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Post by mikegarrison on Feb 18, 2023 20:28:52 GMT -5
Does the lack of Fox apologies mean anything where the sincerity of Lemon's is concerned? I don't know. Is an alleged insincere apology worse than no apology at all? I don't really think so. It can be. Apologize once, and that's good. Apologize twice, and that's good. But about the fourth or fifth apology, it is no longer good. At some point it becomes clear that a person using using apologies as a license to continue bad behavior. |
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Post by FreeBall on Feb 18, 2023 20:31:54 GMT -5
The likelihood of Fox apologizing for their disingenuous coverage of Trump's post-2020 election shenanigans is about the same as the likelihood of hoolie admitting he was wrong. Neither will ever happen.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 18, 2023 20:34:35 GMT -5
The likelihood of Fox apologizing for their disingenuous coverage of Trump's post-2020 election shenanigans is about the same as the likelihood of hoolie admitting he was wrong. Neither will ever happen. I wonder if CNN will apologize for pushing the lie of Trump being a Russian Agent? Oh well...their punishment obviously is Don Lemon. |
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 18, 2023 20:34:44 GMT -5
The chairman of Fox, the CEO of Fox News, and Fox's three biggest on-air personalities were all caught complaining that accurate reporting damages the Fox News brand and ratings. Carlson and Hannity suggested severe repercussions for objective reporting, up to and including termination from the company - and Suzanne Scott, Fox's Chief Executive Officer, agreed with them. Those very same people made an explicit decision to feed their audience conspiracy theories in order to try and win back viewers. Fiction over fact for the sole purpose of driving up Fox's price per share. In the other corner, we have Don Lemon making an off-the-cuff comment on CNN about "women in their prime" that he immediately and profusely walked back. I don't see how any reasonable person could see these as even remotely comparable. Extremely valid point. I am surprised, though, with the level of cynicism you often display, that you, carte blanche take Lemon's apology as sincere. Don Lemon seems to have gotten caught up in his own argument so much, he didn't see an obvious truth right in front of him. His comment about "Google a woman's prime" seems to suggest that to me anyway. Stuff like that happens on this forum quite a lot. I don't know if he had really understood what his mistake was when he apologized, but I think he can figure it out with a little distance from the moment. |
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Post by longboards on Feb 18, 2023 21:38:59 GMT -5
In a non-sarcastic question to confirm: you didnt know who Sidney Powell was?? |
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Post by longboards on Feb 18, 2023 21:44:52 GMT -5
CanMan... I did look it up and it sparked my memory of the time tucker said something along the lines of "it's time for her to show us the evidence." It may have been the one time I agreed with him and would actually support his texts to Ingraham. Though it's still damning to Fox News for still pushing her theories and definitely bad for trump who hired her.
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Feb 19, 2023 7:47:02 GMT -5
Does the lack of Fox apologies mean anything where the sincerity of Lemon's is concerned? I don't know. Is an alleged insincere apology worse than no apology at all? I don't really think so. Again, that's fine that you believe that, but the one situation still has nothing to do with the other. |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Feb 19, 2023 7:48:42 GMT -5
The likelihood of Fox apologizing for their disingenuous coverage of Trump's post-2020 election shenanigans is about the same as the likelihood of hoolie admitting he was wrong. Neither will ever happen. And if, by some unlikely chance, Fox did apologize, would you accept it? |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Feb 19, 2023 7:53:26 GMT -5
Extremely valid point. I am surprised, though, with the level of cynicism you often display, that you, carte blanche take Lemon's apology as sincere. Don Lemon seems to have gotten caught up in his own argument so much, he didn't see an obvious truth right in front of him. His comment about "Google a woman's prime" seems to suggest that to me anyway. Stuff like that happens on this forum quite a lot. I don't know if he had really understood what his mistake was when he apologized, but I think he can figure it out with a little distance from the moment. A very succinct observation and summary. I'm not sure how he misread the room, other than being focused on getting a dig in at Haley, but like you said "Stuff like that happens on this forum quite a lot." |
