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Post by 25or624 on Jun 17, 2023 19:11:34 GMT -5
"And of those, Nebraska is tops right now."
I'd like to see some lively discussion around the other piece of the puzzle, i.e., what are the "next level" programs achieving with these stellar recruiting classes? Ideally, legacy shouldn't be a major part of the discussion; it's a given in this context. For recency purposes, if we look at the last 5 years, Texas has been very successful, Standford has had its share of success and Nebraska has been shut-out in terms of conference and national titles.
I will now duck and cover as I await the incoming nukes.
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Post by rjaege on Jun 17, 2023 20:51:45 GMT -5
"And of those, Nebraska is tops right now." I'd like to see some lively discussion around the other piece of the puzzle, i.e., what are the "next level" programs achieving with these stellar recruiting classes? Ideally, legacy shouldn't be a major part of the discussion; it's a given in this context. For recency purposes, if we look at the last 5 years, Texas has been very successful, Standford has had its share of success and Nebraska has been shut-out in terms of conference and national titles. I will now duck and cover as I await the incoming nukes. WI having big impact on NE's lack of success. Somehow WI recruiting success is being short changed or overlooked. WI was big winner in the transfer portal earlier this year. They will likely do well with the 25's as well. Not sure why folks are leaving them out when talking NE, TX and Stanford recruiting prowess. WI recruiting has been excellent for last 5 years and W-L record reflects and verifies that |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2023 20:59:16 GMT -5
Iowa announcing a commit. Sounds like from Oklahoma.
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Post by slxpress on Jun 17, 2023 21:52:39 GMT -5
"And of those, Nebraska is tops right now." I'd like to see some lively discussion around the other piece of the puzzle, i.e., what are the "next level" programs achieving with these stellar recruiting classes? Ideally, legacy shouldn't be a major part of the discussion; it's a given in this context. For recency purposes, if we look at the last 5 years, Texas has been very successful, Standford has had its share of success and Nebraska has been shut-out in terms of conference and national titles. I will now duck and cover as I await the incoming nukes. WI having big impact on NE's lack of success. Somehow WI recruiting success is being short changed or overlooked. WI was big winner in the transfer portal earlier this year. They will likely do well with the 25's as well. Not sure why folks are leaving them out when talking NE, TX and Stanford recruiting prowess. WI recruiting has been excellent for last 5 years and W-L record reflects and verifies that I’m talking specifically about the competition regarding talent acquisition. This is a recruiting thread. Louisville and Pitt have made two Final Fours in a row. Are they recruiting powerhouses? To an extent, yes. Is Minnesota a recruiting powerhouse? Sure. But how many head to head recruiting battles are any of these programs winning versus Nebraska, Stanford, and Texas. Either in the high school ranks, or for Nebraska and Texas, in the portal. I just know as a Texas fan, the only programs that give me much concern in a head to head recruiting battle are Nebraska and Stanford. And I bet most Cornhusker fans who follow recruiting would feel similarly. It doesn’t mean Wisconsin doesn’t recruit well. They obviously do, both for high school players and in the portal. But they don’t win head to head battles against those three. Certainly not very often. Being able to attract talent is simply part of the puzzle. It’s an important part. Even a critical part. But there’s roster construction, talent development, staying injury free, running a successful system, et al.. I don’t even understand what there is to debate about. Tell me all the players Wisconsin has brought in that chose the Badgers over Stanford, Nebraska, and Texas, either from high school or the portal. Maybe I’m missing something and I’m being completely ignorant, and Sheffield has a string of recruiting victories against those schools I was simply unaware of. I’m not trying to bash Wisconsin. I said previously they’re probably the best of the rest, but until they start beating Nebraska and Texas for recruits in head to head battles, they’re not on the same level when it comes to recruiting. That’s not about their accomplishments on the court, or how they compare in head to head clashes. That’s a different discussion. |
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Post by dodger on Jun 17, 2023 22:03:20 GMT -5
