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Post by knapplc on Dec 3, 2023 8:22:26 GMT -5
I've been pointing this out on VT for at least two years. It is baffling this myth continues to persist. |
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Post by jwvolley on Dec 3, 2023 9:07:24 GMT -5
Is a full scholarship commitment for 4 years or until they graduate? Many players are graduating early. I assume using summer session classes to achieve that. Extending aid with a graduate stipend when combined with NIL for an established player could present a nice financial incentive to stay without a scholarship. But is that happening? Stanfordvb is just making things up. All schools in the Power 5 conferences have mandated since at least 2016 that if a scholarship is offered the first semester of a student athlete’s career, that they are guaranteed all four years as long as they remain in good standing with the school. Um no, he isn't. I know of multiple players who 100% for a fact were given 3.5 scholarships recently. The whole point is technically starting them off scholarship. |
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Post by GoGophs on Dec 3, 2023 9:15:05 GMT -5
Stanfordvb is just making things up. All schools in the Power 5 conferences have mandated since at least 2016 that if a scholarship is offered the first semester of a student athlete’s career, that they are guaranteed all four years as long as they remain in good standing with the school. Um no, he isn't. I know of multiple players who 100% for a fact were given 3.5 scholarships recently. The whole point is technically starting them off scholarship. and the mystery continues... |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 3, 2023 9:17:55 GMT -5
Doesn’t the NCAA also have a thing where you can keep a graduating senior on scholarship and have an early-enrolled freshman also on scholarship? I remember that was the whole thing with Caffey - Cook had used that exception to keep her on scholarship while bringing in the 2022 freshmen early, and when she tried to come back for her final year, the NCAA was like, “nope, the only reason we allowed you to exceed the 12-schollie cap was that we thought Caffey was graduating, so she cannot be on scholarship here in the fall.”
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Post by bootswiththefur on Dec 3, 2023 9:20:20 GMT -5
I'd be dissapointed to see Gary and Haworth leave Indiana after the program's most successful season in a long time. Seems like things are finally starting to click and with some strong recruiting classes coming in the next few years I really hope they chose to stay the course and fight to get the hoosiers to the tournament next year. crossing my fingers that it's just speculation...
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Post by Longhorn20 on Dec 3, 2023 9:35:33 GMT -5
Today is day 1, right?. Anyone surprising in yet?
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Post by veebz17 on Dec 3, 2023 9:42:42 GMT -5
I'd be dissapointed to see Gary and Haworth leave Indiana after the program's most successful season in a long time. Seems like things are finally starting to click and with some strong recruiting classes coming in the next few years I really hope they chose to stay the course and fight to get the hoosiers to the tournament next year. crossing my fingers that it's just speculation... I hope they stay too. It would be a shame to leave when the program is on the rise. I love a good rags to riches story |
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Post by hipsterfilth on Dec 3, 2023 9:48:41 GMT -5
Stanfordvb is just making things up. All schools in the Power 5 conferences have mandated since at least 2016 that if a scholarship is offered the first semester of a student athlete’s career, that they are guaranteed all four years as long as they remain in good standing with the school. Um no, he isn't. I know of multiple players who 100% for a fact were given 3.5 scholarships recently. The whole point is technically starting them off scholarship. “if the scholarship is offered the first semester” In the case of a 3.5 schollie, isn’t the point that they weren’t on a schollie first semester, ergo not entitled to the “handshake 3.5 year schollie”? Or maybe I’m misinterpreting. The point of the 3.5 schollie seems to be to guarantee the ability to yank the schollie later hence “tough convos about playing time” and “portal shopping”. Not sure if the scenario you’re aware of is what the one(s) I’m thinking of tho. |
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Post by SayonaraTachikara on Dec 3, 2023 10:06:13 GMT -5
Today is day 1, right?. Anyone surprising in yet? Possibly, but those that actually have access to the information or tweet it out are probably still sleeping. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 3, 2023 10:16:10 GMT -5
Today is day 1, right?. Anyone surprising in yet? Possibly, but those that actually have access to the information or tweet it out are probably still sleeping. It’s 9 am. Rise and shine and pour the tea. |
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Post by vbjustice on Dec 3, 2023 10:21:59 GMT -5
Please no one from Texas A&M enter the portal. I like what I see that’s being built there.
