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Post by dbro1970 on Jun 8, 2023 15:50:36 GMT -5
How do you see the league shaping up now that most all spring play is complete in the Big Ten. My take… 1. Wisconsin 2. Nebraska 3. Penn State 4. Minnesota 5. Purdue 6. Ohio State 7. Illinois 8. Michigan 9. Maryland 10. Indiana 11. Northwestern 12. Michigan State 13. Iowa 14. Rutgers i don’t think i see that wide of a gap between WI and 2-4. PSU and Neb could easily take the top spot this upcoming season with the additions (PSU) and stability (NEB) on the roster. WI has a TON of depth - but it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out with all of the pins they have. As an illini fan - if we can’t get a pin transfer in this next portal battle - i see us staying as a middle of the pack team. Any big addition we get can sneak us into the Purdue/OSU tier. Yeah, with Sara Franklin having surgery on her shoulder and being out indefinitely, Wisconsins depth, which was a major strength, has already disappeared along with that gap between 1 and 2-4. I have it being a close four way race with Purdue being a darkhorse depending on how their freshmen and new setter perform.
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Post by badgerguru on Jun 8, 2023 16:06:19 GMT -5
i don’t think i see that wide of a gap between WI and 2-4. PSU and Neb could easily take the top spot this upcoming season with the additions (PSU) and stability (NEB) on the roster. WI has a TON of depth - but it’ll be interesting to see how it plays out with all of the pins they have. As an illini fan - if we can’t get a pin transfer in this next portal battle - i see us staying as a middle of the pack team. Any big addition we get can sneak us into the Purdue/OSU tier. Yeah, with Sara Franklin having surgery on her shoulder and being out indefinitely, Wisconsins depth, which was a major strength, has already disappeared along with that gap between 1 and 2-4. I have it being a close four way race with Purdue being a darkhorse depending on how their freshmen and new setter perform. I wouldn’t say the badgers depth has ‘disappeared’. We still have an OH to spare if anything were to go wrong, obviously wishing nothing does go wrong. But depth is still very much in tact
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Post by ndodge on Jun 8, 2023 17:11:48 GMT -5
Yeah, with Sara Franklin having surgery on her shoulder and being out indefinitely, Wisconsins depth, which was a major strength, has already disappeared along with that gap between 1 and 2-4. I have it being a close four way race with Purdue being a darkhorse depending on how their freshmen and new setter perform. I wouldn’t say the badgers depth has ‘disappeared’. We still have an OH to spare if anything were to go wrong, obviously wishing nothing does go wrong. But depth is still very much in tact Liz and Jade would be nice to have now but I'm still happy they will likely get more playing time at their new locations.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Jun 8, 2023 17:16:08 GMT -5
I don’t think it would be as much of an injury risk if they followed the basketball tournament formula: 5 rounds with the top four seeds getting a double bye. Doing it the week of thanksgiving also means they could have the first three rounds Monday-Wednesday and the semis and finals on Friday and Saturday, making Thanksgiving a rest day. Thats potentially five matches in one week for a Cinderella team. In theory it would, but I don’t see many of the teams in that 11-14 range busting out and causing enough upsets to make it past the third day / quarterfinals.
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Post by PostPrime on Jun 8, 2023 21:36:21 GMT -5
Thats potentially five matches in one week for a Cinderella team. In theory it would, but I don’t see many of the teams in that 11-14 range busting out and causing enough upsets to make it past the third day / quarterfinals. And if somehow it happened once every 15 years that team would be more then happy for the experience and opportunity to then make the NCAA’s. The Big 10 coaches missed out on this Bigtime. The SEC coaches out smarted them.
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Post by photos1 on Jun 8, 2023 22:47:08 GMT -5
Nebraska now has an elite setter and the best OHs in the conference (and Beason, Murray and Krause are lethal from the back row-with a setter who can and does use them at a high rate), Nebraska has the best back row defense in the conference with the best L in the country; the questions are how good will either Mendleson or Jackson be at MB2 to compliment Allick at MB1, how well will they block as a team, and will this team serve at an elite level? Also, can Reilly continue to improve at the rate she has since she got to Lincoln in January? But maybe the biggest question is, will the non-starters accept their roles? Only Nebraska will beat Nebraska.
This is a very young team that does not have a senior on the roster roster and looks to start 3 freshman a sophomore and 3 juniors, in addition their number one DS is also a freshman. The first time they will take the court in August will be in front of over 91,000 fans in the outdoor match at Memorial Stadium-weather permitting. .
