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Post by brooselee on Aug 2, 2023 15:45:36 GMT -5
Yes definitely. If the twelve schools from the MWC was to leave, each would owe 34 million each. 12 x 34 mil equals one gazillion so yeah….better to bring in WSU and OSU. The question would be….where would the money go if every team decide to leave the MWC since no conference will exist? I don't think this is how it work. The Mountain West would dissolve, and the schools would join the PAC with no exit fee (if that was the road taken). In general, the PAC would have way more value than the Mountain West - so all schools would be better off moving to the PAC. But if it was just those last two - I think the value would be so low it no longer would be worth salvaging the PAC. Not so sure it will dissolve. The money will be collected and probably be paid back to the network who invested millions into the league. There is no way the networks will not collect if these schools were to leave. A contract is a contract. Every school would be on the hook . It’s not like the schools have shut down their football program. They will move to another conference. It’s like you signing a contract with your employer then leaving before your contract expires and work for another from. Your former employer is entitled to collect money owed if agreed upon.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 2, 2023 15:50:20 GMT -5
I don't think this is how it work. The Mountain West would dissolve, and the schools would join the PAC with no exit fee (if that was the road taken). In general, the PAC would have way more value than the Mountain West - so all schools would be better off moving to the PAC. But if it was just those last two - I think the value would be so low it no longer would be worth salvaging the PAC. Not so sure it will dissolve. The money will be collected and probably be paid back to the network who invested millions into the league. There is no way the networks will not collect if these schools were to leave. A contract is a contract. Every school would be on the hook . It’s not like the schools have shut down their football program. They will move to another conference. It’s like you signing a contract with your employer then leaving before your contract expires and work for another from. Your former employer is entitled to collect money owed if agreed upon. LOL no. The schools didn't sign a contract with the network, the conference did.
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Post by bluepenquin on Aug 2, 2023 15:50:45 GMT -5
I don't think this is how it work. The Mountain West would dissolve, and the schools would join the PAC with no exit fee (if that was the road taken). In general, the PAC would have way more value than the Mountain West - so all schools would be better off moving to the PAC. But if it was just those last two - I think the value would be so low it no longer would be worth salvaging the PAC. Not so sure it will dissolve. The money will be collected and probably be paid back to the network who invested millions into the league. There is no way the networks will not collect if these schools were to leave. A contract is a contract. Every school would be on the hook . It’s not like the schools have shut down their football program. They will move to another conference. It’s like you signing a contract with your employer then leaving before your contract expires and work for another from. Your former employer is entitled to collect money owed if agreed upon. Well - I did skip about 100+ steps from A to B. I am just saying it could be done. IDK who the TV contract is with for the Mtn West (and that plays a huge part in this) - but I would imagine a deal would be done with them involved. The newly formed conference will need some kind of TV contract.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 2, 2023 16:14:02 GMT -5
Either they will move to the Mountain West or most/all of the MWC will become the new Pac12. I think it's easier to move 2 teams, than 12. The PAC brand is more valuable than the Mountain West brand. If they merge, I predict that they keep the PAC name.
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Post by brooselee on Aug 2, 2023 16:16:55 GMT -5
Not so sure it will dissolve. The money will be collected and probably be paid back to the network who invested millions into the league. There is no way the networks will not collect if these schools were to leave. A contract is a contract. Every school would be on the hook . It’s not like the schools have shut down their football program. They will move to another conference. It’s like you signing a contract with your employer then leaving before your contract expires and work for another from. Your former employer is entitled to collect money owed if agreed upon. LOL no. The schools didn't sign a contract with the network, the conference did. Same thing. The “everybody quit time at one so nobody’s in trouble” routine probably won’t work here. Contracts were signed. Even if nobody is left, the TV will collect before the conference dissolves.
