddie (Purdue) 4.49 2 Stinson, Ellee (Northwestern) 4.41 3 Gary, Ramsey (Indiana) 4.34 4 Iosia, Nalani (Michigan State) 4.16 5 Dennis, Sydney (Iowa) 4.15 6 Murr, Kylie (Minnesota) 4.10 7 Gunter, Lilly (Maryland) 3.69 8 Grimes, Gillian (Penn State) 3.61 9 Chitty, Madyson (Rutgers) 3.60 10 Rodriguez, Lexi (Nebraska) 3.60 Conference-only digs per set: Rodriguez drops out of top 10 40% of this list (top 3 and Murr) come from the great state of Indiana!
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Post by knapplc on Nov 30, 2023 15:52:16 GMT -5
that stat sounds make up lol Even if you flip the five set matches… that’s no worse than fourth depending on tie breaks cook exaggerates about such random shi sometimes He talks off the cuff and he's not very good at it. It really comes back to bite him in the butt sometimes, like the Caffey comments he made at 2022 Media Days.
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Post by gibbyb1 on Nov 30, 2023 15:52:39 GMT -5
Regarding L-Rod as DPOY, even if there wasn't a clear frontrunner, there were some potential frontrunners, and L-Rod wasn't one of them. No shade on her, but I feel bad for others who seem deserving... Season digs per set: 1 Schermerhorn, Maddie (Purdue) 4.49 2 Stinson, Ellee (Northwestern) 4.41 3 Gary, Ramsey (Indiana) 4.34 4 Iosia, Nalani (Michigan State) 4.16 5 Dennis, Sydney (Iowa) 4.15 6 Murr, Kylie (Minnesota) 4.10 7 Gunter, Lilly (Maryland) 3.69 8 Grimes, Gillian (Penn State) 3.61 9 Chitty, Madyson (Rutgers) 3.60 10 Rodriguez, Lexi (Nebraska) 3.60 Conference-only digs per set: Rodriguez drops out of top 10 Would you consider passing or balls dug the more important metric?
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Post by huskerang74 on Nov 30, 2023 15:54:55 GMT -5
Regarding L-Rod as DPOY, even if there wasn't a clear frontrunner, there were some potential frontrunners, and L-Rod wasn't one of them. No shade on her, but I feel bad for others who seem deserving... Season digs per set: 1 Schermerhorn, Maddie (Purdue) 4.49 2 Stinson, Ellee (Northwestern) 4.41 3 Gary, Ramsey (Indiana) 4.34 4 Iosia, Nalani (Michigan State) 4.16 5 Dennis, Sydney (Iowa) 4.15 6 Murr, Kylie (Minnesota) 4.10 7 Gunter, Lilly (Maryland) 3.69 8 Grimes, Gillian (Penn State) 3.61 9 Chitty, Madyson (Rutgers) 3.60 10 Rodriguez, Lexi (Nebraska) 3.60 Conference-only digs per set: Rodriguez drops out of top 10 Lexi’s per set numbers are lower because teams target our freshmen. When you game plan to keep the ball away from a player, their numbers don’t matter. A more telling stat is her passing average and % of good passes. I don’t have them in front of me, but last I saw no one was even close.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2023 15:56:32 GMT -5
Regarding L-Rod as DPOY, even if there wasn't a clear frontrunner, there were some potential frontrunners, and L-Rod wasn't one of them. No shade on her, but I feel bad for others who seem deserving... Season digs per set: 1 Schermerhorn, Maddie (Purdue) 4.49 2 Stinson, Ellee (Northwestern) 4.41 3 Gary, Ramsey (Indiana) 4.34 4 Iosia, Nalani (Michigan State) 4.16 5 Dennis, Sydney (Iowa) 4.15 6 Murr, Kylie (Minnesota) 4.10 7 Gunter, Lilly (Maryland) 3.69 8 Grimes, Gillian (Penn State) 3.61 9 Chitty, Madyson (Rutgers) 3.60 10 Rodriguez, Lexi (Nebraska) 3.60 Conference-only digs per set: Rodriguez drops out of top 10 Would you consider passing or balls dug the more important metric? uhm for a defensive player of the year award? balls dug.... you know this lmao
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Post by bruinsgold on Nov 30, 2023 16:05:32 GMT -5
Regarding L-Rod as DPOY, even if there wasn't a clear frontrunner, there were some potential frontrunners, and L-Rod wasn't one of them. No shade on her, but I feel bad for others who seem deserving... Season digs per set: 1 Schermerhorn, Maddie (Purdue) 4.49 2 Stinson, Ellee (Northwestern) 4.41 3 Gary, Ramsey (Indiana) 4.34 4 Iosia, Nalani (Michigan State) 4.16 5 Dennis, Sydney (Iowa) 4.15 6 Murr, Kylie (Minnesota) 4.10 7 Gunter, Lilly (Maryland) 3.69 8 Grimes, Gillian (Penn State) 3.61 9 Chitty, Madyson (Rutgers) 3.60 10 Rodriguez, Lexi (Nebraska) 3.60 Conference-only digs per set: Rodriguez drops out of top 10 Lexi’s per set numbers are lower because teams target our freshmen. When you game plan to keep the ball away from a player, their numbers don’t matter. A more telling stat is her passing average and % of good passes. I don’t have them in front of me, but last I saw no one was even close. If this was a LIBERO OF THE YEAR award, then yes. But it's not.
