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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2005 15:57:09 GMT -5
That's fine if your poll is based solely on how teams do against Hawai'i. Oh, wait. Never mind.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 18, 2005 15:57:18 GMT -5
As for the Washington Nebraska debate; Nebraska played Hawaii once in Nebraska in front of their fans not to mention that Hawaii had to travel a huge distance. Of course Nebraska was going to win, it was only a matter of by how much. Washington on the other hand goes into the SSC and sweeps Hawaii twice in dominating fasion. Which win was more impressive? Washington's of course. They have my vote right now. Only the first win by Washington was a "dominating" performance, and much of it was due to the Wahine's ineptness for the first 2 games of that match. Last night it was a battle. The Huskies swept but the games were very close. I wouldn't call that "dominating fashion". Nebraska played Hawai'i in Nebraska when Hawai'i was without Tara Hittle, a huge part of this team. U Dub played a Hawai'i team that had all of their players available, and beat them twice at the SSC. That is impressive but you can't ignore who the Huskers have beat as compared to who Washington has beat. IMO, Washington is the better team but they shouldn't be ranked higher than Nebraska in a poll. Based on schedule and results, Nebraska deserves to be number 1, for now.
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Post by GatorVball on Sept 18, 2005 15:59:52 GMT -5
As for the Washington Nebraska debate; Nebraska played Hawaii once in Nebraska in front of their fans not to mention that Hawaii had to travel a huge distance. Of course Nebraska was going to win, it was only a matter of by how much. Washington on the other hand goes into the SSC and sweeps Hawaii twice in dominating fasion. Which win was more impressive? Washington's of course. They have my vote right now. Only the first win by Washington was a "dominating" performance, and much of it was due to the Wahine's ineptness for the first 2 games of that match. Last night it was a battle. The Huskies swept but the games were very close. I wouldn't call that a "dominating fashion". Nebraska played Hawai'i in Nebraska when Hawai'i was without Tara Hittle, a huge part of this team. U Dub played a Hawai'i team that had all of their players available, and beat them twice at the SSC. That is impressive but you can't ignore who the Huskers have beat as compared to who Washington has beat. IMO, Washington is the better team but they shouldn't be ranked higher than Nebraska in a poll. Based on schedule and results, Nebraska deserves to be number 1, for now. Yet when Florida was swept by Notre Dame last week, 28, 29 and 28, you said they were dominated. Make up your mind already.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 18, 2005 16:01:41 GMT -5
Only the first win by Washington was a "dominating" performance, and much of it was due to the Wahine's ineptness for the first 2 games of that match. Last night it was a battle. The Huskies swept but the games were very close. I wouldn't call that a "dominating fashion". Nebraska played Hawai'i in Nebraska when Hawai'i was without Tara Hittle, a huge part of this team. U Dub played a Hawai'i team that had all of their players available, and beat them twice at the SSC. That is impressive but you can't ignore who the Huskers have beat as compared to who Washington has beat. IMO, Washington is the better team but they shouldn't be ranked higher than Nebraska in a poll. Based on schedule and results, Nebraska deserves to be number 1, for now. Yet when Florida was swept by Notre Dame last week, 28, 29 and 28, you said they were dominated. Make up your mind already. Notre Dame isn't Washington. Perhaps the Gators weren't dominated but they got swept by Notre Dame. A team that loss to LSU. Notre Dame is NOWHERE as good as Washington!
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Post by islandgirl on Sept 18, 2005 16:17:41 GMT -5
That's fine if your poll is based solely on how teams do against Hawai'i. Oh, wait. Never mind. I realize you are just being facetious again but on a related note... right now Hawai'i is the only common denominator between the top two teams so it makes sense to look at that. On another side note, the problems with polls have been discussed ad nauseum on this board and I have no idea what his take is but Shoji's top two vote in the next poll has more credibility at this point in the season as it is really the only one that will be based on firsthand experience.
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Post by OverAndUnder on Sept 18, 2005 16:25:56 GMT -5
In a head-to-head match right now, Nebraska beats Washington. They'll go into the tournament #1 and #2, respectively. However, one of those teams will receive a surprise upset from a 7-12 team in the regional, and the girls will go home with empty hands and heavy hearts. Oh wait, that was last year...
