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Post by caljr on Sept 18, 2005 10:35:52 GMT -5
Several teams in the 14 - 25 range have been beaten during the past week. Here is my take at the next poll?
Nebraska Washington Stanford Penn State Minnesota
Florida Notre Dame Missouri Hawaii Louisville
Wisconsin USC UCLA San Diego St. Mary's
Arizona Kansas State Ohio State Purdue Texas AM
Santa Clara BYU Ohio U Texas Cal
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Post by gobigred on Sept 18, 2005 10:59:11 GMT -5
Congrats to Washington for a great weekend against Hawaii. Two sweeps at the SSC is no doubt hard to do. I'm not sure what to think about Hawaii. I just thought coming into this season that they were going to be a top-3 team all year. This isn't the case. You could argue that they should fall out of the top-10.
I was kind of put off that so many people christened Washington as being #1, ahead of the Huskers. Just because they beat Hawaii?!? Somebody said that this weekend should silence the "cupcake schedule" talk. Why? Did Washington not play a soft schedule, with these 2 matches against UH being the only exception? The only barometer we have on Washington so far this year is very high expectations, and these two matches against the Wahine.
In my opinion, they did exactly what I thought they would do. They certainly didn't wow me to the point that they should jump over the Huskers for #1. Someone even had the gall to say that the Huskes have shown chinks in their armour, while Washington showed this weekend that they have no chinks at any position. Believe me, Washington looked great, impressive, like one of the best teams in the country, but certainly not flawless.
We only have match results to go by when ranking teams. And sorry to say, but UW's soft schedule is preventing them from moving ahead of the Huskers. Meanwhile, Nebraska has defeated 5 ranked teams, and 4 top-5 teams. This weekend doesn't change my mind. Nebraska is still #1, Washington #2. Let the debate begin.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 18, 2005 11:13:34 GMT -5
Congrats to Washington for a great weekend against Hawaii. Two sweeps at the SSC is no doubt hard to do. I'm not sure what to think about Hawaii. I just thought coming into this season that they were going to be a top-3 team all year. This isn't the case. You could argue that they should fall out of the top-10. I was kind of put off that so many people christened Washington as being #1, ahead of the Huskers. Just because they beat Hawaii?!? Somebody said that this weekend should silence the "cupcake schedule" talk. Why? Did Washington not play a soft schedule, with these 2 matches against UH being the only exception? The only barometer we have on Washington so far this year is very high expectations, and these two matches against the Wahine. In my opinion, they did exactly what I thought they would do. They certainly didn't wow me to the point that they should jump over the Huskers for #1. Someone even had the gall to say that the Huskes have shown chinks in their armour, while Washington showed this weekend that they have no chinks at any position. Believe me, Washington looked great, impressive, like one of the best teams in the country, but certainly not flawless. We only have match results to go by when ranking teams. And sorry to say, but UW's soft schedule is preventing them from moving ahead of the Huskers. Meanwhile, Nebraska has defeated 5 ranked teams, and 4 top-5 teams. This weekend doesn't change my mind. Nebraska is still #1, Washington #2. Let the debate begin. Nebraska will still be number 1. They deserve to be number 1 based on who they have faced and beaten thus far as compared to who Washington has faced and beaten thus far. I think Nebraska will be remain number 1 into the final poll where I believe someone else will be number 1. As far as Hawai'i is concerned, they are still trying to find a lineup that they can stick to. Early season injuries didn't help but now that they are healthy, I expect things to start getting better for them. They will be a dangerous team come tourney time. As far as the Husky vs Husker comparisons go, I was more impressed with Washington. This is just a solid volleyball team all around. They play phenomenal defense and their transitional game is exceptional. I don't see them losing ANY matches in the PAC 10.
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Post by BeiBei on Sept 18, 2005 11:14:21 GMT -5
I was kind of put off that so many people christened Washington as being #1, ahead of the Huskers. . Care to support this statement? Who are the "so many people"?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2005 11:41:49 GMT -5
Wisconsin-UCLA today.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 18, 2005 11:49:36 GMT -5
Instead of trying to channel the thoughts of the voters, I want to think about what the new Pablo rankings will look like. Here's things I see:
1) Hawaii's losses to Washington won't really move them down so much as to move Washington up. Washington was ranked 8th last week, but that was more of an upper limit, since their ranking was based on blowouts of weak teams. Now their rankings will be more solidified. Are solid 3 game wins over #13 Hawaii enough to move them into the #1 position? I could easily see them moving up 1500 points, which would put them just ahead of NU.
2) Missouri will likely drop out of #1 after their 4 game stumble.
3) Purdue is definately moving up. Were 15 last week, and with 2 three game sweeps over top 30 teams, will almost certainly move into the top 10, if not the top 5. Similarly, Ohio moves up well from 31, while Tennessee drops. Possibly a lot.