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Post by huskerang74 on Nov 30, 2023 16:20:56 GMT -5
Lexi’s per set numbers are lower because teams target our freshmen. When you game plan to keep the ball away from a player, their numbers don’t matter. A more telling stat is her passing average and % of good passes. I don’t have them in front of me, but last I saw no one was even close. If this was a LIBERO OF THE YEAR award, then yes. But it's not. So you expect a libero to have good passing numbers, but not your other backroom players? I guess I'm confused. I do struggle with how to pick a DPOY when there is such a huge difference between passing/floor defense and blocking/net defense. Those are totally different games, but it's all defense. Anyone playing in the back row should be able to pass with a high degree of accuracy, and yes, I do consider that more important than digs/set. I'm happy for Lexi - I don't disagree with the selection - but for the record, I had it going to Colvin.
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Post by bruinsgold on Nov 30, 2023 16:34:49 GMT -5
If this was a LIBERO OF THE YEAR award, then yes. But it's not. So you expect a libero to have good passing numbers, but not your other backroom players? I guess I'm confused. I do struggle with how to pick a DPOY when there is such a huge difference between passing/floor defense and blocking/net defense. Those are totally different games, but it's all defense. Anyone playing in the back row should be able to pass with a high degree of accuracy, and yes, I do consider that more important than digs/set. I'm happy for Lexi - I don't disagree with the selection - but for the record, I had it going to Colvin. I definitely expect the libero to have great passing numbers and Lexi does. If it was a LIBERO of the Year Award, I'd hands down give it to her. But that's not the case. Nor has it been the case for several years. That's on the B1G for continuing to name it Defensive Player of the Year and not something else. And for the last few years, it has gone to a defensive player who's led in a defensive category (digs per set/blocks per set). I think if that's the metric you're gonna award by, then the player who wins it should at least be in the top 3 of that category. Lexi was not. Not her fault that Nebraska has recruited and trained great defensive players in Murray, Choboy, and the rest. It's also unfair to look at the others and say, "Sorry, you put in that hard work but we decided to award based on other metrics this year." For the record: I thought it should've gone to Booth or Colvin. But if it was from a group of liberos, it should've been at least been from the ones leading in the stat category they've used previously.
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Post by vballfan17 on Nov 30, 2023 16:40:45 GMT -5
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Post by vballfan17 on Nov 30, 2023 16:45:47 GMT -5
Recent history shows:
2023 - 2 schools represented in end of year awards 2022 - 4 schools 2021 - 4 schools 2020 - 4 schools 2019 - 3 schools 2018 - 3 schools 2017 - 3 schools 2016 - 3 schools
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Post by gibbyb1 on Nov 30, 2023 16:56:49 GMT -5
Would you consider passing or balls dug the more important metric? uhm for a defensive player of the year award? balls dug.... you know this lmao I do know this but the majority of these “defensive” awards are given to libero, coaches can and do vote for the best player in that position and you know this .
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Post by gibbyb1 on Nov 30, 2023 16:59:21 GMT -5
So you expect a libero to have good passing numbers, but not your other backroom players? I guess I'm confused. I do struggle with how to pick a DPOY when there is such a huge difference between passing/floor defense and blocking/net defense. Those are totally different games, but it's all defense. Anyone playing in the back row should be able to pass with a high degree of accuracy, and yes, I do consider that more important than digs/set. I'm happy for Lexi - I don't disagree with the selection - but for the record, I had it going to Colvin. I definitely expect the libero to have great passing numbers and Lexi does. If it was a LIBERO of the Year Award, I'd hands down give it to her. But that's not the case. Nor has it been the case for several years. That's on the B1G for continuing to name it Defensive Player of the Year and not something else. And for the last few years, it has gone to a defensive player who's led in a defensive category (digs per set/blocks per set). I think if that's the metric you're gonna award by, then the player who wins it should at least be in the top 3 of that category. Lexi was not. Not her fault that Nebraska has recruited and trained great defensive players in Murray, Choboy, and the rest. It's also unfair to look at the others and say, "Sorry, you put in that hard work but we decided to award based on other metrics this year." For the record: I thought it should've gone to Booth or Colvin. But if it was from a group of liberos, it should've been at least been from the ones leading in the stat category they've used previously. Correct. Coaches are voting for who they believe is the best libero. If digs per set is the lone criteria, why even have voting?
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Post by hornshouse23 on Nov 30, 2023 17:02:28 GMT -5
Would you consider passing or balls dug the more important metric? uhm for a defensive player of the year award? balls dug.... you know this lmao Right. If they want to honor passing, have a Libero of the Year award. And teach people how to pronounce while you’re at it.
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Post by nothingbutcorn on Nov 30, 2023 17:10:11 GMT -5
Sounds like we need one more award, BLOY.
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