I see the B1G in 23’ being Nebraska … followed by Wisconsin, Penn State and Minnesota … Purdue has some good pieces but not enough to crack the top four. There may be a drop off after the top five. Indiana,, Michigan State, Ohio State, Maryland, and Illinois will battle to make the tournament. Rutgers, Iowa, Northwestern, and Michigan will fight from below. We’ll see how it goes… 🏐
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Post by greatlakesvballer on Jun 9, 2023 4:43:19 GMT -5
Only Nebraska will beat Nebraska. Hope springs eternal 😆
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Post by GoGophs on Jun 9, 2023 5:49:47 GMT -5
Nebraska now has an elite setter and the best OHs in the conference (and Beason, Murray and Krause are lethal from the back row-with a setter who can and does use them at a high rate), Nebraska has the best back row defense in the conference with the best L in the country; the questions are how good will either Mendleson or Jackson be at MB2 to compliment Allick at MB1, how well will they block as a team, and will this team serve at an elite level? Also, can Reilly continue to improve at the rate she has since she got to Lincoln in January? But maybe the biggest question is, will the non-starters accept their roles? Only Nebraska will beat Nebraska. This is a very young team that does not have a senior on the roster roster and looks to start 3 freshman a sophomore and 3 juniors, in addition their number one DS is also a freshman. The first time they will take the court in August will be in front of over 91,000 fans in the outdoor match at Memorial Stadium-weather permitting. . I see the B1G in 23’ being Nebraska … followed by Wisconsin, Penn State and Minnesota … Purdue has some good pieces but not enough to crack the top four. There may be a drop off after the top five. Indiana,, Michigan State, Ohio State, Maryland, and Illinois will battle to make the tournament. Rutgers, Iowa, Northwestern, and Michigan will fight from below. We’ll see how it goes… 🏐 The best OH’s in the conference? Landfair, Mruzik, Hudson, Terry, TTA etc. might have something to say about that…
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Post by slxpress on Jun 9, 2023 5:55:59 GMT -5
To be the man you got to beat the man. Or woman in this case. Nebraska has to show they can beat Wisconsin first. It’s another one of those seasons where they may get three shots at it.
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Post by PeoriaBucky on Jun 9, 2023 7:36:29 GMT -5
Nebraska's stellar recruiting class has looked impressive so far, but I'm a big believer in the value of experience at the setter position. Can Bergen Reilly connect with her hitters quickly and consistently enough to get the Huskers a B10 title this year? That's the question, because Orr certainly wasn't up to the task last season. Reilly very well could do it, but the B10 season is long and challenging, we'll see how everything shakes out.
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Jun 9, 2023 8:24:32 GMT -5
In theory it would, but I don’t see many of the teams in that 11-14 range busting out and causing enough upsets to make it past the third day / quarterfinals. And if somehow it happened once every 15 years that team would be more then happy for the experience and opportunity to then make the NCAA’s. The Big 10 coaches missed out on this Bigtime. The SEC coaches out smarted them. I’m sure the teams would be ecstatic if they went from 11th to 1st in the Big 10 over the course of a conference tournament, but just because it could happens doesn’t mean it’s a realistic outcome. Maybe for teams in that 7-10 range who’d start on the second day we could see some deep runs, but volleyball isn’t as prone to tournament upsets as basketball is. Just look at the NCAA tournament last season where 15 of the 16 hosting schools advanced to the regionals (pour one out for Creighton). I wouldn’t necessarily say that the SEC outsmarted the Big 10 on this matter, as the odds of a low tier SEC team knocking out the top dogs in their conference is very unlikely - especially now that they have Texas joining the ranks. It’s all just a matter of money
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Post by PostPrime on Jun 9, 2023 9:14:36 GMT -5
And if somehow it happened once every 15 years that team would be more then happy for the experience and opportunity to then make the NCAA’s. The Big 10 coaches missed out on this Bigtime. The SEC coaches out smarted them. I’m sure the teams would be ecstatic if they went from 11th to 1st in the Big 10 over the course of a conference tournament, but just because it could happens doesn’t mean it’s a realistic outcome. Maybe for teams in that 7-10 range who’d start on the second day we could see some deep runs, but volleyball isn’t as prone to tournament upsets as basketball is. Just look at the NCAA tournament last season where 15 of the 16 hosting schools advanced to the regionals (pour one out for Creighton). I wouldn’t necessarily say that the SEC outsmarted the Big 10 on this matter, as the odds of a low tier SEC team knocking out the top dogs in their conference is very unlikely - especially now that they have Texas joining the ranks. It’s all just a matter of money Completely agree. Bottom tier won’t likely move that far up and won’t end up hurting the top tiers. Much more likely the top tiers play each other and the rpi moves up for most of them. Win/win. Probably the oligarchs of the league fighting change and possibly losing a match at home if they don’t host. Lame. They would dominate TV for volleyball that week.