WI having big impact on NE's lack of success. Somehow WI recruiting success is being short changed or overlooked. WI was big winner in the transfer portal earlier this year. They will likely do well with the 25's as well. Not sure why folks are leaving them out when talking NE, TX and Stanford recruiting prowess. WI recruiting has been excellent for last 5 years and W-L record reflects and verifies that I’m talking specifically about the competition regarding talent acquisition. This is a recruiting thread. Louisville and Pitt have made two Final Fours in a row. Are they recruiting powerhouses? To an extent, yes. Is Minnesota a recruiting powerhouse? Sure. But how many head to head recruiting battles are any of these programs winning versus Nebraska, Stanford, and Texas. Either in the high school ranks, or for Nebraska and Texas, in the portal. I just know as a Texas fan, the only programs that give me much concern in a head to head recruiting battle are Nebraska and Stanford. And I bet most Cornhusker fans who follow recruiting would feel similarly. It doesn’t mean Wisconsin doesn’t recruit well. They obviously do, both for high school players and in the portal. But they don’t win head to head battles against those three. Certainly not very often. Being able to attract talent is simply part of the puzzle. It’s an important part. Even a critical part. But there’s roster construction, talent development, staying injury free, running a successful system, et al.. I don’t even understand what there is to debate about. Tell me all the players Wisconsin has brought in that chose the Badgers over Stanford, Nebraska, and Texas, either from high school or the portal. Maybe I’m missing something and I’m being completely ignorant, and Sheffield has a string of recruiting victories against those schools I was simply unaware of. I’m not trying to bash Wisconsin. I said previously they’re probably the best of the rest, but until they start beating Nebraska and Texas for recruits in head to head battles, they’re not on the same level when it comes to recruiting. That’s not about their accomplishments on the court, or how they compare in head to head clashes. That’s a different discussion. How would we find or know who each institution talked or recruited: head to head? Carlini? I dont know?? Do you know the head to heads? Stanford entrance and texas entrance requirements very very different? Really as i type going hesd to head faitly riducules discussion: sorry i chimed : resume debate |
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Post by 25or624 on Jun 17, 2023 23:31:48 GMT -5
"I’m not trying to bash Wisconsin. I said previously they’re probably the best of the rest, but until they start beating Nebraska and Texas for recruits in head to head battles, they’re not on the same level when it comes to recruiting. That’s not about their accomplishments on the court, or how they compare in head to head clashes. That’s a different discussion."
Well, if you put it all together, the goal is to win. If a program,e.g., has better recruiting, the best "culture", the best coach etc, but loses 10 matches in a row to the "inferior" team, I know which team I'm picking. Win the recruiting battle, lose the championship wars is pointless.
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Post by slxpress on Jun 17, 2023 23:53:27 GMT -5
"I’m not trying to bash Wisconsin. I said previously they’re probably the best of the rest, but until they start beating Nebraska and Texas for recruits in head to head battles, they’re not on the same level when it comes to recruiting. That’s not about their accomplishments on the court, or how they compare in head to head clashes. That’s a different discussion." Well, if you put it all together, the goal is to win. If a program,e.g., has better recruiting, the best "culture", the best coach etc, but loses 10 matches in a row to the "inferior" team, I know which team I'm picking. Win the recruiting battle, lose the championship wars is pointless. It may be pointless, but they’re still separate metrics for me. Which metric is more important? That’s obvious. Conference titles. National titles. Head to head battles on the court. But it doesn’t make the other metric somehow not exist. Since this is a recruiting thread, I’m focusing on recruiting as a metric. And in head to head recruiting battles Wisconsin doesn’t measure up to Nebraska, Texas, and Stanford, IMO. That’s not a static measurement. I would have included Penn State in that group at one time. If Wisconsin starts beating those teams in head to head recruiting battles, I’ll change my opinion. I’ve already pointed out Pitt and Louisville have made two Final Fours in a row apiece. Who cares if they did that by outrecruiting Texas and Nebraska head to head? That’s not the ultimate goal. Nonetheless, there’s little indication if a player is considering Nebraska and Pitt, or Texas and Louisville, that player is going to choose Pitt or Louisville. Or Wisconsin. |
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Post by rjaege on Jun 17, 2023 23:58:11 GMT -5
