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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2023 22:09:23 GMT -5
KENDRA WAIT LOL
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Post by chenny11 on Sept 17, 2023 22:12:49 GMT -5
This poster said the best setter in college vb and she is not the best setter in the game right now. This poster is constantly making excuses. Even before Stuckey's injury, I'd take Kami Miner (Stanford), Bergen Reilly (Nebraska), and Kendra Wait (Creighton) ahead of Stuckey. you left out Mac Podraza and Emma Grome |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2023 22:20:16 GMT -5
Even before Stuckey's injury, I'd take Kami Miner (Stanford), Bergen Reilly (Nebraska), and Kendra Wait (Creighton) ahead of Stuckey. you left out Mac Podraza and Emma Grome this is sarcasm right |
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Post by gators on Sept 17, 2023 22:39:51 GMT -5
Even before Stuckey's injury, I'd take Kami Miner (Stanford), Bergen Reilly (Nebraska), and Kendra Wait (Creighton) ahead of Stuckey. you left out Mac Podraza and Emma Grome ? |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 17, 2023 22:44:44 GMT -5
There was a thread about how important setters were to attacking a little while back. Sadly, this match provides one pretty good data point. Not the final word, just one observation.
Florida hit 0.194 in the first, in which only Stucky set (13-6-36)
Florida hit 0.160 in the 3rd, 4th and 5th sets in which only Muff set (31-16-94)
So, Stucky added 0.035 or about 22% to the Florida offensive efficiency over Muff, which is nothing to sneeze at, but not nearly as much as I would have thought. Maybe the badger defense got worse as the game went on, but I don't think so.
The badger offense got much better, hitting 0 in the first set, and 0.280 in the last three sets. Maybe that is partly do the Florida's attack knocking UW out of system more with Stucky setting, but I think it mostly had to do with how bad the badgers were passing in the 1st. Also, Stucky is a pretty good server.
Lot's of variables not considered, of course, so hard to interpret.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2023 22:51:13 GMT -5
There was a thread about how important setters were to attacking a little while back. Sadly, this match provides one pretty good data point. Not the final word, just one observation. Florida hit 0.194 in the first, in which only Stucky set (13-6-36) Florida hit 0.160 in the 3rd, 4th and 5th sets in which only Muff set (31-16-94) So, Stucky added 0.035 or about 22% to the Florida offensive efficiency over Muff, which is nothing to sneeze at, but not nearly as much as I would have thought. Maybe the badger defense got worse as the game went on, but I don't think so. The badger offense got much better, hitting 0 in the first set, and 0.280 in the last three sets. Maybe that is partly do the Florida's attack knocking UW out of system more with Stucky setting, but I think it mostly had to do with how bad the badgers were passing in the 1st. Also, Stucky is a pretty good server. Lot's of variables not considered, of course, so hard to interpret. stucky is also a great blocker and offensive threat herself |
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Post by 25or624 on Sept 17, 2023 22:52:32 GMT -5
I'm watching the parts of the match I didn't watch.
The second set was there for the taking. 2 service errors by Saige were big, especially at 22-23. The most disturbing thing was the Badgers' inability to cover the right back corner. Florida kept sending the ball over the block to that wide open space. The announcers noted that Florida could see The Badgers cheating up. Where was the coaching to remedy that? The Badgers looked better than I expected [not in the first set]. |
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Post by ballvolley on Sept 17, 2023 22:54:03 GMT -5
There was a thread about how important setters were to attacking a little while back. Sadly, this match provides one pretty good data point. Not the final word, just one observation. Florida hit 0.194 in the first, in which only Stucky set (13-6-36) Florida hit 0.160 in the 3rd, 4th and 5th sets in which only Muff set (31-16-94) So, Stucky added 0.035 or about 22% to the Florida offensive efficiency over Muff, which is nothing to sneeze at, but not nearly as much as I would have thought. Maybe the badger defense got worse as the game went on, but I don't think so. The badger offense got much better, hitting 0 in the first set, and 0.280 in the last three sets. Maybe that is partly do the Florida's attack knocking UW out of system more with Stucky setting, but I think it mostly had to do with how bad the badgers were passing in the 1st. Also, Stucky is a pretty good server. Lot's of variables not considered, of course, so hard to interpret. What's not baked in here is Stucky's presence on the court as a leader. You could see a totally different look on Martin's face when she was out of the match. Stucky is not only an incredibly talented and physical setter, but she is their stabilizer and the one they can rely on to carry them forward. I think Muff is a highly capable setter who has great skills, but how the Gators make up for the leadership of Stucky (again, assuming she's out – and let's hope it's best case) will be key. Hence I think Anna Dixon plays a much bigger role leadership-wise, and likely moves to the pin to carry a bigger production load. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 17, 2023 23:28:09 GMT -5
