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Post by luckydawg on Aug 16, 2023 16:06:01 GMT -5
"A professor on his campus ..." means it wasn't Washington.
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Post by baytree on Aug 16, 2023 17:38:32 GMT -5
"A professor on his campus ..." means it wasn't Washington. Or Cal. When I read that, my first thought was "please let it be someone other than Foster or some other Stanford prof. We've have enough bad publicity with Silicon Valley Bank,Mark Tessier-LaVigne, and Samuel Bankman Fried." It doesn't really matter who it was bc the presidents should have listened to the experts in the PAC telling them mid thirties (or maybe high thirties) instead of a professor. But I still hope it wasn't a Stanford prof.
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Post by tomclen on Aug 16, 2023 21:06:26 GMT -5
USC may be the #1 villain in this fiasco. But UW might be close behind.
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Post by luckydawg on Aug 16, 2023 21:52:43 GMT -5
USC may be the #1 villain in this fiasco. But UW might be close behind. An out after two years is borderline meaningless. Where would a school go at that point? If Apple really believed the deal would be worth over $30m, why didn't they just offer it? Even if the deal eventually came close in value, at best it puts Pac schools at less than half the revenues of Big and SEC, with the gap widening. Add in the near invisibility of broadcasts (must have an Apple+ subscription) and it was not a difficult decision.
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 16, 2023 22:22:38 GMT -5
I don't know if they shouldn't have taken it, but the schools are probably right not to trust Apple - especially with an out clause like that. That actually creates potential for disincentives as well as incentives depending on how things are going. Apple can take the hit. The universities can't. Phil Knight still thinks a university can act like Nike, and it really can't.
I'm just realizing I know Carol Folt professionally. Interesting. I guess it makes sense she is a university president. I guess.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 17, 2023 2:09:40 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter who it was bc the presidents should have listened to the experts in the PAC telling them mid thirties (or maybe high thirties) instead of a professor. But I still hope it wasn't a Stanford prof. Stanford might be worth $50 million/yr - if it was in the B1G. If that is the ultimate goal, with or without Cal, that could explain why they would throw sand in the gears...
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Post by baytree on Aug 17, 2023 9:30:37 GMT -5
It doesn't really matter who it was bc the presidents should have listened to the experts in the PAC telling them mid thirties (or maybe high thirties) instead of a professor. But I still hope it wasn't a Stanford prof. Stanford might be worth $50 million/yr - if it was in the B1G. If that is the ultimate goal, with or without Cal, that could explain why they would throw sand in the gears... I doubt that Stanford is worth $50M to the B1G but who knows. Supposedly, every team talked to the B1G after USC and UCLA went there. But Stanford never seemed to pursue that. It was frustrating to me. Why did they wait until this week to have Condeleezza Rice and Jerry Yang lobby on their behalf? It's possible that both (and others) were lobbying hard before and Stanford just made a public announcement this week but all the reports were that Stanford was trying to decide what to do and did not aggressively pursue any option, partly bc they really wanted the PAC to stay together but partly bc they were not sure if they wanted to invest more in sports, treat athletes as employees, be connected to pay for play, or favor athletes in admissions to the degree they have. I don't think Mark Tessier-Lavigne is interested in sports. Neither was Drell (the provost). And Stanford's big whale for sports died in Jan 2022. He would have taken the lead on a lot of stuff.
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Post by tomclen on Aug 17, 2023 10:03:15 GMT -5
If the PAC wasn't already dead to me, having Condoleezza Rice involved takes the (yellow) cake.
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Post by baytree on Aug 17, 2023 10:08:09 GMT -5
If the PAC wasn't already dead to me, having Condoleezza Rice involved takes the (yellow) cake. She was Stanford's provost in the 1990s. I'm sure she was involved then.
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 17, 2023 10:25:31 GMT -5
Stanford might be worth $50 million/yr - if it was in the B1G. If that is the ultimate goal, with or without Cal, that could explain why they would throw sand in the gears... I doubt that Stanford is worth $50M to the B1G but who knows. Supposedly, every team talked to the B1G after USC and UCLA went there. But Stanford never seemed to pursue that. It was frustrating to me. Why did they wait until this week to have Condeleezza Rice and Jerry Yang lobby on their behalf? It's possible that both (and others) were lobbying hard before and Stanford just made a public announcement this week but all the reports were that Stanford was trying to decide what to do and did not aggressively pursue any option, partly bc they really wanted the PAC to stay together but partly bc they were not sure if they wanted to invest more in sports, treat athletes as employees, be connected to pay for play, or favor athletes in admissions to the degree they have. I don't think Mark Tessier-Lavigne is interested in sports. Neither was Drell (the provost). And Stanford's big whale for sports died in Jan 2022. He would have taken the lead on a lot of stuff. Who are you referring to? I'm drawing a blank.
