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Post by braceminn on Nov 11, 2024 23:09:31 GMT -5
What has been the arc of our passing stats in conference? Obviously, Purdue and last week stand out. What has been the arc of our serving efficiency? We were at 47%. In set 1 vs Oregon we scored only 2 points on our serve. In set 2 we scored scored 6 points, but Grote was the only server to win 2. And Cline for Ore rattled off 6 in a row to take us out of contention: 7-6 to 7-12 She did it again in set 3 (see below) 12-13 to 12-18 You cannot win a match if you don't win points when you are serving. The corollary, of course, you can't win if you give up these kinds of service runs. We have to up our serving pressure as I mentioned a few days ago Did we get complacent after NW, tOSU, MI, & MSU? Oregon's setter Cline came to the service line 5x in the three sets pts serves won attempted 3 4 0 1 6 7 0 1 5 614 19 74%, an impossible number to overcome unless you have servers doing much the same We won a couple of 5th sets early in the year doing much the same. A 4 or 5 pt service run in a game to 15 tends to knock the stuffing out of your opponent. We have nothing to lose in Lincoln. Serve 'em tough & see if Bergen Reilly can better a weak pass. Oregon's rather outrageous hitting% speaks to how much in system they were that our normally good blocking was nearly non-existent. I'd give Chloe Ng another shot as the serving specialist. Wouldn't it be nice if we had one bench player who was a weapon here? In the one game she had the role she went Player ATT Pts Pts Pct
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Chloe Ng 27 18 9 .667 Neither McGhie, Gray, nor Crowl have consistently pressured opponents though Crowl had some success vs Washington Z get the spin off your serve so it knuckles Shaff get back to near 50% pts won when you serve Grote good stuff but not consistent enough Hanson hit it hard but not long (release from 3' behind the line?) Acevedo help your 'mates do more like you! SSpecial someone please step up as a leader We were actually fortunate that Cline was 5th or 6th in Oregon's serve rotation or it would have been worse for us By the same token our best shot ought to start with Acevedo behind the line. She's the server most likely to win us points and, like in baseball, you want you leadoff hitter to be someone who get on base a lot. Cline did an excellent job at the service line. Did she specifically target anyone and do you have any serve receive insights from the game and who are our strongest passers? How should we adjust for Thursday match? I saw at one point we had 2 players in serve receive, I can’t remember who was back there with Z but that didn’t last long |
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Post by midwest83 on Nov 12, 2024 3:08:21 GMT -5
What has been the arc of our passing stats in conference? Obviously, Purdue and last week stand out. What has been the arc of our serving efficiency? We were at 47%. In set 1 vs Oregon we scored only 2 points on our serve. In set 2 we scored scored 6 points, but Grote was the only server to win 2. And Cline for Ore rattled off 6 in a row to take us out of contention: 7-6 to 7-12 She did it again in set 3 (see below) 12-13 to 12-18 You cannot win a match if you don't win points when you are serving. The corollary, of course, you can't win if you give up these kinds of service runs. We have to up our serving pressure as I mentioned a few days ago Did we get complacent after NW, tOSU, MI, & MSU? Oregon's setter Cline came to the service line 5x in the three sets pts serves won attempted 3 4 0 1 6 7 0 1 5 614 19 74%, an impossible number to overcome unless you have servers doing much the same We won a couple of 5th sets early in the year doing much the same. A 4 or 5 pt service run in a game to 15 tends to knock the stuffing out of your opponent. We have nothing to lose in Lincoln. Serve 'em tough & see if Bergen Reilly can better a weak pass. Oregon's rather outrageous hitting% speaks to how much in system they were that our normally good blocking was nearly non-existent. I'd give Chloe Ng another shot as the serving specialist. Wouldn't it be nice if we had one bench player who was a weapon here? In the one game she had the role she went Player ATT Pts Pts Pct