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Post by brooselee on Aug 2, 2023 16:19:21 GMT -5
I think it's easier to move 2 teams, than 12. The PAC brand is more valuable than the Mountain West brand. If they merge, I predict that they keep the PAC name. I disagree but let’s leave it there. PAC fans will think it’s worth the trouble to rebrand. Non PAC will think otherwise so….
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 2, 2023 16:20:35 GMT -5
LOL no. The schools didn't sign a contract with the network, the conference did. Same thing. The “everybody quit time at one so nobody’s in trouble” routine probably won’t work here. Contracts were signed. Even if nobody is left, the TV will collect before the conference dissolves. No, just no.
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Post by vbct3 on Aug 2, 2023 16:49:23 GMT -5
also, a question might become: what value is Oregon State and Washington State to the Mountain West. How much are they even worth, not being part of the Pac-12. It would make the Mountain West truly the only western conference."Western" conferences: WCC, Big West "Western-ish" conferences: Mountain West, Big Sky (?), WAC
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Post by lionsfan on Aug 2, 2023 16:55:00 GMT -5
So, given how things are going, what do the Oregon, Washington and Stanford fans on here hope happens with their schools?
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Post by midnightblue on Aug 2, 2023 17:02:44 GMT -5
So, given how things are going, what do the Oregon, Washington and Stanford fans on here hope happens with their schools? I mean... no one wants to be left behind in a conference that's imploding. The B1G want Oregon/Washington sooner or later. Stanford is not a priority. Some might think it odd that the best athletics / academics school in the country is an afterthought, but this is a game of revenue first and foremost. I think the B1G would like Stanford at some point so it'll be interesting to see how things shake out. A B1G west coast of USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Oregon and Washington wouldn't suck.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Aug 2, 2023 17:07:00 GMT -5
If there's one good thing to come out of all of this, it will be the end of #Pac12Refs
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Post by vbfamily on Aug 2, 2023 17:13:05 GMT -5
So, given how things are going, what do the Oregon, Washington and Stanford fans on here hope happens with their schools? Ugh, I just hate it all. Love the PAC. Grew up in a PAC-10/12 State, kid played at a PAC school...but wherever the Ducks volleyball team lands, I'll just cheer for them. Since this is all about Football, I really wish they'd make a Football super conference (or two) and leave the other sports alone. But that ship has sailed...
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Post by saywho on Aug 2, 2023 17:16:02 GMT -5
So, given how things are going, what do the Oregon, Washington and Stanford fans on here hope happens with their schools? As a Stanford fan, I personally would love Stanford to be a part of the B1G from a purely sports perspective. It's a great conference that is solid in pretty much all sports. Stanford is solid in sports across the board, and I would love to have the competition that is in the B1G for all of our athletic programs. It also would open up recruiting in the midwest a bit more, I think. But most importantly, I think it would bring needed long term stability. I also grew up in B1G territory, and then migrated to CA to attend Stanford and lived there since. So, I feel like half my life I was watching B1G sports and half PAC; so, joining forces would kind of be a nice personal combination.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 2, 2023 17:19:05 GMT -5
So, given how things are going, what do the Oregon, Washington and Stanford fans on here hope happens with their schools? Ugh, I just hate it all. Love the PAC. Grew up in a PAC-10/12 State, kid played at a PAC school...but wherever the Ducks volleyball team lands, I'll just cheer for them. Since this is all about Football, I really wish they'd make a Football super conference (or two) and leave the other sports alone. But that ship has sailed... 100%. I suggested this a while ago. Just have some national conference for football and perhaps mens basketball, and truly regional conferences for all the other sports, which then play each other in the non-conference and NCAA tournament. People may care that Oregon and Ohio State play each other in football during the regular season. Nobody cares who wins a tennis match between those same two schools.
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Post by chibadgerfan on Aug 2, 2023 17:22:31 GMT -5
I think it's easier to move 2 teams, than 12. The PAC brand is more valuable than the Mountain West brand. If they merge, I predict that they keep the PAC name. How about the Pacific and Mountain Athletic Conference (P-MAC)
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