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Post by fireandwater on Jul 15, 2023 22:35:06 GMT -5
agree. But also it seems like usa will bench their starters for the smallest injuries ever and I think they need to stop doing that… I’m not saying force players to play injured but like everyone has something nagging and you don’t see other top NT missing starters this often gunes is battered, yet played the majority of the vnl. she slays. yeah omg homegirl needs a BREAK
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 22:35:07 GMT -5
agree. But also it seems like usa will bench their starters for the smallest injuries ever and I think they need to stop doing that… I’m not saying force players to play injured but like everyone has something nagging and you don’t see other top NT missing starters this often gunes is battered, yet played the majority of the vnl. she slays. a bunch of players for other NT have nagging injuries yet play every match
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Post by coachdavid on Jul 15, 2023 22:36:20 GMT -5
Again, I'm not very familiar with the international game so I'm going to ask some dumb questions. I just want a terminal outside who can pass, is that too much to ask for? Is that harper murray? A USA outside passing? Not if the ncaa substitution rule can help it! A USA outside passing? Not if the ncaa substitution rule can help it! There are maybe 3 current NCAA coaches who know how to train international level passers. What is so different about international passing that it can't be done domestically? Yes the players jump higher, are smarter with their shots, and hit with more power, but that's not fundamentally different. Plumber passed all 6 rotations at Stanford, yet is struggling in Europe. It's almost cliche that USA's outsides can't pass, but many of them did so successfully for their colleges. So what's different? I find it hard to blame the domestic DS position when so many of these pins serve received all 6 spots.
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Post by vup on Jul 15, 2023 22:36:47 GMT -5
I don’t think lack of talent is the issue, and I don’t think we need to be digging for new players. Imo, the lack of a consistent starting lineup is the main issue. Karch can boast about playing all these different players and still be able to win*, but clearly, that strategy only works for so long. At some point, you have to settle on a starting lineup. Period.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jul 15, 2023 22:37:22 GMT -5
Again, I'm not very familiar with the international game so I'm going to ask some dumb questions. A USA outside passing? Not if the ncaa substitution rule can help it! There are maybe 3 current NCAA coaches who know how to train international level passers. What is so different about international passing that it can't be done domestically? Yes the players jump higher, are smarter with their shots, and hit with more power, but that's not fundamentally different. Plumber passed all 6 rotations at Stanford, yet is struggling in Europe. It's almost cliche that USA's outsides can't pass, but many of them did so successfully for their colleges. So what's different? I find it hard to blame the domestic DS position when so many of these pins serve received all 6 spots. Ncaa uses the easier ball to pass. NCAA OHs get protected by DSs in a lot of rotations. And the level of serving in the NCAA just isn’t as high as it is overseas… four years of development they lose
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Post by alt on Jul 15, 2023 22:38:24 GMT -5
Hancock has earned her starting role and time to play out of bad starts because of her leadership and performance over the course of the VNL. She’s had to have wheels on tonight, but at some point a change will have to be made if she doesn’t play her way out of it. bullcrap. She earned her role by default; cuz Carlini took two weeks off and Karch doesnt like her, and Poulter blew her knee out. Time for a change Hancock definetly deserved the starting spot. She had one real bad game this VNL and it was this one. We can't even blame her for the lose it was a total team defeat. Setters are only going to look good if their players are playing well. Her leadership was unparallele and was critic to even get this far.
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Post by avid 2.0 on Jul 15, 2023 22:39:15 GMT -5
I just want to mention Khalia’s defense.
That is all.
Thx
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Post by basil on Jul 15, 2023 22:40:01 GMT -5
I just want to mention Khalia’s defense. That is all. Thx both she and Frantti were huge in that regard
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Post by Fight On! on Jul 15, 2023 22:40:08 GMT -5
Theres not a huge change in the team from last year vs this year other than Poulter not being the setter. Did Poulter make that much of an impact for them to win it all last year? Or is Turkey just a whole different improved team? Both IMHO
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Post by ddbb on Jul 15, 2023 22:40:26 GMT -5
gunes is battered, yet played the majority of the vnl. she slays. a bunch of players for other NT have nagging injuries yet play every match covering karch's coaching mishaps on the pretext of injuries is not it. physical conditions can be managed. the problem is it has been a recurring issue for so long and cost us several times now that i'd think there would've been appropriate measures taken already. i'm with you.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 22:41:11 GMT -5
a bunch of players for other NT have nagging injuries yet play every match covering karch's coaching mishaps on the pretext of injuries is not it. physical conditions can be managed. the problem is it has been a recurring issue for so long and cost us several times now that i'd think there would've been appropriate measures taken already. i'm with you. I usually root against usa but like I kinda wanna start rooting for them but they are making it so hard lol. Karch is awful
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Post by chatchu-off moksri on Jul 15, 2023 22:41:20 GMT -5
I didn't get to watch this one How did Karakurt's reception hold up? This win is definitely exciting for Turkiye. Getting rid of Guidetti was the best thing for this team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2023 22:42:02 GMT -5
I didn't get to watch this one How did Karakurt's reception hold up? This win is definitely exciting for Turkiye. Getting rid of Guidetti was the best thing for this team. she passed fine but hit negative lol
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Post by basil on Jul 15, 2023 22:43:04 GMT -5
Theres not a huge change in the team from last year vs this year other than Poulter not being the setter. Did Poulter make that much of an impact for them to win it all last year? Or is Turkey just a whole different improved team? Turkiye added a player that can consistently put up 5-6 points per set and has next-level physicality to a team that was already competing with the best, plus as a team they are still pretty young and a lot of them are just now starting to enter their athletic prime it's not surprising at all
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Post by jwvolley on Jul 15, 2023 22:43:58 GMT -5
I really do think Plummer at opposite needs to be tried out. What's there to lose at this point, Annie is a known quantity and JT is a bigger question mark than ever. We can talk about plenty of things, but the fact is a strong opposite hides a lot of problems lol just you wait I wish Fields hit the ball harder tbh
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