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Post by baytree on Aug 17, 2023 10:31:12 GMT -5
I doubt that Stanford is worth $50M to the B1G but who knows. Supposedly, every team talked to the B1G after USC and UCLA went there. But Stanford never seemed to pursue that. It was frustrating to me. Why did they wait until this week to have Condeleezza Rice and Jerry Yang lobby on their behalf? It's possible that both (and others) were lobbying hard before and Stanford just made a public announcement this week but all the reports were that Stanford was trying to decide what to do and did not aggressively pursue any option, partly bc they really wanted the PAC to stay together but partly bc they were not sure if they wanted to invest more in sports, treat athletes as employees, be connected to pay for play, or favor athletes in admissions to the degree they have. I don't think Mark Tessier-Lavigne is interested in sports. Neither was Drell (the provost). And Stanford's big whale for sports died in Jan 2022. He would have taken the lead on a lot of stuff. Who are you referring to? I'm drawing a blank. John Arrillaga
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Post by bbg95 on Aug 17, 2023 10:38:31 GMT -5
Who are you referring to? I'm drawing a blank. John Arrillaga Thank you. I don't believe I am familiar with Mr. Arrilaga. Silicon Valley real estate investor, apparently.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 17, 2023 10:38:43 GMT -5
Who are you referring to? I'm drawing a blank. John Arrillaga He sounds like a fascinating guy. His daughter married Marc Andreesen, too.
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Post by slxpress on Aug 17, 2023 10:51:31 GMT -5
Stanford might be worth $50 million/yr - if it was in the B1G. If that is the ultimate goal, with or without Cal, that could explain why they would throw sand in the gears... I doubt that Stanford is worth $50M to the B1G but who knows. Supposedly, every team talked to the B1G after USC and UCLA went there. But Stanford never seemed to pursue that. It was frustrating to me. Why did they wait until this week to have Condeleezza Rice and Jerry Yang lobby on their behalf? It's possible that both (and others) were lobbying hard before and Stanford just made a public announcement this week but all the reports were that Stanford was trying to decide what to do and did not aggressively pursue any option, partly bc they really wanted the PAC to stay together but partly bc they were not sure if they wanted to invest more in sports, treat athletes as employees, be connected to pay for play, or favor athletes in admissions to the degree they have. I don't think Mark Tessier-Lavigne is interested in sports. Neither was Drell (the provost). And Stanford's big whale for sports died in Jan 2022. He would have taken the lead on a lot of stuff. I would add to that they want an association with an athletic conference whose members have a strong reputation in academics as well as athletics. Preferably fellow research institutions. They’ve boxed themselves in in terms of options. That’s not a critique. The heart wants what the heart wants. But it’s not an enviable position to be in. I realize Arrilaga was a unique individual, and he likely sucked a lot of oxygen out of the room in terms of athletic department assistance, but given the immense wealth of Stanford alums, is there seemingly no one wanting to fill the vacuum? Of course, they won’t have the gravitas that Arrilaga did. That’s a big part of what Stanford loses with his loss. If he stated a position people would naturally bend to his will because he’s John Arrilaga. That’s not something easily earned.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Aug 17, 2023 14:46:09 GMT -5
Stanford might be worth $50 million/yr - if it was in the B1G. If that is the ultimate goal, with or without Cal, that could explain why they would throw sand in the gears... I doubt that Stanford is worth $50M to the B1G but who knows. Supposedly, every team talked to the B1G after USC and UCLA went there. But Stanford never seemed to pursue that. It was frustrating to me. Why did they wait until this week to have Condeleezza Rice and Jerry Yang lobby on their behalf? It's possible that both (and others) were lobbying hard before and Stanford just made a public announcement this week but all the reports were that Stanford was trying to decide what to do and did not aggressively pursue any option, partly bc they really wanted the PAC to stay together but partly bc they were not sure if they wanted to invest more in sports, treat athletes as employees, be connected to pay for play, or favor athletes in admissions to the degree they have. I don't think Mark Tessier-Lavigne is interested in sports. Neither was Drell (the provost). And Stanford's big whale for sports died in Jan 2022. He would have taken the lead on a lot of stuff. Yeah, but did they want to get themselves tied down to a "bad" deal, when B1G and SEC schools were making double that. Do they really want to be Snow White to the Seven Dwarfs? Personally, I think the B1G completing the TriFecta by expanding to the Bay Area is a no-brainer - it just isn't clear whether Stanford comes in with ND or Cal.
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