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Post by GatorVball on Sept 18, 2005 16:26:34 GMT -5
Yet when Florida was swept by Notre Dame last week, 28, 29 and 28, you said they were dominated. Make up your mind already. Notre Dame isn't Washington. Perhaps the Gators weren't dominated but they got swept by Notre Dame. A team that loss to LSU. Notre Dame is NOWHERE as good as Washington! I never made a claim that ND was anywhere near as good as UW. Not many, if any, are. I was just pointing out your hypocrisy, as usual.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2005 16:30:10 GMT -5
That's fine if your poll is based solely on how teams do against Hawai'i. Oh, wait. Never mind. I realize you are just being facetious again but on a related note... right now Hawai'i is the only common denominator between the top two teams so it makes sense to look at that. Agreed. But it makes no sense to ignore Nebraska's wins over: Stanford, Ohio State, Michigan, Minnesota, Pepperdine, Penn State and Colorado. All we have for the Huskies are the two wins @ Hawaii. Significant, but paltry in comparison. I don't know who's better, but Nebraska has more claim to #1.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Sept 18, 2005 16:53:29 GMT -5
Notre Dame isn't Washington. Perhaps the Gators weren't dominated but they got swept by Notre Dame. A team that loss to LSU. Notre Dame is NOWHERE as good as Washington! I was just pointing out your hypocrisy, as usual. That was really a paltry attempt on your part, as usual.
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Post by huntz on Sept 18, 2005 17:53:46 GMT -5
I mentioned this in an earlier thread. Nebraska plays in the Big 12, and Washington plays in the Pac 10. Right now Nebraska has played the harder schedule, but once conference play starts Washington will have a much harder schedule than Nebraska, and they will be more seasoned than the Huskers. Three out of the last four years Nebraska has lost to a Pac 10 team in the tournament. A tough schedule near the end of the season is much better than a tough schedule at the beginning. Advantage come tourney time: Washington.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2005 18:09:22 GMT -5
Missouri, KSU, Texas A&M, Texas, Kansas--heck, even Iowa State...I don't think the Big12 is that far behind the Pac10 this year. If it's even behind.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2005 18:32:51 GMT -5
And Colorado.
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Post by 2c on Sept 18, 2005 19:04:48 GMT -5
Uhhhhhhh....... STANFORD.
Nebraska and Washington are playing at a high level now but how much will they improve over the course of the next 2 months. Stanfords freshman and sophs will make big strides throught the Pac10 season and before ya know it, Stanford will be the scariest team to face going into the tourney.
Not saying they're destined to repeat but to say the title comes down to Washington and Nebraska scares me. Stanford is always there in the end. I don't see this year as being any exception.
It all comes down to who has the stronger match on any given evening. I actually think Stanford may split with UW.
Nobody can stop Foluke, except Foluke. Not even poor stanford passing, cuz all Kehoe has to do is double it up to Akinradewo in a hula-hoop sized zone and that girl will put it away. And she'll get so much better every week is what's so depressing for all non-Stanford fans.
I find it sort of funny how Barboza has unofficially been deemed FOY. Hell, she's not even the best Freshman on her own team.
Stanford will be scary come December.
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Post by gobigred on Sept 18, 2005 19:12:56 GMT -5
These are all very interesting comments. I'm happy to see my post illicit such hearty debate. Here are my summarized responses, as I have to get on a plane later tonight. First, I just wish people would be more careful when saying which team is better than the other. I've never said NU is better than UW, but I've made my argument for why NU should be #1. Secondly, the Pac-10/Big-12 point is a good one made by huntz. I do happen to think that going through the Pac-10 would be a lot harder than the Big-12. Despite how solid the Big-12 is. However, the Big 12 will be tough enough to not lull the Huskers to sleep, and that (hopefully) won't contribute to an NCAA Tourney letdown (which I don't think will happen this year). Lastly, to UW, watch out for Stanford, I can really see them developing into a team good enough to beat anyone by tourney time.
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Post by prosem on Sept 18, 2005 19:15:51 GMT -5
UW might get relatively lucky by playing Stanford at their home first and relativaly early in the season, lets see, in three weeks. The more time you give them, the better they will be. Although I did not think they played too well against UCSB this weekend.
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