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Post by gogophers on Jan 2, 2024 13:38:30 GMT -5
Then, I'm flummoxed over the Booth transfer. You'd think she could have gone to Nebraska or Texas, if she wanted to. Why would anyone who could rake in the big bucks in one or the other of those schools go anywhere else? Flummoxed, really? Big bucks is relative to one's situation. Her dad was a nba player and is currently the gm for a nba team. Yes, really. I work with and know quite a few extremely wealthy individuals. Most may offer assistance, as and when needed, sure; but all require their kids to stand on their own, earn on their own. None are just handing out six figure checks to their college aged kids, to spend however they like. Of course, my experience isn't going to be universally true. By the same token, the idea that one shouldn't be surprised just because her family is well-off strikes me as illogical. So, yes, I'd be surprised if the daughter of a highly paid executive turned down the chance to leave college with, say, a couple of hundred thou in the bank--her own money, not a cent of it a gift from daddy, assuming daddy would even consider giving his college aged daughter that much money to spend as she likes. And I'd say that, even if there was a significant difference between CB's chances at winning a "natty"--her professed goal--at Wisconsin compared with Nebraska; even if Nebraska or a well-heeled Texas could offer little more than financial remuneration. Where there is no such significance difference in winning, then, yes, I wonder what the thought process was for preferring Wisconsin over Nebraska--assuming the money difference in amount really is what some here are suggesting.
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Post by bborr on Jan 2, 2024 13:48:18 GMT -5
I think it gets exaggerated, but some of your questions are good ones. As I understand it, the collective for WVB at Nebraska was given $5M to use over 10 years. According to one commenter, there were two $5MM contributions to Nebraska's NIL, which if true, would mean an average of $70K, which would imply $100K+ for any of the better known players. That would be over and above the scholarship money. The two money streams combined would be, would it not, far more than most NCAA players who turn pro after graduation, but who aren't NT level talent, get for playing in PR or France or Germany or someplace like that? What do players in the new American pro leagues make? Surely, nothing like that. Who makes more money? The average Nebraska volleyball player on scholarship (counting the scholarship, too) or the average WNBA player? How about the average LPGA tour player? Then that one commenter is the only one who seems to be aware of that. The one deal was announced with fanfare; no other deal has been publicly acknowledged since. That said, women’s pro sports don’t pay that much, so yea, NIL could definitely keep a volleyball player from leaving before their eligibility is up.
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Post by gogophers on Jan 2, 2024 13:59:11 GMT -5
She covered that in an article in The Athletic earlier this year: "It’s no wonder, then, why so many players from other schools have such respect for Wisconsin and why the Badgers present an intriguing option for potential transfers. Booth, who played against Wisconsin twice as a freshman at Minnesota last season, was a first-team all-Big Ten performer. She was so impressed while standing across the net from Wisconsin with the passion and investment its players and coaches possessed that Booth’s first text after entering the transfer portal went to Sheffield around 11 p.m. on a weeknight. She still had his number from when she was recruited as an eighth-grader. Her message, she recalled, was to the point: Hey. I want to play for you. Sheffield called back the next morning, and Booth committed without even visiting campus again." "She was so impressed while standing across the net from Wisconsin," etc. With due respect, the idea that one can evaluate "the passion and investment its players and coaches possessed" merely by standing and observing across the net when playing them sounds like nonsense. There's a lot to know and like about Wisconsin, and obviously she liked what she knew. But just from standing at the net? Hooboy. What some writers will say. And should I note churlishly that on one of those two occasions in which Booth supposedly turned her attention from her blocking assignments to observing all that passion on the part of the Badger players and coaches, Minn swept Wisconsin?
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Post by rjaege on Jan 2, 2024 14:08:00 GMT -5
According to one commenter, there were two $5MM contributions to Nebraska's NIL, which if true, would mean an average of $70K, which would imply $100K+ for any of the better known players. That would be over and above the scholarship money. The two money streams combined would be, would it not, far more than most NCAA players who turn pro after graduation, but who aren't NT level talent, get for playing in PR or France or Germany or someplace like that? What do players in the new American pro leagues make? Surely, nothing like that. Who makes more money? The average Nebraska volleyball player on scholarship (counting the scholarship, too) or the average WNBA player? How about the average LPGA tour player? Then that one commenter is the only one who seems to be aware of that. The one deal was announced with fanfare; no other deal has been publicly acknowledged since. That said, women’s pro sports don’t pay that much, so yea, NIL could definitely keep a volleyball player from leaving before their eligibility is up. After checking I was wrong, there was one donor pledging $500000/ yr for 10 years.
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Post by vbdiva on Jan 2, 2024 14:10:44 GMT -5
I have no real problem with students athletes cashing in on their NIL, but when NIL transforms into a conduit for a few well heeled boosters to drive the recruiting, then the whole endeavor just doesn't interest me anymore. There is no functional difference between that and professional sport. Also, what is legal for state universities depends on state law, so that just amplifies the unfairness in a really random way. The boosters should be investing in the professional leagues if they are actually interested in progressing the sport rather than strangling it by propping up a select few programs. People investing in NIL are not interested in progressing the sport. They’re interested in their favorite school winning. That’s why I donate to NIL. If that creates disinterest in you I can hardly blame you, but not to get personal, no one cares. We have no mechanism to curb it, and no white knight on the horizon to save collegiate sports from this anarchy, so your favorite program either joins in on some level or they create a major obstacle to winning that has to be overcome somehow. Stanford has been creating all kinds of obstacles for decades no one else has to compete with, so it can be done. But it sure makes it more difficult. It’s each program’s choice how they want to move forward. If people want to get self righteous about the hows and whys of losing, go for it. But it’s still losing, and losing still flat out sucks as a fan no matter how self righteous you get about it. Is this John Cook's burner account?
