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Post by statsqueen on Dec 8, 2023 15:14:27 GMT -5
Not if universities end up having to pay 15K per athlete per year.... Well, to be fair, they only have to pay that for 12 athletes, whether there are 12 or 28 on the roster. The rest of the operating expenses for that large of a roster would come from the team budget. That's not how the proposal is written. The proposal is written such that they would have to pay 30K for HALF of all countable athletes, so 15K per kid on roster.... |
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Post by statsqueen on Dec 8, 2023 15:16:34 GMT -5
Not if universities end up having to pay 15K per athlete per year.... Wait til you hear about this thing where they pay the athletes $40k-$60k a year just for being on the team. They call it a "scholarship." Scholarships aren't required. MANY D1 programs are underfunded. Davidson in the A10 has 2, as an example. The current NLI proposal would be a pay requirement per kid on roster to compete. It's a non-starter in my opinion, especially when factoring in teams that aren't even fully funded currently. |
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Post by Not Me on Dec 8, 2023 15:23:01 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, they only have to pay that for 12 athletes, whether there are 12 or 28 on the roster. The rest of the operating expenses for that large of a roster would come from the team budget. That's not how the proposal is written. The proposal is written such that they would have to pay 30K for HALF of all countable athletes, so 15K per kid on roster.... Given that this proposal came from the NCAA and all the conference commissioners are mad they weren’t consulted, this plan is a long way from being finalized. |
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Post by Not Me on Dec 8, 2023 15:26:01 GMT -5
PSU Altoona has hired the interim men’s coach for both programs. www.psaltoonalions.com/sports/mvball/2023-24/releases/20231208j0lprcBob Kasun was announced as the head coach of the Penn State Altoona men's and women's volleyball teams on Friday afternoon. In his role of volleyball coach, Kasun oversees the recruiting, scheduling, and player development for both the men's and women's volleyball teams. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 8, 2023 15:29:51 GMT -5
Wait til you hear about this thing where they pay the athletes $40k-$60k a year just for being on the team. They call it a "scholarship." Scholarships aren't required. MANY D1 programs are underfunded. Davidson in the A10 has 2, as an example. The current NLI proposal would be a pay requirement per kid on roster to compete. It's a non-starter in my opinion, especially when factoring in teams that aren't even fully funded currently. Paying the players isn't required, either. |
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Post by jcvball22 on Dec 8, 2023 15:45:33 GMT -5
Wait til you hear about this thing where they pay the athletes $40k-$60k a year just for being on the team. They call it a "scholarship." Scholarships aren't required. MANY D1 programs are underfunded. Davidson in the A10 has 2, as an example. The current NLI proposal would be a pay requirement per kid on roster to compete. It's a non-starter in my opinion, especially when factoring in teams that aren't even fully funded currently. The likelihood it passes is 50/50 at best and implementation would be a few years away, most likely. So it literally has no bearing on this situation. |
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Post by mervinswerved on Dec 8, 2023 15:54:23 GMT -5
Scholarships aren't required. MANY D1 programs are underfunded. Davidson in the A10 has 2, as an example. The current NLI proposal would be a pay requirement per kid on roster to compete. It's a non-starter in my opinion, especially when factoring in teams that aren't even fully funded currently. The likelihood it passes is 50/50 at best and implementation would be a few years away, most likely. So it literally has no bearing on this situation. Also, UNCA is about the last place that would opt in to the new subdivision. |
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Post by jcvball22 on Dec 8, 2023 15:57:28 GMT -5
The likelihood it passes is 50/50 at best and implementation would be a few years away, most likely. So it literally has no bearing on this situation. Also, UNCA is about the last place that would opt in to the new subdivision. Minor details LOL |
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Post by justahick on Dec 8, 2023 16:23:56 GMT -5
That's not how the proposal is written. The proposal is written such that they would have to pay 30K for HALF of all countable athletes, so 15K per kid on roster.... Given that this proposal came from the NCAA and all the conference commissioners are mad they weren’t consulted, this plan is a long way from being finalized. In a way that was the point behind the proposal - separate the conferences that want to compete properly, across the board, in a wide array of sports, away from the "division 1 in name only" conferences that are only in it for basketball publicity. |
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Post by Phaedrus on Dec 8, 2023 17:38:32 GMT -5
It's not clear she was ever in an NCAA gym at any point in her life, let alone a DI gym. This could be said about Louisiana’s coach as well. And she seems to be doing good things. There are absolutely people out there with the personality and general competency to succeed even if they have a lot less experience. But pretty clearly, that was not the case here. Because on the other side of that coin, I can think of quite a few coaches that have a ton of experience in D1 gyms that would be a trainwreck if they got a head coaching job. So which side is the status quo and which is the exception? Thats the problem with doing the: Yes, but.... argument. |
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Post by n00b on Dec 8, 2023 18:00:50 GMT -5
This could be said about Louisiana’s coach as well. And she seems to be doing good things. There are absolutely people out there with the personality and general competency to succeed even if they have a lot less experience. But pretty clearly, that was not the case here. Because on the other side of that coin, I can think of quite a few coaches that have a ton of experience in D1 gyms that would be a trainwreck if they got a head coaching job. So which side is the status quo and which is the exception? Thats the problem with doing the: Yes, but.... argument. Not sure. I think hiring is more of a crapshoot than people think. Great ADs might make great hires 75% of the time and lousy ADs will get it right 25%. But it's far from an exact science. Especially if you're in the bottom 10% of pay in all of D1. The experienced candidates will often have a reason they'd be willing to take a low-paying job. So you're trying to strike gold with somebody without experience. |
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Post by justahick on Dec 8, 2023 19:22:38 GMT -5
So which side is the status quo and which is the exception? Thats the problem with doing the: Yes, but.... argument. Not sure. I think hiring is more of a crapshoot than people think. Great ADs might make great hires 75% of the time and lousy ADs will get it right 25%. But it's far from an exact science. Especially if you're in the bottom 10% of pay in all of D1. The experienced candidates will often have a reason they'd be willing to take a low-paying job. So you're trying to strike gold with somebody without experience. Not talking about UNCA specifically but, A lot of the hires that look "bad" to fans are exactly what the ADs wanted/expected. They want a cheap body to sit in the chair, not make waves, run a clean program and not make the AD have to work very hard. |
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Post by volleyfan on Dec 8, 2023 20:35:11 GMT -5
If Syracuse doesn’t make a change they might not have a team. There are proooobblems. To be fair, they barely had one this year but I've heard the same things. True. It’s always sad to see schools who won’t invest in volleyball. I can’t imagine an AD not seeing the potential in this sport right now. |
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Post by northwestguy on Dec 9, 2023 12:37:46 GMT -5
Coaching staff was not ready for a D1 level. To be honest, they are middle of the pack junior college level coaching staff. There is(was) talent this past season, but she just couldn’t put the right group together on the court and players were all revolting when they could see the experience was no where near what they were told would be the case. The AD needed to make a change immediately to save the program from even further decline. It was a bizarre hire in the first place. |
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Post by northwestguy on Dec 9, 2023 12:45:46 GMT -5
lol...I stay off here for the most part...but middle of the pack JC Coaches...lol...I'm sorry, is it a diffrent game at the D1 level?
Or maybe is it the athletes...if your going to run down an entire level of collegiate vball what a wonderful way to go...a professional is a professional no matter the level...what your talking about is coaches...at all levels...who are not prepared to be head coaches...period, regardless of the level...know many coaches at different levels who would do great things if given the opportunity ....sorry if I take offense, but lots of GREAT coaches at many levels.
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