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Post by dbro1970 on Aug 31, 2023 20:34:48 GMT -5
Ashburn and Hammil already have double doubles.
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Post by redcardš on Aug 31, 2023 20:35:12 GMT -5
Both Booth and Smrek are hitting over 0.600 this match! as they should. |
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Aug 31, 2023 20:36:09 GMT -5
Then please explain why team USA plays Robinson-Cook or anyone else instead of Plummer in their 5-1??? Plummer is the most terminal hitter team USA has and yet she can't even touch the starting lineup right now. Hitting pct is not everything Lol did you seriously just compare Julia Orzol and Sarah Franklin to Kelsey Robinson and Jordan Larson? ššš No, I'm saying the reason why TTA doesn't get to play 6 rotations despite being our most terminal hitter (the argument you tried to use to argue for her playing 6 rotations) is because she can't pass. The same reason, since you're obv having trouble keeping up, that Plummer, despite being USA's most terminal hitter, is not in USA's go-to starting lineup. Simple concept, try to keep up and stop strawman-ing |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Aug 31, 2023 20:36:26 GMT -5
Does CC not exist to Wisconsin lol.
Like they just refuse to set her
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Aug 31, 2023 20:36:44 GMT -5
This 6-2 won the Big Ten Championship last year. Nattys are hard. no matter the system. If UW manages another B1G championship, I'll be happy. I mean thatās niceā¦. but if it were a happy accident then a 6-2 wouldāve lucked their way into a national championship at some point, itās a proven losing system. Itād be nice for someone to try something different to break the curse. You allegedly believe you have 4 worthy arms on the pins to warrant it, use them. Wisconsin might be the only 6-2 team that actually DOES have the requisite pin power to make it work. Itād be nice to see them take a risk and go for the big prize instead of settling for the medium prize. Are you trying to say Wisconsin isn't trying to win the national championship lmao??? |
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Post by dbro1970 on Aug 31, 2023 20:36:56 GMT -5
This 6-2 won the Big Ten Championship last year. Nattys are hard. no matter the system. If UW manages another B1G championship, I'll be happy. I mean thatās niceā¦. but if it were a happy accident then a 6-2 wouldāve lucked their way into a national championship at some point, itās a proven losing system. Itād be nice for someone to try something different to break the curse. You allegedly believe you have 4 worthy arms on the pins to warrant it, use them. Wisconsin might be the only 6-2 team that actually DOES have the requisite pin power to make it work. Itād be nice to see them take a risk and go for the big prize instead of settling for the medium prize. Few 6-2 teams win Nattys, and most setters on national championship teams are right handed. If you check it out, you will see its true. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 31, 2023 20:37:19 GMT -5
Love that TTA solo stuff.
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Post by katn on Aug 31, 2023 20:37:52 GMT -5
arkansas is too predictable...they look gassed
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Post by maigrey on Aug 31, 2023 20:37:53 GMT -5
Does CC not exist to Wisconsin lol. Like they just refuse to set her just while serving, and blocking, and emergency setting :-) |
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Post by tablealgebra on Aug 31, 2023 20:38:05 GMT -5
This 6-2 won the Big Ten Championship last year. Nattys are hard. no matter the system. If UW manages another B1G championship, I'll be happy. I mean thatās niceā¦. but if it were a happy accident then a 6-2 wouldāve lucked their way into a national championship at some point, itās a proven losing system. Itād be nice for someone to try something different to break the curse. You allegedly believe you have 4 worthy arms on the pins to warrant it, use them. Wisconsin might be the only 6-2 team that actually DOES have the requisite pin power to make it work. Itād be nice to see them take a risk and go for the big prize instead of settling for the medium prize. 6-2 is hard because you need two setters with similar skill for it to make sense - if you have one elite setter, you run a 5-1. Since elite setters make such a huge difference and it's hard to stockpile two of them, most often you end up seeing 6-2's with no elite setters. And a 5-1 with 1 elite setter is better than a 6-2 with 0 elite setters. It takes an awful lot of firepower to win without an elite setter. Penn State almost did it in 2017 with a 6-2 - "a trip away", as some say. And they had Haleigh Washington, Simone Lee and Ali Frantti. So I don't love our chances. But with our personnel, it's the best system we have (I think Sheff would have switched to a 5-1 if he could have landed Podraza in the portal). |
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Post by Hawk Attack on Aug 31, 2023 20:38:33 GMT -5
Lol did you seriously just compare Julia Orzol and Sarah Franklin to Kelsey Robinson and Jordan Larson? ššš No, I'm saying the reason why TTA doesn't get to play 6 rotations despite being our most terminal hitter (the argument you tried to use to argue for her playing 6 rotations) is because she can't pass. The same reason, since you're obv having trouble keeping up, that Plummer, despite being USA's most terminal hitter, is not in USA's go-to starting lineup. Simple concept, try to keep up and stop strawman-ing Your comparison is completely faulty. You want to use that comparison then Franklin-Orzolās team USA counterparts are Wilhite-Parsons and Kingdon-Rishelā¦ not Kelsey Robinson-Cook. To which Plummer is playing over SWP & MKR. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Aug 31, 2023 20:42:14 GMT -5
Guys, there just aren't that many 6-2 teams period. So of course none have won a natty. You have to have the personnel to make it make sense. Pitt had the right personnel. UW has the right personnel right now.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Aug 31, 2023 20:42:31 GMT -5
FRANK! Excellent cover and kill.