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Chloe Ng 27 18 9 .667 Neither McGhie, Gray, nor Crowl have consistently pressured opponents though Crowl had some success vs Washington Z get the spin off your serve so it knuckles Shaff get back to near 50% pts won when you serve Grote good stuff but not consistent enough Hanson hit it hard but not long (release from 3' behind the line?) Acevedo help your 'mates do more like you! SSpecial someone please step up as a leader We were actually fortunate that Cline was 5th or 6th in Oregon's serve rotation or it would have been worse for us By the same token our best shot ought to start with Acevedo behind the line. She's the server most likely to win us points and, like in baseball, you want you leadoff hitter to be someone who get on base a lot. Cline did an excellent job at the service line. Did she specifically target anyone and do you have any serve receive insights from the game and who are our strongest passers? How should we adjust for Thursday match? I saw at one point we had 2 players in serve receive, I can’t remember who was back there with Z but that didn’t last long It was Z and Julia. They put Wucherer back in with a 9-8 lead in the 3rd but only had 2 back with Wucherer pulled up front. After we got aced twice in a row he put Acevedo back in to have 3 back and they were able to side out. |
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Post by pavsec5row10 on Nov 12, 2024 10:49:55 GMT -5
Sorry for the delay on posting the updated Serving stats. Was still recovering from being swept over the weekend. I felt like Oregon was passing dimes all day on Saturday. Not sure why we didn't apply more pressure, other than maybe due to having too many SE against Washington. | Player | ATT | Pts Won | Pts Lost | Pct | Ace | SE | K | HE | Blk | Opp K | Opp E |
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| Chloe Ng | 27 | 18 | 9 | .667 | 3 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 5 | 6 | | Alex Acevedo | 311 | 166 | 145 | .534 | 21 | 16 | 73 | 19 | 31 | 109 | 40 | | Lydia Grote | 293 | 145 | 148 | .495 | 26 | 35 | 74 | 25 | 19 | 88 | 26 | | Melani Shaffmaster | 340 | 158 | 182 | .465 | 21 | 30 | 68 | 21 | 38 | 131 | 30 | | Julia Hanson | 297 | 138 | 159 | .465 | 26 | 32 | 61 | 27 | 20 | 101 | 30 | | Elise McGhie | 188 | 84 | 104 | .447 | 10 | 8 | 30 | 15 | 18 | 81 | 26 | | Zeynep Palabiyik | 315 | 137 | 178 | .435 | 12 | 23 | 60 | 23 | 35 | 134 | 27 | | Skylar Gray | 67 | 28 | 39 | .418 | 8 | 12 | 8 | 2 | 4 | 27 | 6 | | Mckenna Wucherer | 49 | 20 | 29 | .408 | 5 | 16 | 7 | 0 | 1 | 13 | 8 | | Kate Thibault | 25 | 10 | 15 | .400 | 0 | 6 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 3 | | Lauren Crowl | 74 | 25 | 49 | .338 | 5 | 5 | 10 | 6 | 3 | 38 | 6 | | Calissa Minatee | 22 | 6 | 16 | .273 | 1 | 6 | 1 | 3 | 0 | 8 | 3 | | TOTALS | 1859 | 873 | 986 | .470 | 126 | 177 | 376 | 129 | 162 | 686 | 200 |
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Post by mcmike on Nov 12, 2024 12:58:01 GMT -5
Q from braceminn Cline did an excellent job at the service line. Did she specifically target anyone and do you have any serve receive insights from the game and who are our strongest passers? How should we adjust for Thursday match? I saw at one point we had 2 players in serve receive, I can’t remember who was back there with Z but that didn’t last long
I did a detailed analysis, but once again, forgot to save it before it disappeared. DRAT!! In set 2 we were ahead 7-6 when Cline (setter) went to the service line. We were in ro1 with Grote on the left and Wookie on the right Wookie shanked left and behind herself off the court Then she was aced on a short float to the attack line t.o. MN at 7-8 Wookie's midcourt pass (behind attack line) came back to her as a backset and she went line but missed Wookie passed a short float (badly) near the antenna and made a one handed save across net after Shaff put pass in the air, but Ore scored in transition after Grote was dug later in the point Acevedo subbed for Wookie and was immediately targeted hard and deep (ended on Taraflex), Grote got the set, hit a ball that was dug and Ore scored 1BiT at 7-12 Z dimed a short float and Phoebe scored middle FBSO Cline also had a serve at 16-22 that Hanson overpassed. It was a wicked serve in Zone5 deep to the sideline and Hanson was lucky to get it up. Ore made a HE. In set 3 Cline came to the service line after their RS Gregoire?sp? rolled an ankle at 12-12. We were not in ro1 When the smoke cleared it was 13-18 after Cline went long for a SE. Acevedo missed high hands