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Post by BearClause on Feb 23, 2023 21:25:18 GMT -5
No, you are. That’s how you framed what happened. “An unarmed person broke a window and was shot and killed.” Of course it was not that simple, but you like to think so. thats exactly what happened by the officer that had a bad habit of leaving his firearm in bathrooms,etc. Ashli Babbitt didn't break the window. She tried to climb through a broken window, even after specifically being warning by officers on the other side who were holding down the fort as members of Congress and their staff were being evacuated. I mean - one idiot on the side she was on even yelled out "He's got a gun!" But she thought that she was starting a revolution. And guess what? Revolutionaries can die in the process. She had it coming to her. She served in security in the Air Force. If she had been protecting high ranking officers, she would have done the same thing in the job, which was to protect high value assets.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 23, 2023 21:29:53 GMT -5
thats exactly what happened by the officer that had a bad habit of leaving his firearm in bathrooms,etc. Ashli Babbitt didn't break the window. She tried to climb through a broken window, even after specifically being warning by officers on the other side who were holding down the fort as members of Congress and their staff were being evacuated. I mean - one idiot on the side she was on even yelled out "He's got a gun!" But she thought that she was starting a revolution. And guess what? Revolutionaries can die in the process. She had it coming to her. She served in security in the Air Force. If she had been protecting high ranking officers, she would have done the same thing in the job, which was to protect high value assets. so she had no weapon, she didnt break and window but tried to climb through it and got shot in the back. She probably watched the months of shameless rioting and thought to herself....nothing happens to these people who injure police officers or the people that burned police cars. They also believed in a revolution you complete moron. Should they have been shot dead also? Of course not...She was murdered by a questionable officer with a history of stupidity and you condone it...but why am I not surprised? You also believe in killing babies don't you bear?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Feb 23, 2023 21:37:19 GMT -5
Babbitt died because she disappeared down a rabbit hole of misinformation, conspiracy theories, and believing Donald Trump.
Holiday should think on this very carefully.
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Post by moody on Feb 23, 2023 21:44:21 GMT -5
Ashli Babbitt didn't break the window. She tried to climb through a broken window, even after specifically being warning by officers on the other side who were holding down the fort as members of Congress and their staff were being evacuated. I mean - one idiot on the side she was on even yelled out "He's got a gun!" But she thought that she was starting a revolution. And guess what? Revolutionaries can die in the process. She had it coming to her. She served in security in the Air Force. If she had been protecting high ranking officers, she would have done the same thing in the job, which was to protect high value assets. so she had no weapon, she didnt break and window but tried to climb through it and got shot in the back. She probably watched the months of shameless rioting and thought to herself....nothing happens to these people who injure police officers or the people that burned police cars. They also believed in a revolution you complete moron. Should they have been shot dead also? Of course not...She was murdered by a questionable officer with a history of stupidity and you condone it...but why am I not surprised? You also believe in killing babies don't you bear? Babbitt was NOT shot in the back. She was shot while climbing through a window and being warned not to in the midst of an insurrection.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 23, 2023 22:40:58 GMT -5
Babbitt died because she disappeared down a rabbit hole of misinformation, conspiracy theories, and believing Donald Trump. Holiday should think on this very carefully. so your answer is yes, anyone rioting should be shot and killed? Especially if they’re trying to break into a building they’re not supposed to be in? Right?
