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Post by JJVb on Jun 16, 2023 0:24:24 GMT -5
Let's get a 2023 thread going, now that schedules are rolling out. So, who wins the PAC this year? Do we think teams have scheduled strong enough preseason schedules?
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Post by JJVb on Jun 16, 2023 0:28:22 GMT -5
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 16, 2023 1:24:33 GMT -5
Look, sans major injury, if Stanford doesn't win the Pac-12 this year, Hambly gotta go.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 16, 2023 1:26:27 GMT -5
IMO I think the Pac-12 shakes out as follows:
1- Stanford 2- Washington State 3- Oregon 4- USC 5- Arizona 6- Colorado 7- Washington 8- UCLA 9- Utah 10- ASU 11- OSU 12- Cal
WSU, Oregon, USC can be interchangeable / Arizona, Colorado, Washington, UCLA can be interchangeable
I generally like what the projected middle conference schools did with their non-conference, and as long as they don't take losses to Utah, ASU, OSU, Cal, the Pac could be a 7/8 bid conference this year, but I also wouldn't be surprised to see it as 4/5 bid conference.
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Post by JJVb on Jun 16, 2023 1:28:46 GMT -5
Look, sands major injury, if Stanford doesn't win the Pac-12 this year, Hambly gotta go. Yeah, it is really theirs to take. I only see a couple of teams possibly challenging them for it, and that's UO and WSU. I think there are some other solid teams, but not sure they will challenge for the title.
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Post by JJVb on Jun 16, 2023 1:32:04 GMT -5
IMO I think the Pac-12 shakes out as follows: 1- Stanford 2- Washington State 3- Oregon 4- USC 5- Arizona 6- Colorado 7- Washington 8- UCLA 9- Utah 10- ASU 11- OSU 12- Cal Yeah, mine is close to that, but I'll go: 1-Stanford 2-WSU 3-Oregon 4-USC 5-WA 6-UCLA 7-Arizona 8-COL 9-Utah 10-OSU 11-ASU 12-CAL
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 16, 2023 1:44:28 GMT -5
IMO I think the Pac-12 shakes out as follows: 1- Stanford 2- Washington State 3- Oregon 4- USC 5- Arizona 6- Colorado 7- Washington 8- UCLA 9- Utah 10- ASU 11- OSU 12- Cal Yeah, mine is close to that, but I'll go: 1-Stanford 2-WSU 3-Oregon 4-USC 5-WA 6-UCLA 7-Arizona 8-COL 9-Utah 10-OSU 11-ASU 12-CAL
Fair. Among the 5 - 8 range, I have Washington at 7 because I think among those teams, they have the biggest unknown in the passing rotation and I don't think UCLA has the arms, and at the end of the day, among this tier of conference teams, players that can put ball away are the most valuable. Arizona has a team that should have been better last year than they were and I'm thinking that old Rubio was the hold up - new era, new opportunity to show that they have a roster that can be a second-round NCAA quality team. IMO Rubio is like Carlston at OSU and Haley at USC, it was time for a change. Colorado returns a lot.
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Post by azcatsfan on Jun 16, 2023 2:25:36 GMT -5
My predictions are:
1. Stanford 2. WSU 3. Oregon 4. Colorado 5. USC 6. Washington 7. Arizona 8. UCLA 9. Utah 10. ASU 11. Oregon St 12. Cal
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Post by JJVb on Jun 16, 2023 4:02:54 GMT -5
Yeah, mine is close to that, but I'll go: 1-Stanford 2-WSU 3-Oregon 4-USC 5-WA 6-UCLA 7-Arizona 8-COL 9-Utah 10-OSU 11-ASU 12-CAL
Fair. Among the 5 - 8 range, I have Washington at 7 because I think among those teams, they have the biggest unknown in the passing rotation and I don't think UCLA has the arms, and at the end of the day, among this tier of conference teams, players that can put ball away are the most valuable. Arizona has a team that should have been better last year than they were and I'm thinking that old Rubio was the hold up - new era, new opportunity to show that they have a roster that can be a second-round NCAA quality team. IMO Rubio is like Carlston at OSU and Haley at USC, it was time for a change. Colorado returns a lot. Yeah, 5-8 range are close. My reasoning for COL being lower, is that they do not have a returning libero, nor a returning starting DS, so backrow will be a challenge. UCLA is in the same boat with ? in the backrow. True, that WA has some ? regarding passing OH's, but they are returning their libero, and a tranfer starter DS. They are more of a ? with setter and middle. Arizona is just a huge ?. They have some returning and transferring OH strength, but not many of them are solid passing OHs. Their libero/DS is very up in the air, but they have some promising options. Middle and setting are also both ? I see the teams in the 5-8 range beating up on each other, but I'm not sure they really can beat the top 4 in my opinion. We will see.
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Post by edlake on Jun 19, 2023 18:35:52 GMT -5
I believe Washington will play above their weight at times because that's who Tui is. However, having no experience at middle and hoping they can pass better than last year will make it a challenge. 6, 7, 8 makes sense to me.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 19, 2023 18:45:25 GMT -5
I believe Washington will play above their weight at times because that's who Tui is. However, having no experience at middle and hoping they can pass better than last year will make it a challenge. 6, 7, 8 makes sense to me. Perhaps, I still like Colorado and Arizonas team composition a bit better next year than Washington’s, but it’s because we have so many unknowns. I will say that I think Washington could be as high as 4 or 5 simply based on having WSU as a travel partner. Utah and ASU are going to do no favors for Colorado and Arizona in terms of the schedule.
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Post by potato518 on Jun 19, 2023 20:11:36 GMT -5
Pre-Season awards picks? POY - SOY - LOY - FOY - COY -
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jun 19, 2023 20:42:32 GMT -5
Pre-Season awards picks? POY - SOY - LOY - FOY - COY - what’s hilarious is Stanford could possibly sweep these and I wouldn’t blink (they wouldn’t let that happen but still) I have to think Oglivie gets LOY. Miner is the favorite for SOY of course, but Pukis will give her a hell of a run, ESPECIALLY if Kipp gets POY, who is probably the early favorite? I’m guessing either Kipp gets POY and Pukis gets SOY or the field (lol pun also intended) gets POY and then Miner would get SOY. FOY is hard… someone would have to remind me what freshmen are likely to be 6ro players. Maybe Barbero if she beats Basham out for libero at WSU. If a Stanford outside (Blyashov mostly) beats out Baird, then they’d be a favorite. I’m forgetting people I’m sure. COY I’ll give to Jen with a #2 finish this year. If WSU finishes below 2 or 3 though, and one of the new coaches overperforms, I could see the Pac coaches giving it to the new one (like Arizona or Oregon State).
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Post by Brutus Buckeye on Jun 19, 2023 20:43:42 GMT -5
Just like Football, the season will end with the Utes sitting atop the Pac 12 scrapheap.
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Post by ay2013 on Jun 19, 2023 21:04:36 GMT -5
FOY is gonna be so interesting. Covid and transfer portal combined with a weaker frosh class really will make next year unpredictable. I knew without a doubt Colyer last year was the clear best freshman hitting the conference and would start on a good team. Next year ummm I feel like you have to go all the way to Mullen at UCLA to find a “likely” candidate.
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