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Post by AmeriCanVBfan on Feb 19, 2023 8:03:36 GMT -5
In a non-sarcastic question to confirm: you didnt know who Sidney Powell was?? Didn't have a clue. I had never heard the name before that Twitter excerpt. Or if I did, it certainly didn't register or stick with me. If you showed me a picture of her, I'd have no idea who it was. |
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Post by blue-footedbooby on Feb 19, 2023 9:07:57 GMT -5
In a non-sarcastic question to confirm: you didnt know who Sidney Powell was?? Didn't have a clue. I had never heard the name before that Twitter excerpt. Or if I did, it certainly didn't register or stick with me. If you showed me a picture of her, I'd have no idea who it was. Interesting that you should offer so much commentary for not knowing such a key player in the story. Are you even familiar with what happened on Jan 6, 2021? Given the fact that you even mention a Don Lemon piece in the same breath as the Fox piece seriously makes me wonder. |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 19, 2023 9:10:29 GMT -5
Extremely valid point. I am surprised, though, with the level of cynicism you often display, that you, carte blanche take Lemon's apology as sincere. Don Lemon seems to have gotten caught up in his own argument so much, he didn't see an obvious truth right in front of him. His comment about "Google a woman's prime" seems to suggest that to me anyway. Stuff like that happens on this forum quite a lot. I don't know if he had really understood what his mistake was when he apologized, but I think he can figure it out with a little distance from the moment. You’re acting as if Don lemon has not been an ass his entire life? He’s said numerous edgy things over his career and many stupid things so you’re making excuses for him now like it was a one shot deal?? |
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Post by volleyguy on Feb 19, 2023 9:47:59 GMT -5
Don Lemon seems to have gotten caught up in his own argument so much, he didn't see an obvious truth right in front of him. His comment about "Google a woman's prime" seems to suggest that to me anyway. Stuff like that happens on this forum quite a lot. I don't know if he had really understood what his mistake was when he apologized, but I think he can figure it out with a little distance from the moment. You’re acting as if Don lemon has not been an ass his entire life? He’s said numerous edgy things over his career and many stupid things so you’re making excuses for him now like it was a one shot deal?? I don’t really watch Lemon or CNN. I have other options for news outlets. You’re either obsessed with Don Lemon, or he triggers you, but why. A tv personality who is an ass, edgy and says stupid things—you just described the entire Fox lineup. |
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Feb 19, 2023 9:55:48 GMT -5
The chairman of Fox, the CEO of Fox News, and Fox's three biggest on-air personalities were all caught complaining that accurate reporting damages the Fox News brand and ratings. Carlson and Hannity suggested severe repercussions for objective reporting, up to and including termination from the company - and Suzanne Scott, Fox's Chief Executive Officer, agreed with them. Those very same people made an explicit decision to feed their audience conspiracy theories in order to try and win back viewers. Fiction over fact for the sole purpose of driving up Fox's price per share. In the other corner, we have Don Lemon making an off-the-cuff comment on CNN about "women in their prime" that he immediately and profusely walked back. I don't see how any reasonable person could see these as even remotely comparable. Extremely valid point. I am surprised, though, with the level of cynicism you often display, that you, carte blanche take Lemon's apology as sincere. I’m not a particularly cynical person. At any rate, is there a reason to believe his apology was not sincere? He is not a stupid man, I believe he knew he had crossed a line. But is the quality of his apology really germane to the discussion? |
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Post by HOLIDAY on Feb 19, 2023 10:13:37 GMT -5
Extremely valid point. I am surprised, though, with the level of cynicism you often display, that you, carte blanche take Lemon's apology as sincere. I’m not a particularly cynical person. At any rate, is there a reason to believe his apology was not sincere? He is not a stupid man, I believe he knew he had crossed a line. But is the quality of his apology really germane to the discussion? 😅😂😂 |
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