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Post by definitelymaybe on Feb 19, 2023 20:13:09 GMT -5
G. Pitts (‘25 Libero) playing up with M. Spears on 17 Black is also a stud I've heard great stuff about her, as well. Keri Leimbach seems to be well thought of at libero as well. With Mauch & Choboy headed to the Huskers, it will be interesting what she does along with club teammate Natalie Wardlow |
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Post by haterade on Feb 19, 2023 23:02:47 GMT -5
I've heard great stuff about her, as well. Keri Leimbach seems to be well thought of at libero as well. With Mauch & Choboy headed to the Huskers, it will be interesting what she does along with club teammate Natalie Wardlow Callie Kruger will be a highly sought after libero as well. |
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Post by bluepenquin on Feb 20, 2023 7:41:09 GMT -5
To be a bit cynical about this.
Stanford will get their players. Nebraska and Texas will compete for the rest of the players. Once that dust has settled - the remaining players go to their option B and is mostly in the mix among about 12-15 programs. Once that is settled - the rest of D1 compete for the rest.
So, really at this stage, it is who is likely to go to Stanford and how many scholarships does Nebraska and Texas have available for the 2025's and they duke it out for who they want.
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Post by oldnewbie on Feb 20, 2023 8:23:21 GMT -5
To be a bit cynical about this. Stanford will get their players. Nebraska and Texas will compete for the rest of the players. Once that dust has settled - the remaining players go to their option B and is mostly in the mix among about 12-15 programs. Once that is settled - the rest of D1 compete for the rest. So, really at this stage, it is who is likely to go to Stanford and how many scholarships does Nebraska and Texas have available for the 2025's and they duke it out for who they want. Cook will be 69 in the fall of 25. It hasn't happened yet, but at some point that will matter to recruits. Rose didn't make it to 69. Very few have. 72 is something else entirely. |
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Post by bigjohn043 on Feb 20, 2023 8:25:40 GMT -5
To be a bit cynical about this. Stanford will get their players. Nebraska and Texas will compete for the rest of the players. Once that dust has settled - the remaining players go to their option B and is mostly in the mix among about 12-15 programs. Once that is settled - the rest of D1 compete for the rest. So, really at this stage, it is who is likely to go to Stanford and how many scholarships does Nebraska and Texas have available for the 2025's and they duke it out for who they want. I am in Orlando this weekend at what is a pretty small tournament while the whole rest of the volleyball world is at Triple Crown. My daughter points out someone in a Stanford shirt and while I was pretty skeptical it was Mike Johnson. The question is why the heck is Stanford here rather than at Triple Crown. And he seemed to be watching the 16s. Kelly Kinney from Tribe is one option. Agree she hits the snot out of the ball. Still haven’t figured out how good of a passer she is…. Charlotte Glass was injured but also someone they could have been wanting to watch. What about Hazel Alevok? She is the 6-5 MB from Wildfire. She is very long and very skinny but looks to have huge potential. |
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Post by gofaster88 on Feb 20, 2023 9:48:37 GMT -5
I think the point ay is making (or what I am saying) - the best player at 15 years old isn't necessarily the best player in college. Sigler is potentially 'capped' by her height. Now, I think colleges are too obsessed with this (see Debeer). Nebraska isn't recruiting many 6-0 OH - and 6-0 on Sigler looks like on the high side for her. I assume Sigler grew some since I last really saw her playing 14's. I skipped watching prep play this past year, but I plan on making more of an effort this season. Sigler is definitely 6'2", the thing about her compared to most other Sophomores is her build. I mean if you ever see her in person, she's not just a skinny stick figure. She's absolutely powerful. She could probably play linebacker at some High Schools in AZ. |
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Feb 20, 2023 10:12:03 GMT -5
I assume Sigler grew some since I last really saw her playing 14's. I skipped watching prep play this past year, but I plan on making more of an effort this season. Sigler is definitely 6'2", the thing about her compared to most other Sophomores is her build. I mean if you ever see her in person, she's not just a skinny stick figure. She's absolutely powerful. She could probably play linebacker at some High Schools in AZ. Yeah, I don’t know why everyone is saying she undersized, she’s definitely the perfect height to be an outside. |