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Post by eyeroll2021 on Jan 2, 2024 14:17:27 GMT -5
People investing in NIL are not interested in progressing the sport. They’re interested in their favorite school winning. That’s why I donate to NIL. If that creates disinterest in you I can hardly blame you, but not to get personal, no one cares. We have no mechanism to curb it, and no white knight on the horizon to save collegiate sports from this anarchy, so your favorite program either joins in on some level or they create a major obstacle to winning that has to be overcome somehow. Stanford has been creating all kinds of obstacles for decades no one else has to compete with, so it can be done. But it sure makes it more difficult. It’s each program’s choice how they want to move forward. If people want to get self righteous about the hows and whys of losing, go for it. But it’s still losing, and losing still flat out sucks as a fan no matter how self righteous you get about it. Is this John Cook's burner account? Lol if you've read slxpress ' posts, you know he's a Texas homer. Which, admittedly, would be a perfect cover, but then I'd ask why JC is spending so much time watching all of Texas' matches and offcourt shenanigans
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Post by ilalum92 on Jan 2, 2024 14:24:44 GMT -5
Can we get more masc gays in this thread? Yes please! I'm an NBA/MMA fan over Drag race any day of the week.
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Post by vbdiva on Jan 2, 2024 14:25:06 GMT -5
Is this John Cook's burner account? Lol if you've read slxpress ' posts, you know he's a Texas homer. Which, admittedly, would be a perfect cover, but then I'd ask why JC is spending so much time watching all of Texas' matches and offcourt shenanigans Cus he wants to be them/her... probably dresses around his hotel room in a burnt orange nighty with cowboy boots, pretending to be Destinee Hooker, or in his drag name, Hooker Destiny.
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Post by staticb on Jan 2, 2024 14:26:04 GMT -5
I'm still hung up on the claims that there is that much NIL money out there at a few top schools. So, if you're Carolyn J, how much of a pay cut do you have to take just to get playing time at PSU? Penn State obviously does not have the NIL resources that Nebraska or Texas do, but they have a pretty dedicated booster program and the biggest alumni network in the country. I’m sure the PSU girls are getting a good amount of NIL money. Enough at least that a Nebraska player would feel okay transferring there. The PSU girls also see do post a good amount of promotions on their instagram from local businesses. Penn State was rumored to be at the forefront/early adopters of NIL deals that's why they got all the transfers the past two years. It wouldn't surprise me if they are in the Top 5 average for volleyball NIL.
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Post by vbdiva on Jan 2, 2024 14:28:02 GMT -5
Penn State obviously does not have the NIL resources that Nebraska or Texas do, but they have a pretty dedicated booster program and the biggest alumni network in the country. I’m sure the PSU girls are getting a good amount of NIL money. Enough at least that a Nebraska player would feel okay transferring there. The PSU girls also see do post a good amount of promotions on their instagram from local businesses. Penn State was rumored to be at the forefront/early adopters of NIL deals that's why they got all the transfers the past two years. It wouldn't surprise me if they are in the Top 5 average for volleyball NIL. Def not with Russ Rose money.... he is/was the cheapest coach in American history.... he would count out how many nike tees and socks he gave you every year, the rest would go to "storage" dungeon which looked like a nike version of hoarders.
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Post by USC✌🏼 on Jan 2, 2024 14:42:20 GMT -5
Penn State was rumored to be at the forefront/early adopters of NIL deals that's why they got all the transfers the past two years. It wouldn't surprise me if they are in the Top 5 average for volleyball NIL. Def not with Russ Rose money.... he is/was the cheapest coach in American history.... he would count out how many nike tees and socks he gave you every year, the rest would go to "storage" dungeon which looked like a nike version of hoarders. Lmaoooo
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Post by herecomesthebusboom on Jan 2, 2024 15:44:47 GMT -5
Can we get more masc gays in this thread? Yes please! I'm an NBA/MMA fan over Drag race any day of the week. Y’all don’t get a special cookie for being masc… also you’re inferring a lot about my gender expression based on one reference I made lol. Wild. Maybe we stop gendering stuff and let people enjoy things idk.
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Post by huskyvolley on Jan 2, 2024 15:47:38 GMT -5
I might have missed it, but everyone from the Nebraska starting lineup responded to TL's commitment post except for Batenhorst, Krause, and Orr.
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Post by babybacksets on Jan 2, 2024 15:50:10 GMT -5
I might have missed it, but everyone from the Nebraska starting lineup responded to TL's commitment post except for Batenhorst, Krause, and Orr. Maybe all 3 will be gone by May so they don’t bed to bother
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Post by babybacksets on Jan 2, 2024 15:53:43 GMT -5
Yes please! I'm an NBA/MMA fan over Drag race any day of the week. Y’all don’t get a special cookie for being masc… also you’re inferring a lot about my gender expression based on one reference I made lol. Wild. Maybe we stop gendering stuff and let people enjoy things idk. There also aren’t any special cookies for getting people to recognize drag race references, but they show up anyway and often. It’s a little give and take, No need to get offended.
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