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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 20, 2023 11:51:24 GMT -5
“Another party” funded by noted conservative billionaire and FOC (Friend of Clarence) Harlan Crow. Totally legit. Don't forget Nazi memorabilia enthusiast. And?
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Post by mervinswerved on Jun 20, 2023 11:57:07 GMT -5
Don't forget Nazi memorabilia enthusiast. And? I think it's good to point out that Harlan Crow, a major GOP and Clarence Thomas donor, likes to collect Nazi memorabilia and display it in his house.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jun 20, 2023 12:02:27 GMT -5
“Another party” funded by noted conservative billionaire and FOC (Friend of Clarence) Harlan Crow. Totally legit. What’s the matter, scared to have another voting option? Cowards. Once a cheater always a cheater. A viable third party in American politics could be a good thing in theory. But this "third party" was created and funded by the likes of Crow (when he's not admiring his collection of Third Reich uniforms or buying a supreme court judge), the Murdochs, and big-time Trump benefactor Nelson Peltz with the intention of siphoning off votes from Democratic candidates. Once a cheater, always a cheater, indeed.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jun 20, 2023 12:50:08 GMT -5
Jeff Sachs? Enh. Well, he's not entirely wrong, even if he's overstating his case to a degree. It's the old quote by Churchill (which he was quoting and existed prior to his reference): "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." hbmb10k completely loses sight of that second part in their rush to condemn the US and praise Russia and China.
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 20, 2023 13:21:18 GMT -5
What’s the matter, scared to have another voting option? Cowards. Once a cheater always a cheater. A viable third party in American politics could be a good thing in theory. But this "third party" was created and funded by the likes of Crow (when he's not admiring his collection of Third Reich uniforms or buying a supreme court judge), the Murdochs, and big-time Trump benefactor Nelson Peltz with the intention of siphoning off votes from Democratic candidates. Once a cheater, always a cheater, indeed. oh Gees....I don't understand the weird opinions about collecting war memorabilia. I think many historians are fascinated with collecting history. It doesn't make you a white supremacist and in the same breath you complain about his friendship with Clarence Thomas? A black man? Lord....please make sense. I am fascinated with WW2 and have watched everything I possibly can. The reason I think Nazi memorabilia is so sought after is that after the war they tried to erase all signs of the Nazi party due to the terrible discoveries of what they did. In a sense it was erasing the proof that it really happened which is exactly what you don't want. I would find Nazi items fascinating because they are rare. I think you guys complaining about rich men trying to help their party win is hilarious given that your party are masters at just that. That make you all Soros loving hypocrites. You either hate election interference or you don't? Which is it?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 20, 2023 13:24:03 GMT -5
Jeff Sachs? Enh. Well, he's not entirely wrong, even if he's overstating his case to a degree. It's the old quote by Churchill (which he was quoting and existed prior to his reference): "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." hbmb10k completely loses sight of that second part in their rush to condemn the US and praise Russia and China. praise China...gosh that sounds familiar? The NBA, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Cook from Apple, GM, etc etc etc etc. You are complaining about hbmb10K?
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 20, 2023 13:25:18 GMT -5
I think it's good to point out that Harlan Crow, a major GOP and Clarence Thomas donor, likes to collect Nazi memorabilia and display it in his house. so...he is a white supremacist that is best friends with Clarence Thomas? You betcha.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jun 20, 2023 13:28:16 GMT -5
A viable third party in American politics could be a good thing in theory. But this "third party" was created and funded by the likes of Crow (when he's not admiring his collection of Third Reich uniforms or buying a supreme court judge), the Murdochs, and big-time Trump benefactor Nelson Peltz with the intention of siphoning off votes from Democratic candidates. Once a cheater, always a cheater, indeed. oh Gees....I don't understand the weird opinions about collecting war memorabilia. I think many historians are fascinated with collecting history. It doesn't make you a white supremacist and in the same breath you complain about his friendship with Clarence Thomas? A black man? Lord....please make sense. I am fascinated with WW2 and have watched everything I possibly can. The reason I think Nazi memorabilia is so sought after is that after the war they tried to erase all signs of the Nazi party due to the terrible discoveries of what they did. In a sense it was erasing the proof that it really happened which is exactly what you don't want. I would find Nazi items fascinating because they are rare. I think you guys complaining about rich men trying to help their party win is hilarious given that your party are masters at just that. That make you all Soros loving hypocrites. You either hate election interference or you don't? Which is it? So we're marking you down as being OK with collecting Nazi stuff for your private collection. Cool. Topping it off with a George Soros reference - a Jew who actually survived the Nazi occupation of Hungary - just makes your post all that much better. You're a classy guy!