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Post by badgerbadgerbadger on Aug 31, 2023 20:43:00 GMT -5
No, I'm saying the reason why TTA doesn't get to play 6 rotations despite being our most terminal hitter (the argument you tried to use to argue for her playing 6 rotations) is because she can't pass. The same reason, since you're obv having trouble keeping up, that Plummer, despite being USA's most terminal hitter, is not in USA's go-to starting lineup. Simple concept, try to keep up and stop strawman-ing Your comparison is completely faulty. You want to use that comparison then Franklin-Orzolās team USA counterparts are Wilhite-Parsons and Kingdon-Rishelā¦ not Kelsey Robinson-Cook. To which Plummer is playing over SWP & MKR. Are you slow or just trying to troll?  Maybe you're TTA's relatives and pissed she isn't play 6 rotations? Franklin, and especially Orzol, are literally Robinson-Cook and whoever else USA plays alongside her and TTA is Plummer, because once again, let me repeat this to you, Robinson-Cook has a starting spot locked down because she can pass while Plummer is much more terminal yet can't crack the lineup because she CAN'T pass. Same concept applies here. I'm not engaging with you anymore, go watch Iowa finish last in the B10 again or something instead of trying to imply somehow that you know more than Sheff or that if we're not playing TTA 6 rotations we're not trying to win the title LOL. |
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Post by dbro1970 on Aug 31, 2023 20:44:49 GMT -5
I mean thatās niceā¦. but if it were a happy accident then a 6-2 wouldāve lucked their way into a national championship at some point, itās a proven losing system. Itād be nice for someone to try something different to break the curse. You allegedly believe you have 4 worthy arms on the pins to warrant it, use them. Wisconsin might be the only 6-2 team that actually DOES have the requisite pin power to make it work. Itād be nice to see them take a risk and go for the big prize instead of settling for the medium prize. 6-2 is hard because you need two setters with similar skill for it to make sense - if you have one elite setter, you run a 5-1. Since elite setters make such a huge difference and it's hard to stockpile two of them, most often you end up seeing 6-2's with no elite setters. And a 5-1 with 1 elite setter is better than a 6-2 with 0 elite setters. It takes an awful lot of firepower to win without an elite setter. Penn State almost did it in 2017 with a 6-2 - "a trip away", as some say. And they had Haleigh Washington, Simone Lee and Ali Frantti. So I don't love our chances. But with our personnel, it's the best system we have (I think Sheff would have switched to a 5-1 if he could have landed Podraza in the portal). I personally prefer Ashburn and Hammil to Podraza. She is a good setter, but I would take Hilley or Carlini over her any day. In other words, I think she is good but not elite. |
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Maybe you're TTA's relatives and pissed she isn't play 6 rotations? Franklin, and especially Orzol, are literally Robinson-Cook and whoever else USA plays alongside her and TTA is Plummer, because once again, let me repeat this to you, Robinson-Cook has a starting spot locked down because she can pass while Plummer is much more terminal yet can't crack the lineup because she CAN'T pass. Same concept applies here. I'm not engaging with you anymore, go watch Iowa finish last in the B10 again or something instead of trying to imply somehow that you know more than Sheff or that if we're not playing TTA 6 rotations we're not trying to win the title LOL.