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Post by zzyzx on Feb 20, 2023 10:17:18 GMT -5
To be a bit cynical about this. Stanford will get their players. Nebraska and Texas will compete for the rest of the players. Once that dust has settled - the remaining players go to their option B and is mostly in the mix among about 12-15 programs. Once that is settled - the rest of D1 compete for the rest. So, really at this stage, it is who is likely to go to Stanford and how many scholarships does Nebraska and Texas have available for the 2025's and they duke it out for who they want. I am in Orlando this weekend at what is a pretty small tournament while the whole rest of the volleyball world is at Triple Crown. My daughter points out someone in a Stanford shirt and while I was pretty skeptical it was Mike Johnson. The question is why the heck is Stanford here rather than at Triple Crown. And he seemed to be watching the 16s. Kelly Kinney from Tribe is one option. Agree she hits the snot out of the ball. Still haven’t figured out how good of a passer she is…. Charlotte Glass was injured but also someone they could have been wanting to watch. What about Hazel Alevok? She is the 6-5 MB from Wildfire. She is very long and very skinny but looks to have huge potential. Stanford is definitely at Triple Crown too. I've seen Hambly multiple times, mostly at 16s. |
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Post by zzyzx on Feb 20, 2023 10:22:30 GMT -5
Ton of coaches watching MAVS 16s yesterday, probably for S/OPP Logan Park. She's really dynamic.
John Cook, Keegan Cook (Cook^2?), DBK, Vanderbilt, Utah, Wise, and a ton of mid-majors.
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Post by definitelymaybe on Feb 20, 2023 10:50:59 GMT -5
Ton of coaches watching MAVS 16s yesterday, probably for S/OPP Logan Park. She's really dynamic. John Cook, Keegan Cook (Cook^2?), DBK, Vanderbilt, Utah, Wise, and a ton of mid-majors. I think their middle, Reagan McGivern, is also drawing some interest. Maybe not from the elite but she'll get P5 looks. |
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Post by rjaege on Feb 20, 2023 10:51:35 GMT -5
To be a bit cynical about this. Stanford will get their players. Nebraska and Texas will compete for the rest of the players. Once that dust has settled - the remaining players go to their option B and is mostly in the mix among about 12-15 programs. Once that is settled - the rest of D1 compete for the rest. So, really at this stage, it is who is likely to go to Stanford and how many scholarships does Nebraska and Texas have available for the 2025's and they duke it out for who they want. I think this is historically true for Stanford and NE. Not so sure going forward. NIL is having a big impact. That seems to favor the top NIL schools which the last I heard were NE, TX and WI, alphabetically ordered. Not sure about Stanford, have not heard much, that might hurt their recruiting draw. In addition to historical success of the program, Stanford's draw IMO has been the value of their degree, that will be a draw for many SAs but not all. Depends on their career goals. TX has always been a great at recruiting outstanding athletes, particularly at OH and MB. Expect that to continue. Sheffield at WI has had great success building great teams around 1 or 2 very tall players and developing those players. WI is likely 1st choice for players 6'8" or higher, and with good reason. WI has been good a developing players at all positions. And then add in NIL. NE recruiting success is deserved based on player development history and NIL. NE will continue to be a high choice for many SAs. However, there are several new coaches in the B1G that will likely appeal to many SAs, including MN, OSU & PSU. Then there is the growing popularity of WVB, which provides more high level HS athletes and more broadly spread NIL $$. I kind of expect a move toward parity, and moving past the covid 5th yr seniors will accentuate that, I hope. |
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Post by slxpress on Feb 20, 2023 11:22:13 GMT -5
