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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 1, 2023 22:14:41 GMT -5
What stops a coach from instructing their captain to say no? It's not solely the captain's decision, that's just who it's presented to. The decision is up to the team, including the coaches. Can you think of anything that would stop a coach from instructing their captain to say no? I think maybe some examples of why you believe a coach should make that decision would be beneficial to this conversation. Your opinion on whether it should be presented to the coach or captain is also one I'd like to hear given how you've phrased this post. The coach is the ultimate facilitator of team culture. I imagine many coaches have a decent enough understanding of their team's dynamics to know whether or not this could be a comfortable or uncomfortable situation for their team. The invitation isn't first given just as the teams are meeting at the net. There is enough time for collective decision-making. I don't think there is one definite way to approach it because all teams have different dynamics. |
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Post by trojansc on Dec 1, 2023 22:16:53 GMT -5
I’m honestly just surprised to see that Baylor prays after matches because I never thought of them as that religious on an institution compared to other schools. When I was in college we played against liberty and they never asked us to pray. That’s the type of school I would expect that from, not Baylor. But I don’t see a problem with it. Really? I mean, I always thought of Baylor as just a notch below BYU-Liberty. Maybe close in tier to Pepperdine. Baylor is certainly not comparable to Jesuit schools, in my experience (Georgetown, LMU, Marquette, Santa Clara, etc). |
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Post by saywhatnow on Dec 1, 2023 22:21:14 GMT -5
ah yes the girls on the volleyball team are totally to blame for that They've got the name on their shirts, and the praying volleyballers were certainly part of it in the past. are you really blaming the volleyball team for past transgressions?!?! |
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Post by donut on Dec 1, 2023 22:23:21 GMT -5
I just think it's inappropriate. If Kentucky players want to pray somewhere in their own capacity post-match, I'm sure they are capable of doing so. yall are so scared of people liking God 😭😭 like Baylor didn’t put a gun to their heads. It’s just a kind gesture that Kentucky can decide for themselves if they want to. Not every player of the team has to accept. It’s literally just an offer. An openly gay poster defending Baylor like this is certainly a choice. |
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Post by saywhatnow on Dec 1, 2023 22:25:11 GMT -5
Can you think of anything that would stop a coach from instructing their captain to say no? I think maybe some examples of why you believe a coach should make that decision would be beneficial to this conversation. Your opinion on whether it should be presented to the coach or captain is also one I'd like to hear given how you've phrased this post. The coach is the ultimate facilitator of team culture. I imagine many coaches have a decent enough understanding of their team's dynamics to know whether or not this could be a comfortable or uncomfortable situation for their team. The invitation isn't first given just as the teams are meeting at the net. There is enough time for collective decision-making. I don't think there is one definite way to approach it because all teams have different dynamics. as a previous coach we played a religious institution every season. We asked the team every season how they wanted to approach the prayer circle. If playing away, we also amended our uniform to be respectful of their rules. The team always appreciated the offer to pray. It was never a big deal. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 22:25:11 GMT -5
yall are so scared of people liking God 😭😭 like Baylor didn’t put a gun to their heads. It’s just a kind gesture that Kentucky can decide for themselves if they want to. Not every player of the team has to accept. It’s literally just an offer. An openly gay poster defending Baylor like this is certainly a choice. because I’m religious and have no problem with Baylor asking Kentucky if they wanna pray together after |
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Post by donut on Dec 1, 2023 22:25:20 GMT -5
I’m honestly just surprised to see that Baylor prays after matches because I never thought of them as that religious on an institution compared to other schools. When I was in college we played against liberty and they never asked us to pray. That’s the type of school I would expect that from, not Baylor. But I don’t see a problem with it. Wait You don’t think Baylor is that religious as an institution?! This is a new take. |
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Post by chenny11 on Dec 1, 2023 22:27:46 GMT -5
I’m honestly just surprised to see that Baylor prays after matches because I never thought of them as that religious on an institution compared to other schools. When I was in college we played against liberty and they never asked us to pray. That’s the type of school I would expect that from, not Baylor. But I don’t see a problem with it. Wait You don’t think Baylor is that religious as an institution?! This is a new take. Thats not what I meant lol, I just meant that it’s not what I personally think of when it comes to schools that would pray after sporting events. I know that they are a religious school. |
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Post by trojansc on Dec 1, 2023 22:28:33 GMT -5
Can you think of anything that would stop a coach from instructing their captain to say no? I think maybe some examples of why you believe a coach should make that decision would be beneficial to this conversation. Your opinion on whether it should be presented to the coach or captain is also one I'd like to hear given how you've phrased this post. The coach is the ultimate facilitator of team culture. I imagine many coaches have a decent enough understanding of their team's dynamics to know whether or not this could be a comfortable or uncomfortable situation for their team. The invitation isn't first given just as the teams are meeting at the net. There is enough time for collective decision-making. I don't think there is one definite way to approach it because all teams have different dynamics. So depending on the team dynamics - Baylor should present the option to a captain or a coach depending on the opposing team's dynamics? Just trying to understand cause I don't think it was clarified whether you believe a coach or captain should be presenting this - unless your answer is 'IDK' or that if you were Baylor you wouldn't know how to determine it. |
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Post by chenny11 on Dec 1, 2023 22:28:52 GMT -5
I’m honestly just surprised to see that Baylor prays after matches because I never thought of them as that religious on an institution compared to other schools. When I was in college we played against liberty and they never asked us to pray. That’s the type of school I would expect that from, not Baylor. But I don’t see a problem with it. Really? I mean, I always thought of Baylor as just a notch below BYU-Liberty. Maybe close in tier to Pepperdine. Baylor is certainly not comparable to Jesuit schools, in my experience (Georgetown, LMU, Marquette, Santa Clara, etc). This is so funny because I genuinely had no idea half of these schools even had religious affiliations |
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Post by houstonbear15 on Dec 1, 2023 22:28:56 GMT -5
yall are so scared of people liking God 😭😭 like Baylor didn’t put a gun to their heads. It’s just a kind gesture that Kentucky can decide for themselves if they want to. Not every player of the team has to accept. It’s literally just an offer. No. It's more like I think it's ridiculous that Rape and Murder U is out here making a big production out of liking God. So which players within the volleyball program had anything to do with what happened under a previous administration at Baylor? Trying to weaponize sexual assault against the very population it has the biggest impact on is... |
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Post by trojansc on Dec 1, 2023 22:30:07 GMT -5
Does anyone know of a history of other captains who refused?
I mean, we already knew Khalia was already a queen, but, just curious if there are others.
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Post by donut on Dec 1, 2023 22:30:13 GMT -5
An openly gay poster defending Baylor like this is certainly a choice. because I’m religious and have no problem with Baylor asking Kentucky if they wanna pray together after lmk when you educate yourself on Baylor’s anti-LGBT history. This is a very sad take, IMO. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Dec 1, 2023 22:31:57 GMT -5
No. It's more like I think it's ridiculous that Rape and Murder U is out here making a big production out of liking God. So which players within the volleyball program had anything to do with what happened under a previous administration at Baylor? Trying to weaponize sexual assault against the very population it has the biggest impact on is... The ones who did not support their teammate who had to transfer away in shame after being raped by a football player? JFYI, that was the group that "started" the prayer tradition to prove their holiness. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2023 22:33:13 GMT -5
because I’m religious and have no problem with Baylor asking Kentucky if they wanna pray together after lmk when you educate yourself on Baylor’s anti-LGBT history. This is a very sad take, IMO. me defending Baylor asking Kentucky to pray doesn’t mean I defend every single thing they do as a university |
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