There was a thread about how important setters were to attacking a little while back. Sadly, this match provides one pretty good data point. Not the final word, just one observation. Florida hit 0.194 in the first, in which only Stucky set (13-6-36) Florida hit 0.160 in the 3rd, 4th and 5th sets in which only Muff set (31-16-94) So, Stucky added 0.035 or about 22% to the Florida offensive efficiency over Muff, which is nothing to sneeze at, but not nearly as much as I would have thought. Maybe the badger defense got worse as the game went on, but I don't think so. The badger offense got much better, hitting 0 in the first set, and 0.280 in the last three sets. Maybe that is partly do the Florida's attack knocking UW out of system more with Stucky setting, but I think it mostly had to do with how bad the badgers were passing in the 1st. Also, Stucky is a pretty good server. Lot's of variables not considered, of course, so hard to interpret. What's not baked in here is Stucky's presence on the court as a leader. You could see a totally different look on Martin's face when she was out of the match. Stucky is not only an incredibly talented and physical setter, but she is their stabilizer and the one they can rely on to carry them forward. I think Muff is a highly capable setter who has great skills, but how the Gators make up for the leadership of Stucky (again, assuming she's out – and let's hope it's best case) will be key. Hence I think Anna Dixon plays a much bigger role leadership-wise, and likely moves to the pin to carry a bigger production load. That may be true, and it may have affected other aspects of the play, though I have yet to find something suggesting that. There can also be shorter term advantages to the change that won't hold in the long term (i.e., backs against the wall mentality, lack of scouting by the opposition). Anyway, the thread I was referring to was only talking about the effects of setters on attacking. It had me thinking about how to address the question. One way is by looking at performance after a setter change. So I thought I'd look at it. |
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Post by robtearle on Sept 17, 2023 23:29:31 GMT -5
Yep. She wasn't dressed. Perhaps she is going to medically redshirt? Also wondering if Stucky could too (tight cutoff) if this is a SEI (hoping not, but not looking good). Also, Gravlee is on the bench with 0 playing time. The cutoff number for a medical hardship waiver in volleyball is no more than nine matches played. I think she would qualify, if indeed she is done for the year. |
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Post by badgerbreath on Sept 17, 2023 23:36:00 GMT -5
There was a thread about how important setters were to attacking a little while back. Sadly, this match provides one pretty good data point. Not the final word, just one observation. Florida hit 0.194 in the first, in which only Stucky set (13-6-36) Florida hit 0.160 in the 3rd, 4th and 5th sets in which only Muff set (31-16-94) So, Stucky added 0.035 or about 22% to the Florida offensive efficiency over Muff, which is nothing to sneeze at, but not nearly as much as I would have thought. Maybe the badger defense got worse as the game went on, but I don't think so. The badger offense got much better, hitting 0 in the first set, and 0.280 in the last three sets. Maybe that is partly do the Florida's attack knocking UW out of system more with Stucky setting, but I think it mostly had to do with how bad the badgers were passing in the 1st. Also, Stucky is a pretty good server. Lot's of variables not considered, of course, so hard to interpret. stucky is also a great blocker and offensive threat herself The offensive threat would have been baked into the difference in HP. The blocking may have had a big influence on the badger HP though. That's a good point. The badgers have historically taken advantage of smaller setters (McMenimen, Blossom). I do remember being annoyed that TTA was repeatedly hitting right into the bigger middle blocker, rather than down the line over the smaller setter, in the later sets. She seemed dead set on hitting cross court for some reason. |
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 17, 2023 23:56:53 GMT -5
There is little that convinces me that Wisconsin would have won if Stucky played the entire match. In fact, even in the 5th set, Wisconsin didn't even win, Florida lost with timid attacking and errors. So far this season, of all the top teams, Wisconsin has been the least impressive to me overall.
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Post by volleyball90 on Sept 18, 2023 0:26:24 GMT -5
There is little that convinces me that Wisconsin would have won if Stucky played the entire match. In fact, even in the 5th set, Wisconsin didn't even win, Florida lost with timid attacking and errors. So far this season, of all the top teams, Wisconsin has been the least impressive to me overall. Hate on all you want, but Wisconsin has played one of the toughest non con schedules and won every match. No one else has more top 25 wins. They have done this all while clearly not playing up to their potential. |
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 18, 2023 0:31:06 GMT -5
There is little that convinces me that Wisconsin would have won if Stucky played the entire match. In fact, even in the 5th set, Wisconsin didn't even win, Florida lost with timid attacking and errors. So far this season, of all the top teams, Wisconsin has been the least impressive to me overall. Hate on all you want, but Wisconsin has played one of the toughest non con schedules and won every match. No one else has more top 25 wins. They have done this all while clearly not playing up to their potential. So.....what is your point? I don't deny Wisconsin has won all of their matches, but they haven't looked particularly good in many of their matches. Not sure why that's considered to be hateful, but whatever. Wisconsin has played one bonafide top 10 team in the non-conference (Florida), was humiliated in the first set by them, and when Florida lost their best player in the 2nd set, Wisconsin still needed 5 sets to win, and, like I said earlier, they didn't win the match so much as Florida lost it with timid attacking and unforced errors. Those are just the facts, sorry if you don't like them. Thankfully, Wisconsin plays in the Big 10 and has plenty of opportunity to show us they are actually the #1 team in the country, because I can't imagine that anyone that has actually watched Wisconsin this season thinks they are currently the #1 team in the country. |
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Post by odinaka on Sept 18, 2023 0:31:16 GMT -5
This Wisconsin team was supposed to be dominant: just look at the roster. But they’re barely scrapping their way through matches, and previously high performing players are looking mediocre. Poor coaching?
If Stuckey hadn’t gone down they would’ve been swept.
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