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Post by volleyguy on Jul 15, 2023 22:43:58 GMT -5
Again, I'm not very familiar with the international game so I'm going to ask some dumb questions. A USA outside passing? Not if the ncaa substitution rule can help it! There are maybe 3 current NCAA coaches who know how to train international level passers. What is so different about international passing that it can't be done domestically? Yes the players jump higher, are smarter with their shots, and hit with more power, but that's not fundamentally different. Plumber passed all 6 rotations at Stanford, yet is struggling in Europe. It's almost cliche that USA's outsides can't pass, but many of them did so successfully for their colleges. So what's different? I find it hard to blame the domestic DS position when so many of these pins serve received all 6 spots. When Hugh came on as USA coach, he completely changed the passing technique (this is the GM2 model, and Hugh was a GM2 coach. GM2 is a company co-owned by Doug Beal, who was also CEO of USA Volleyball). At the time, it was considered more of a "men's" style of passing, which for the sake of brevity, means more reliance on upper body strength to manage the platform and create angles. As with a lot of things, that men's style has become much more incorporated in the women's game. The old passing template is best exemplified by the japanese women's team. Most NCAA coaches only teach the new model now.
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 15, 2023 22:44:55 GMT -5
I didn't get to watch this one How did Karakurt's reception hold up? This win is definitely exciting for Turkiye. Getting rid of Guidetti was the best thing for this team. she passed fine but hit negative lol did she really? man, it didn’t feel like that in the gym. I mean i wouldn’t have said .300 or anything but I would’ve guessed at least .100 or so. she was an overall net positivie for Turkey though. other than her collapse at the end of the fourth, she made some huge kills at some points and passed REALLY well.
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Post by vnv21 on Jul 15, 2023 22:45:21 GMT -5
I really do think Plummer at opposite needs to be tried out. What's there to lose at this point, Annie is a known quantity and JT is a bigger question mark than ever. We can talk about plenty of things, but the fact is a strong opposite hides a lot of problems lol just you wait THEY ARE ON THEIR WAY FOLKS WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT
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Post by basil on Jul 15, 2023 22:45:26 GMT -5
she passed fine but hit negative lol did she really? man, it didn’t feel like that in the gym. I mean i wouldn’t have said .300 or anything but I would’ve guessed at least .100 or so. she was an overall net positivie for Turkey though. other than her collapse at the end of the fourth, she made some huge kills at some points and passed REALLY well. it was the collapse at the end of sets that did her in
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Post by dragan11 on Jul 15, 2023 22:45:33 GMT -5
I didn't get to watch this one How did Karakurt's reception hold up? This win is definitely exciting for Turkiye. Getting rid of Guidetti was the best thing for this team. she passed fine but hit negative lol She is sometimes able to kill some random out of system balls which gives higher transition attack percentage to Turkey but I really don't expect her to hit high efficiency as OH. Her body can't handle both receiving and hitting at the same time.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jul 15, 2023 22:45:40 GMT -5
she passed fine but hit negative lol did she really? man, it didn’t feel like that in the gym. I mean i wouldn’t have said .300 or anything but I would’ve guessed at least .100 or so. she was an overall net positivie for Turkey though. other than her collapse at the end of the fourth, she made some huge kills at some points and passed REALLY well. all of her errors came on match points lol
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 15, 2023 22:45:52 GMT -5
I wish Fields hit the ball harder tbh as much as I push for her, I agree lol. I feel like it’s easier to hit the ball harder on the right than the left though, at least in my experience.
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Post by hipsterfilth on Jul 15, 2023 22:46:03 GMT -5
wait our middles having 2 kills all match is surely hyperbolic? ? Chi went 2-2-4 Haleigh 0-3-4 Dana 0-0-6 Asjia 0-0-1 that ain't good.
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Post by sfvbsfvb on Jul 15, 2023 22:46:13 GMT -5
not jerritt lol (i have to have something tonight. dont come for me texas fans) I literally cannot remember the last good texas passing outside… so yeah DEFINITELY not jerritt It ain't logan, that's for sure. May she never see a national team
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jul 15, 2023 22:46:42 GMT -5
I literally cannot remember the last good texas passing outside… so yeah DEFINITELY not jerritt It ain't logan, that's for sure. May she never see a national team that’s not really necessary…
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Post by Fe Gaslay on Jul 15, 2023 22:46:51 GMT -5
Don’t forget mother Kami Miner! 🤭 Miner is the best American setter for now. #hottake Karch should take her to gym asap I hope she’ll be in the gym in some capacity this summer. But atp the timing might not work out with NCAA preseason coming up. If it does tho… no reason why she couldn’t get some reps with at least the Pan Ams group
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Post by manyshaped on Jul 15, 2023 22:47:31 GMT -5
Again, I'm not very familiar with the international game so I'm going to ask some dumb questions. What is so different about international passing that it can't be done domestically? Yes the players jump higher, are smarter with their shots, and hit with more power, but that's not fundamentally different. Plumber passed all 6 rotations at Stanford, yet is struggling in Europe. It's almost cliche that USA's outsides can't pass, but many of them did so successfully for their colleges. So what's different? I find it hard to blame the domestic DS position when so many of these pins serve received all 6 spots. When Hugh came on as USA coach, he completely changed the passing technique (this is the GM2 model, and Hugh was a GM2 coach. GM2 is a company co-owned by Doug Beal, who was also CEO of USA Volleyball). At the time, it was considered more of a "men's" style of passing, which for the sake of brevity, means more reliance on upper body strength to manage the platform and create angles. As with a lot of things, that men's style has become much more incorporated in the women's game. The old passing template is best exemplified by the japanese women's team. Most NCAA coaches only teach the new model now. this makes me wonder…which quad since london had the most consistent passing numbers, eye test or stats?
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Post by uofaGRAD on Jul 15, 2023 22:47:57 GMT -5
Miner is the best American setter for now. #hottake Karch should take her to gym asap I hope she’ll be in the gym in some capacity this summer. But atp the timing might not work out with NCAA preseason coming up. If it does tho… no reason why she couldn’t get some reps with at least the Pan Ams group ehh, leave that to EMP for rn tbh
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 15, 2023 22:48:11 GMT -5
I wish Fields hit the ball harder tbh as much as I push for her, I agree lol. I feel like it’s easier to hit the ball harder on the right than the left though, at least in my experience. She's got the freak hops, the aggressive mentality I want from that position and can hit the angles. But you need heat at the next level too. Hitting over isn't consistently enough. Still, should be getting looked at.
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Post by anOPINionATEDbeACH(hookemboo) on Jul 15, 2023 22:48:19 GMT -5
I literally cannot remember the last good texas passing outside… so yeah DEFINITELY not jerritt It ain't logan, that's for sure. May she never see a national team Damn, what she did to you ?
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