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Feb 23, 2023 22:43:31 GMT -5
Babbitt died because she disappeared down a rabbit hole of misinformation, conspiracy theories, and believing Donald Trump. Holiday should think on this very carefully. so your answer is yes, anyone rioting should be shot and killed? Especially if they’re trying to break into a building they’re not supposed to be in? Right? Nope.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 23, 2023 22:45:23 GMT -5
so your answer is yes, anyone rioting should be shot and killed? Especially if they’re trying to break into a building they’re not supposed to be in? Right? Nope. So Babbitt should’ve been killed? Because she was unarmed and broke into a window after she was told not to? So she should’ve been killed? I see your reasoning. It makes total sense.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 23, 2023 22:49:30 GMT -5
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Feb 23, 2023 22:58:59 GMT -5
So Babbitt should’ve been killed? Because she was unarmed and broke into a window after she was told not to? So she should’ve been killed? I see your reasoning. It makes total sense. She was at the head of a mob trying to violently break into the House Chamber while lawmakers and staff were being evacuated. Multiple people were yelling that a gun had been pulled on the other side by law enforcement, but she kept going and died for it. It's actually fortunate it wasn't worse, because the next move would have been LEO's using automatic weapons. There is no comparison between this incident and, say, someone breaking a store window. It's not apples to oranges, it's apples to orangutans, despite the efforts of certain Fox News personalities to claim otherwise.
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Post by BearClause on Feb 23, 2023 23:17:19 GMT -5
Ashli Babbitt didn't break the window. She tried to climb through a broken window, even after specifically being warning by officers on the other side who were holding down the fort as members of Congress and their staff were being evacuated. I mean - one idiot on the side she was on even yelled out "He's got a gun!" But she thought that she was starting a revolution. And guess what? Revolutionaries can die in the process. She had it coming to her. She served in security in the Air Force. If she had been protecting high ranking officers, she would have done the same thing in the job, which was to protect high value assets. so she had no weapon, she didnt break and window but tried to climb through it and got shot in the back. She probably watched the months of shameless rioting and thought to herself....nothing happens to these people who injure police officers or the people that burned police cars. They also believed in a revolution you complete moron. Should they have been shot dead also? Of course not...She was murdered by a questionable officer with a history of stupidity and you condone it...but why am I not surprised? You also believe in killing babies don't you bear? She didn't get shot in the back. She got shot in the left shoulder. Where the hell do you get off claiming that she was shot in the back? I get that lying comes naturally to you, but please stop it. She was climbing into the window facing towards the officer. I have no problem when justifiable force is being used against people breaking the law. Depending on the situation, that might be batons. But yeah - I would see how you would think that people committing property crimes should be shot, but people like Babbitt who are breaking into a Capitol Building hallway are justified in their actions. Because I'm sure you would have been happy if they could have somehow gotten to several members of Congress and maybe hold a trial on the spot or maybe beat them over the head like many did to the police that day.
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Post by BearClause on Feb 23, 2023 23:19:18 GMT -5
So Babbitt should’ve been killed? Because she was unarmed and broke into a window after she was told not to? So she should’ve been killed? I see your reasoning. It makes total sense. Under the situation at hand, yes she should have been stopped. If that meant shooting at her with the possibility of her death, then so be it. I'm sure you wish she could have succeeded and the mob behind her might capture several members of Congress.
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Post by oldnewbie on Feb 24, 2023 1:37:26 GMT -5
Fox is part of the media. Fox is the one accused in court of playing fast and loose with the facts to create a narrative that you want to hear, repeating things they know are false and holding back information that would contradict what you want to believe. The Tucker Carlson show has already declared in court not to believe what he says, yet you are excited to hear what he says, since you are one of "his people". You essentially repeated what I said, that you are excited to be knowingly lied to, yet you you called me (and others) a liar. You are naive, uninformed and frankly rude and unable to control yourself in a civil manner. You are definitely "his people". You are proud of that. That is a very bad sign. We don't need people like you feed even more lies because it keeps you watching. You want just your propaganda to be on the news. You’re just as bad as Getty. I can’t wait until the footage comes out. My guess is you’ll see a policeman actually open the doors for people. You’ll see all kinds of things that of course never saw the light of day when corrupt Nancy was in charge. So evidently you’re not interested in the entire story. You people are so crooked it’s sad. Yeah, your track record of telling me what I