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Dec 3, 2023 10:56:40 GMT -5
Please no one from Texas A&M enter the portal. I like what I see that’s being built there. I think you're fine. It's hard to leave a cult. |
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Post by vbfamily on Dec 3, 2023 11:00:12 GMT -5
Stanfordvb is just making things up. All schools in the Power 5 conferences have mandated since at least 2016 that if a scholarship is offered the first semester of a student athlete’s career, that they are guaranteed all four years as long as they remain in good standing with the school. Um no, he isn't. I know of multiple players who 100% for a fact were given 3.5 scholarships recently. The whole point is technically starting them off scholarship. Yes, I know the same. However, if you sign a student athlete to get a scholarship in semester/year one at a P5, it is the four-year deal as long they remain in good standing. However, many coaches do "short money". Don't pay first semester and then start January or even offer a 1/3 where the scholarship goes into effect year two. This has been quite common during the Covid extra year. I know some top players that paid for their first term or even first year to go where they wanted. Often there are incoming academic scholarships and some NIL that can cover quite a bit of that. It is pretty easy to see on signing date. Does the school post the "signing" of that player on that date or is it just on the student athlete Instagram? Schools post "walk-ons" once admitted (which is what that athlete is to start with), and fees have been paid. |
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Post by rainbowbadger on Dec 3, 2023 11:04:57 GMT -5
Um no, he isn't. I know of multiple players who 100% for a fact were given 3.5 scholarships recently. The whole point is technically starting them off scholarship. Yes, I know the same. However, if you sign a student athlete to get a scholarship in semester/year one at a P5, it is the four-year deal as long they remain in good standing. However, many coaches do "short money". Don't pay first semester and then start January or even offer a 1/3 where the scholarship goes into effect year two. This has been quite common during the Covid extra year. I know some top players that paid for their first term or even first year to go where they wanted. Often there are incoming academic scholarships and some NIL that can cover quite a bit of that. It is pretty easy to see on signing date. Does the school post the "signing" of that player on that date or is it just on the student athlete Instagram? Schools post "walk-ons" once admitted (which is what that athlete is to start with), and fees have been paid. Thanks for the insider knowledge - I trust you would know! I do know that some schools do their best to announce the entire class at once, so they work with Admissions to get their entire class admitted and fees paid by Signing Day. Not all schools can/will do this, but I know Wisconsin did this year - they announced all six of our 2024s together, when media reports have confirmed that two are walk-ons and one is on a partial. |
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Post by Norah Sus on Dec 3, 2023 11:28:30 GMT -5
Um no, he isn't. I know of multiple players who 100% for a fact were given 3.5 scholarships recently. The whole point is technically starting them off scholarship. Yes, I know the same. However, if you sign a student athlete to get a scholarship in semester/year one at a P5, it is the four-year deal as long they remain in good standing. However, many coaches do "short money". Don't pay first semester and then start January or even offer a 1/3 where the scholarship goes into effect year two. This has been quite common during the Covid extra year. I know some top players that paid for their first term or even first year to go where they wanted. Often there are incoming academic scholarships and some NIL that can cover quite a bit of that. It is pretty easy to see on signing date. Does the school post the "signing" of that player on that date or is it just on the student athlete Instagram? Schools post "walk-ons" once admitted (which is what that athlete is to start with), and fees have been paid. Thank you (and jwvolley) for clarifying. I was under the impression that the NCAA’s ‘one-time exception’ of offering an athlete only a partial-year scholarship was done away with by P5 when they promised four years if receiving aid on year 1. It seems this isn’t the case. - referring to bylaw15.3.3.1.1 (d) - And by “under the impression” I mean that I was told that by a currently active P5 head coach (of a different sport but not one that uses different rules than VB.) Anyway sorry for thinking stanfordvb was making things up; and thanks for the lesson! |
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