To be a bit cynical about this. Stanford will get their players. Nebraska and Texas will compete for the rest of the players. Once that dust has settled - the remaining players go to their option B and is mostly in the mix among about 12-15 programs. Once that is settled - the rest of D1 compete for the rest. So, really at this stage, it is who is likely to go to Stanford and how many scholarships does Nebraska and Texas have available for the 2025's and they duke it out for who they want. I think this is historically true for Stanford and NE. Not so sure going forward. NIL is having a big impact. That seems to favor the top NIL schools which the last I heard were NE, TX and WI, alphabetically ordered. Not sure about Stanford, have not heard much, that might hurt their recruiting draw. In addition to historical success of the program, Stanford's draw IMO has been the value of their degree, that will be a draw for many SAs but not all. Depends on their career goals. TX has always been a great at recruiting outstanding athletes, particularly at OH and MB. Expect that to continue. Sheffield at WI has had great success building great teams around 1 or 2 very tall players and developing those players. WI is likely 1st choice for players 6'8" or higher, and with good reason. WI has been good a developing players at all positions. And then add in NIL. NE recruiting success is deserved based on player development history and NIL. NE will continue to be a high choice for many SAs. However, there are several new coaches in the B1G that will likely appeal to many SAs, including MN, OSU & PSU. Then there is the growing popularity of WVB, which provides more high level HS athletes and more broadly spread NIL $$. I kind of expect a move toward parity, and moving past the covid 5th yr seniors will accentuate that, I hope. Well, like you’re saying, the biggest thing that helps parity is the growing talent pool. But NIL most definitely doesn’t increase parity. At least in the long run. It simply provides a different vector for there to be a lack of parity. I did enjoy USD’s run this past season. That was a heck of a lot of fun to follow. |
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Post by ay2013 on Feb 20, 2023 12:38:21 GMT -5
To be a bit cynical about this. Stanford will get their players. Nebraska and Texas will compete for the rest of the players. Once that dust has settled - the remaining players go to their option B and is mostly in the mix among about 12-15 programs. Once that is settled - the rest of D1 compete for the rest. So, really at this stage, it is who is likely to go to Stanford and how many scholarships does Nebraska and Texas have available for the 2025's and they duke it out for who they want. I think this is historically true for Stanford and NE. Not so sure going forward. WI is likely 1st choice for players 6'8" or higher, and with good reason. WI has been good a developing players at all positions. And then add in NIL. So you think that because Wisconsin struck gold with Rettke, that means that all other 6’8+ players are putting Wisconsin first? Not that there are that many skilled 6’8 players to begin with, but this seems to miss the mark. Future recruits are probably smart enough to know that Wisconsin isn’t the only program that can develop tall players. They also have a history of NOT developing tall players. Just like having success with Carlini and Hilley (who already came in to college as the top setting recruits) doesn’t mean the program will always churn out elite setters. Last years team, for example, when the programs TWO 3+ year roster veterans still weren’t good enough to run the show at an elite level. |
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Post by rjaege on Feb 20, 2023 12:51:31 GMT -5
I think this is historically true for Stanford and NE. Not so sure going forward. WI is likely 1st choice for players 6'8" or higher, and with good reason. WI has been good a developing players at all positions. And then add in NIL. So you think that because Wisconsin struck gold with Rettke, that means that all other 6’8+ players are putting Wisconsin first? Not that there are that many skilled 6’8 players to begin with, but this seems to miss the mark. Future recruits are probably smart enough to know that Wisconsin isn’t the only program that can develop tall players. They also have a history of NOT developing tall players. Just like having success with Carlini and Hilley (who already came in to college as the top setting recruits) doesn’t mean the program will always churn out elite setters. Last years team, for example, when the programs TWO 3+ year roster veterans still weren’t good enough to run the show at an elite level. Time will tell but right now WI is probably the tallest collegiate team and is having a lot of success both on the court and recruiting. |
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Post by ay2013 on Feb 20, 2023 20:52:28 GMT -5
From what I’ve seen, Spears is good out of system as well. Well, he didn't say she was bad at OOS. Just thinks Demaria is better at it. Right, BOTH are exceptional players for 2025. Also, grain of salt, I'm basing it off what I recall from two seasons ago when they were 14's and when Spears got some courtime with the U19 team during Pan Am. |
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