think is pretty piss poor, but that will never stop you, will it? I would love the entire story. McCarthy could have participated in the 1/6 hearings. He and the Republicans could have had access to everything. He chose not to. Now McCarthy is the Speaker, and he could have his own hearings with a bipartisan committee. I would welcome that. He could release anything he felt was held back. He did not want to. Why? Why didn't he want to have hearings to go over anything the Republicans thought was held back? Why didn't he want to be personally involved with his own hearings if he was really interested in the whole story? Kinda makes you wonder why McCarthy wants to be far removed while Carlson, who has made a career of manipulating news for people like you and it has been testified under oath in court that he is an entertainer and nobody should take him seriously, does what he does.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 24, 2023 2:16:03 GMT -5
You want just your propaganda to be on the news. You’re just as bad as Getty. I can’t wait until the footage comes out. My guess is you’ll see a policeman actually open the doors for people. You’ll see all kinds of things that of course never saw the light of day when corrupt Nancy was in charge. So evidently you’re not interested in the entire story. You people are so crooked it’s sad. Yeah, your track record of telling me what I think is pretty piss poor, but that will never stop you, will it? I would love the entire story. McCarthy could have participated in the 1/6 hearings. He and the Republicans could have had access to everything. He chose not to. Now McCarthy is the Speaker, and he could have his own hearings with a bipartisan committee. I would welcome that. He could release anything he felt was held back. He did not want to. Why? Why didn't he want to have hearings to go over anything the Republicans thought was held back? Why didn't he want to be personally involved with his own hearings if he was really interested in the whole story? Kinda makes you wonder why McCarthy wants to be far removed while Carlson, who has made a career of manipulating news for people like you and it has been testified under oath in court that he is an entertainer and nobody should take him seriously, does what he does. So scared. So petrified. You should be. For the last several years you people lived enjoying a complete lie.
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Post by oldnewbie on Feb 24, 2023 2:38:36 GMT -5
Yeah, your track record of telling me what I think is pretty piss poor, but that will never stop you, will it? I would love the entire story. McCarthy could have participated in the 1/6 hearings. He and the Republicans could have had access to everything. He chose not to. Now McCarthy is the Speaker, and he could have his own hearings with a bipartisan committee. I would welcome that. He could release anything he felt was held back. He did not want to. Why? Why didn't he want to have hearings to go over anything the Republicans thought was held back? Why didn't he want to be personally involved with his own hearings if he was really interested in the whole story? Kinda makes you wonder why McCarthy wants to be far removed while Carlson, who has made a career of manipulating news for people like you and it has been testified under oath in court that he is an entertainer and nobody should take him seriously, does what he does. So scared. So petrified. You should be. For the last several years you people lived enjoying a complete lie. You can't answer that question, can you? If there was something legitimate there to find why would McCarthy not want to be the one in charge of shining the light? Why not the Republicans outing that the Dems withheld evidence? Without going into how compromised Carlson is, you have to wonder why him?
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Post by longboards on Feb 24, 2023 5:53:12 GMT -5
Yeah, your track record of telling me what I think is pretty piss poor, but that will never stop you, will it? I would love the entire story. McCarthy could have participated in the 1/6 hearings. He and the Republicans could have had access to everything. He chose not to. Now McCarthy is the Speaker, and he could have his own hearings with a bipartisan committee. I would welcome that. He could release anything he felt was held back. He did not want to. Why? Why didn't he want to have hearings to go over anything the Republicans thought was held back? Why didn't he want to be personally involved with his own hearings if he was really interested in the whole story? Kinda makes you wonder why McCarthy wants to be far removed while Carlson, who has made a career of manipulating news for people like you and it has been testified under oath in court that he is an entertainer and nobody should take him seriously, does what he does. So scared. So petrified. You should be. For the last several years you people lived enjoying a complete lie. Holiday, you need to take a holiday. People present simple and clear facts you willingly ignore to support some fantastical narrative. Read a book, turn the TV off, and start thinking for yourself again. You CANNOT truly believed a violent mob, who stormed the capitol, erected gallows, chanted for the vp to be hanged, assaulted police officers, yelled of revolution, and were a direct threat to congressmen, are the same as a bunch of criminals looting stores and vandalizing empty cop cars. Both criminals, stark differences. You know this but you have some weird online chat room glutton for punishment and inability to acknowledge reality... Even though privately you know it to be true.
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