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Post by HOLIDAY on Jun 20, 2023 13:33:25 GMT -5
oh Gees....I don't understand the weird opinions about collecting war memorabilia. I think many historians are fascinated with collecting history. It doesn't make you a white supremacist and in the same breath you complain about his friendship with Clarence Thomas? A black man? Lord....please make sense. I am fascinated with WW2 and have watched everything I possibly can. The reason I think Nazi memorabilia is so sought after is that after the war they tried to erase all signs of the Nazi party due to the terrible discoveries of what they did. In a sense it was erasing the proof that it really happened which is exactly what you don't want. I would find Nazi items fascinating because they are rare. I think you guys complaining about rich men trying to help their party win is hilarious given that your party are masters at just that. That make you all Soros loving hypocrites. You either hate election interference or you don't? Which is it? So we're marking you down as being OK with collecting Nazi stuff for your private collection. Cool. Topping it off with a George Soros reference - a Jew who survived the Nazi occupation of Hungary - just makes it all that much better. You're a classy guy! Yes...I am perfectly Ok with preserving history whether terrible or not. Sort of like gathering arrow heads when we destroyed the Indians home. Do you think its disgraceful to collect arrow heads. Soros is interesting and believe it or not was not at all political when he started getting involved. He has funded numerous DA elections in the country with a specific agenda of being easy on criminals. Thats a fact.
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Jun 20, 2023 13:38:15 GMT -5
So we're marking you down as being OK with collecting Nazi stuff for your private collection. Cool. Topping it off with a George Soros reference - a Jew who survived the Nazi occupation of Hungary - just makes it all that much better. You're a classy guy! Yes...I am perfectly Ok with preserving history whether terrible or not. Sort of like gathering arrow heads when we destroyed the Indians home. Do you think its disgraceful to collect arrow heads. Soros is interesting and believe it or not was not at all political when he started getting involved. He has funded numerous DA elections in the country with a specific agenda of being easy on criminals. Thats a fact. Finding old arrowheads in a creek bed and buying Waffen SS ceremonial knives are totally the same thing! Good to know!
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 20, 2023 13:46:52 GMT -5
Whatever else Germany did after the war, they *definitely* did not hide the evidence of Nazi activity. I mean, they keep the death camps open as museums/memorials. It's markedly different from many other countries that have tried to hide and erase the history of what they did.
People who collect memorabilia from mass murderers and serial killers and brutal dictators aren't necessarily bad people, but it does make one wonder why they are drawn to that. And it can be a pretty small step from "just fascinated with the history" to "hero worship". It's one thing if Grandpa brought back that SS combat knife he found when he was over there fighting against them. It's another thing to go out and buy a whole collection of such stuff and build yourself a display room for it.
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Post by oldnewbie on Jun 20, 2023 13:51:42 GMT -5
It's the old quote by Churchill (which he was quoting and existed prior to his reference): "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others." hbmb10k completely loses sight of that second part in their rush to condemn the US and praise Russia and China. praise China...gosh that sounds familiar? The NBA, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Cook from Apple, GM, etc etc etc etc. You are complaining about hbmb10K? You are not? They actively want Russia to obliterate Ukraine and for the US to completely lose at everything in every way possible. You seem too wrapped up in your weird belief that virtuous Republicans are diametrically opposed to evil and corrupt Democrats that you hear half of what hbmb10k says and he thinks he agrees with you. He doesn't. He literally said that there is no difference and both parties are evil and corrupt. Do you get that at all?
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Post by oldnewbie on Jun 20, 2023 13:54:38 GMT -5
Yes...I am perfectly Ok with preserving history whether terrible or not. Sort of like gathering arrow heads when we destroyed the Indians home. Do you think its disgraceful to collect arrow heads. Soros is interesting and believe it or not was not at all political when he started getting involved. He has funded numerous DA elections in the country with a specific agenda of being easy on criminals. Thats a fact. Finding old arrowheads in a creek bed and buying Waffen SS ceremonial knives are totally the same thing! Good to know! Oh yes, those horrible atrocities committed by Native Americans that they have forced us to cover up with their immense poliotical and business power base. Arrowheads are EXACTLY like SS trophies.
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Post by mikegarrison on Jun 20, 2023 13:56:19 GMT -5
The thing is, it's entirely possible to think that US politics is corrupt and yet also not want Russia to win this war. Supporting Russia's imperialism is in no way some sort of principled position rejecting US politics.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2023 14:03:52 GMT -5
Massive collections of Nazi memorabilia are weird if that's all you have. I know people with Nazi stuff, but they also have items from the British Desert Rats, and a French helmet. I think that's a world different than display rooms of Nazi-only things.
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