WI having big impact on NE's lack of success. Somehow WI recruiting success is being short changed or overlooked. WI was big winner in the transfer portal earlier this year. They will likely do well with the 25's as well. Not sure why folks are leaving them out when talking NE, TX and Stanford recruiting prowess. WI recruiting has been excellent for last 5 years and W-L record reflects and verifies that I’m talking specifically about the competition regarding talent acquisition. This is a recruiting thread. Louisville and Pitt have made two Final Fours in a row. Are they recruiting powerhouses? To an extent, yes. Is Minnesota a recruiting powerhouse? Sure. But how many head to head recruiting battles are any of these programs winning versus Nebraska, Stanford, and Texas. Either in the high school ranks, or for Nebraska and Texas, in the portal. I just know as a Texas fan, the only programs that give me much concern in a head to head recruiting battle are Nebraska and Stanford. And I bet most Cornhusker fans who follow recruiting would feel similarly. It doesn’t mean Wisconsin doesn’t recruit well. They obviously do, both for high school players and in the portal. But they don’t win head to head battles against those three. Certainly not very often. Being able to attract talent is simply part of the puzzle. It’s an important part. Even a critical part. But there’s roster construction, talent development, staying injury free, running a successful system, et al.. I don’t even understand what there is to debate about. Tell me all the players Wisconsin has brought in that chose the Badgers over Stanford, Nebraska, and Texas, either from high school or the portal. Maybe I’m missing something and I’m being completely ignorant, and Sheffield has a string of recruiting victories against those schools I was simply unaware of. I’m not trying to bash Wisconsin. I said previously they’re probably the best of the rest, but until they start beating Nebraska and Texas for recruits in head to head battles, they’re not on the same level when it comes to recruiting. That’s not about their accomplishments on the court, or how they compare in head to head clashes. That’s a different discussion. Or maybe Sheffield is a better judge of talent than others. IDK. |
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Post by slxpress on Jun 18, 2023 0:01:44 GMT -5
I’m talking specifically about the competition regarding talent acquisition. This is a recruiting thread. Louisville and Pitt have made two Final Fours in a row. Are they recruiting powerhouses? To an extent, yes. Is Minnesota a recruiting powerhouse? Sure. But how many head to head recruiting battles are any of these programs winning versus Nebraska, Stanford, and Texas. Either in the high school ranks, or for Nebraska and Texas, in the portal. I just know as a Texas fan, the only programs that give me much concern in a head to head recruiting battle are Nebraska and Stanford. And I bet most Cornhusker fans who follow recruiting would feel similarly. It doesn’t mean Wisconsin doesn’t recruit well. They obviously do, both for high school players and in the portal. But they don’t win head to head battles against those three. Certainly not very often. Being able to attract talent is simply part of the puzzle. It’s an important part. Even a critical part. But there’s roster construction, talent development, staying injury free, running a successful system, et al.. I don’t even understand what there is to debate about. Tell me all the players Wisconsin has brought in that chose the Badgers over Stanford, Nebraska, and Texas, either from high school or the portal. Maybe I’m missing something and I’m being completely ignorant, and Sheffield has a string of recruiting victories against those schools I was simply unaware of. I’m not trying to bash Wisconsin. I said previously they’re probably the best of the rest, but until they start beating Nebraska and Texas for recruits in head to head battles, they’re not on the same level when it comes to recruiting. That’s not about their accomplishments on the court, or how they compare in head to head clashes. That’s a different discussion. Or maybe Sheffield is a better judge of talent than others. IDK. Absolutely. Maybe if you switched Nebraska and Wisconsin’s rosters he’d still be beating the pants off John Cook. But that’s not my point. My point is that Nebraska gets first dibs on who they want to construct a roster with for the most part. |
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Post by GoGophs on Jun 18, 2023 11:05:10 GMT -5
Iowa announcing a commit. Sounds like from Oklahoma. Really rooting for Barnes to get some good recruits and elevate the program! |
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Post by n00b on Jun 18, 2023 11:12:01 GMT -5
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Post by kneepain on Jun 18, 2023 11:17:12 GMT -5
Looks like Penn State just got a commit.
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Post by badgerguru on Jun 18, 2023 11:37:04 GMT -5
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Post by blackiechan1999 on Jun 18, 2023 11:48:10 GMT -5
Malorie boesiger liked it. She would be a good back up for Fuerbringer. |
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Post by huskervolleyfan14 on Jun 18, 2023 11:50:30 GMT -5
Malorie boesiger liked it. She would be a good back up for Fuerbringer. she’s a 2027 |
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