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Post by SportyBucky on Jun 9, 2023 10:16:16 GMT -5
Nebraska now has an elite setter and the best OHs in the conference (and Beason, Murray and Krause are lethal from the back row-with a setter who can and does use them at a high rate), Nebraska has the best back row defense in the conference with the best L in the country; the questions are how good will either Mendleson or Jackson be at MB2 to compliment Allick at MB1, how well will they block as a team, and will this team serve at an elite level? Also, can Reilly continue to improve at the rate she has since she got to Lincoln in January? But maybe the biggest question is, will the non-starters accept their roles? Only Nebraska will beat Nebraska. This is a very young team that does not have a senior on the roster roster and looks to start 3 freshman a sophomore and 3 juniors, in addition their number one DS is also a freshman. The first time they will take the court in August will be in front of over 91,000 fans in the outdoor match at Memorial Stadium-weather permitting. . I see the B1G in 23’ being Nebraska … followed by Wisconsin, Penn State and Minnesota … Purdue has some good pieces but not enough to crack the top four. There may be a drop off after the top five. Indiana,, Michigan State, Ohio State, Maryland, and Illinois will battle to make the tournament. Rutgers, Iowa, Northwestern, and Michigan will fight from below. We’ll see how it goes… 🏐 Best OH in the conference? Not sure about that. WI has second team AA and freshman of the year that beat out yours. 🙄 Penn State's are at least as good. MN > NE. Didn't you have two elite setters in recent past? Maybe Cook "Orrs" setters that aren't named Lauren?
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Post by badgerbyproxy on Jun 9, 2023 10:42:56 GMT -5
Nebraska now has an elite setter and the best OHs in the conference (and Beason, Murray and Krause are lethal from the back row-with a setter who can and does use them at a high rate), Nebraska has the best back row defense in the conference with the best L in the country; the questions are how good will either Mendleson or Jackson be at MB2 to compliment Allick at MB1, how well will they block as a team, and will this team serve at an elite level? Also, can Reilly continue to improve at the rate she has since she got to Lincoln in January? But maybe the biggest question is, will the non-starters accept their roles? Only Nebraska will beat Nebraska. This is a very young team that does not have a senior on the roster roster and looks to start 3 freshman a sophomore and 3 juniors, in addition their number one DS is also a freshman. The first time they will take the court in August will be in front of over 91,000 fans in the outdoor match at Memorial Stadium-weather permitting. . I see the B1G in 23’ being Nebraska … followed by Wisconsin, Penn State and Minnesota … Purdue has some good pieces but not enough to crack the top four. There may be a drop off after the top five. Indiana,, Michigan State, Ohio State, Maryland, and Illinois will battle to make the tournament. Rutgers, Iowa, Northwestern, and Michigan will fight from below. We’ll see how it goes… 🏐 Best OH in the conference? Not sure about that. WI has second team AA and freshman of the year that beat out yours. 🙄 Penn State's are at least as good. MN > NE. Didn't you have two elite setters in recent past? Maybe Cook "Orrs" setters that aren't named Lauren? If we’re ranking the OH position for these top teams, I’d probably put Minnesota just ahead of Wisconsin. Landfair is a first team AA and Wucherer (if she stays healthy) is no joke. I’m excited to see how they match up with TTA and Orzol this year! I’d put the OHs for the top five teams in the following order: 1. Minnesota (Landfair-Wucherer) 2. Wisconsin (TTA-Orzol) 3. Nebraska (Murray-Krause/Batenhorst) 4. Purdue (Hudson-Chicoine) 5. Penn State (Mruzik-Markley/Starck)
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Post by SportyBucky on Jun 9, 2023 11:10:20 GMT -5
Best OH in the conference? Not sure about that. WI has second team AA and freshman of the year that beat out yours. 🙄 Penn State's are at least as good. MN > NE. Didn't you have two elite setters in recent past? Maybe Cook "Orrs" setters that aren't named Lauren? If we’re ranking the OH position for these top teams, I’d probably put Minnesota just ahead of Wisconsin. Landfair is a first team AA and Wucherer (if she stays healthy) is no joke. I’m excited to see how they match up with TTA and Orzol this year! I’d put the OHs for the top five teams in the following order: 1. Minnesota (Landfair-Wucherer) 2. Wisconsin (TTA-Orzol) 3. Nebraska (Murray-Krause/Batenhorst) 4. Purdue (Hudson-Chicoine) 5. Penn State (Mruzik-Markley/Starck) Not sure Purdue is ahead of PSU. Mruzik is one of the best and much better than NE hitters.
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