4) Utah will probably come up from 33 after their win over Santa Clara
5) Other top teams (Penn St, Minnesota, Stanford) probably tread water (although Minnesota might stumble a little with their 1st game loss to TCU). OTOH, with other teams moving up, don't be surprised to see them bumped a spot or two. Wash could push them all back 1, and Purdue might sneak in front of one or two.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 18, 2005 12:20:22 GMT -5
YOu know, it's possible the jury's still out on Hawaii. Perhaps they are not a good team. Period. So, you can argue Washington still has played no one. It's still a cupcake schedule.
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Post by islandgirl on Sept 18, 2005 12:23:10 GMT -5
In my opinion, they did exactly what I thought they would do. They certainly didn't wow me to the point that they should jump over the Huskers for #1. Someone even had the gall to say that the Huskes have shown chinks in their armour, while Washington showed this weekend that they have no chinks at any position. Believe me, Washington looked great, impressive, like one of the best teams in the country, but certainly not flawless. gobigred42, I believe you are referring to me having the "gall" to say I believe Washington was better based on what I've seen. I also believe you took it wrong. It was not a knock on Nebraska at all and I do not in any way like or favor one team over the other. (In fact they both swept Hawai'i so I dislike them both equally. ;D ) It was just my little ole humble opinion based on the limited action I've seen. I also prefaced it by saying I had only seen Nebraska in the very beginning of the season and they have probably improved. I was very impressed by them then. I also never said Washington is "flawless" (they, of course, aren't) but I did say and do believe that they are solid in every position and every aspect of the game -- as is Nebraska but I just saw slightly more vulnerability in Nebraska's game. In any event, these are clearly the two top teams in the nation and a matchup between the two would be awesome!
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Post by chrisreed on Sept 18, 2005 12:47:50 GMT -5
Based on what I've seen and not knocking on Nebraska - Washington has my vote. Nebraska fans talk about how powerful of hitter/player Houghtelling is, guess what in every rotation Washington has (5/6) Houghtellings, not only can they hit, they can block, pass and play outstanding defense.
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Post by wang pu on Sept 18, 2005 14:01:21 GMT -5
Based on what I've seen and not knocking on Nebraska - Washington has my vote. Nebraska fans talk about how powerful of hitter/player Houghtelling is, guess what in every rotation Washington has (5/6) Houghtellings, not only can they hit, they can block, pass and play outstanding defense. And serve.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 18, 2005 15:29:27 GMT -5
The Husky-Wahine scores looked fairly similar to the Husker -Hawaii scores.Washington I think Nebraska and Washington are on a collision course for the final. It would be a good one.
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Post by Pirate VB Fan on Sept 18, 2005 15:33:59 GMT -5
YOu know, it's possible the jury's still out on Hawaii. Perhaps they are not a good team. Period. So, you can argue Washington still has played no one. It's still a cupcake schedule. By that logic: Well, Minnesota's only tough game was Nebraska, which they lost (more on that later). And Penn State only has Hawai'i (which is a cupcake team) and Stanford and Nebraska (more on them). And Stanford only has Penn State and Nebraska (more on them). And Nebraska only has MN, UH and SU, all of whom are cupcakes (using the logic above), therefore Nebraska is a cupcake. So, by Wolfgangs "logic" everyone is a cupcake. Of course, no sane person thinks sweeping UH at home is a cupcake sort of thing, nor beating UH, SU and MN, or any of the other things.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Sept 18, 2005 15:36:09 GMT -5
Evidently Washington has 5 or 6 Houghtellings. If that is indeed the case start the engraving on the trophy now. We believe Washington is very good, we believe they have big players who hit the ball hard, maybe some as hard as Houghtelling. 5/6 Houghtellings is simply ridiculous.
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Post by beachman on Sept 18, 2005 15:39:48 GMT -5
I think that it is way too early to "engrave" anything.....An injury to either Nebraska or UW to a key player can change things a great deal, although Nebraska is probably deeper in certain positions than UW. Remember last year when UW got hit with the injury bug? Doesn't take much and nothing can prevent fate if that's what happens.....right now, however, these are the two premiere teams in the country....everyone else may just be a complete level beneath them.....
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Post by huntz on Sept 18, 2005 15:45:12 GMT -5
Let me get this straight. You have Ohio State ahead of BYU even though BYU beat them in Ohio? Something isn't right there.
As for the Washington Nebraska debate; Nebraska played Hawaii once in Nebraska in front of their fans not to mention that Hawaii had to travel a huge distance. Of course Nebraska was going to win, it was only a matter of by how much. Washington on the other hand goes into the SSC and sweeps Hawaii twice in dominating fasion. Which win was more impressive? Washington's of course. They have my vote right now.
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