Thibault aced on a short float Acevedo hitting error into triple block Ore scored in transition after a great dig Wookie, in for Acevedo, had a HE into the net (ugly swing) MN remains susceptible to a Colvin(Pur) or Cline(Ore) or other hard driven low spin serves. It appears that we are being coached to not receive overhanded. So our backcourt gets caught trying to set a platform near shoulder height Our opponents catch us in seams. Sometimes Wookie's tentativeness leads Z to poach with ill effects. Oregon, in particular, routinely set triple blocks, when we were OOS leading to conjecture that a set to Hanson or Wookie in the back court might be more successful than giving the OH no hitting angle. One/some of the services has passing stats: evollve.net/, volleydork, volleymetrics |
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Post by eskerjaz on Nov 12, 2024 21:05:45 GMT -5
Preview for this week:
Keegan is really good with his words. It's the right amount of being honest whilst being empathetic, which for the more intense fans makes it easier to understand where he's coming from. I really like the questions being asked. They're tough, but come from a good place. Wish they were mic'd up better. I especially like the sense of urgency for the seniors; the "do it for her" mentality. Julia has really come into her own; it comes across when she is interviewed. I'm not sure what her prep ranking was (I know, roll eyes) but with others in her class, even within her own Minnesota class, she was overshadowed as an undersized (her 6'1 looks sus next to Wucherer) hitter with incredible hops. Mel: "the game told us we weren't good enough to win that". That's a very mature way to look at a loss. The team definitely registered that giant kick in the butt.
After a real letdown of a home weekend, I just want to see some tenacity. Every player on this squad is capable of it. This team is in much better standing than the 2023 team with Landfair losing to Rutgers/Maryland.
Also Minny, along with the LA schools, ORE, WAS, and ILL are the only schools (states) not cancelled to me after last week.
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Post by douglass9 on Nov 13, 2024 7:44:37 GMT -5
I looked at the passing stats from Evollve and they show us 16th. 16th in the country, I will take it. Nine Big10 teams are ranked in the top 30. Maybe we have a tough conference. Most of any conference. Thanks for the states Mcmike.
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Post by comet on Nov 13, 2024 8:14:27 GMT -5
I looked at the passing stats from Evollve and they show us 16th. 16th in the country, I will take it. Nine Big10 teams are ranked in the top 30. Maybe we have a tough conference. Most of any conference. Thanks for the states Mcmike. Hmmm...that doesn’t sound right. I don't think there's any way we are 16th in the country in passing. |
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Post by mnvb56 on Nov 13, 2024 8:38:27 GMT -5
This isn’t really related to the MN 2024 topics, but I figured it was the best place for folks to see this nice article about Matt and Jen Houk and what they’ve been doing since leaving the Gophers, and their large incoming class of MN high school volleyball players.. This is a gift link to the StarTribune article: How Montana State Nabbed Four of Minnesota’s Top Volleybal Recruitsl |
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Post by zero-rotation outside hitter on Nov 13, 2024 8:44:16 GMT -5
I looked at the passing stats from Evollve and they show us 16th. 16th in the country, I will take it. Nine Big10 teams are ranked in the top 30. Maybe we have a tough conference. Most of any conference. Thanks for the states Mcmike. Hmmm...that doesn’t sound right. I don't think there's any way we are 16th in the country in passing. Yeah, I don't see it happening either. Would have to beat either Nebraska or WI (both are away) to have a chance, IMO. The gophs have been so up and down that I could see them losing first round and also making it to Elite 8 (given the right bracket). |
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Post by gopherhim on Nov 13, 2024 9:07:25 GMT -5
I looked at the passing stats from Evollve and they show us 16th. 16th in the country, I will take it. Nine Big10 teams are ranked in the top 30. Maybe we have a tough conference. Most of any conference. Thanks for the states Mcmike. Hmmm...that doesn’t sound right. I don't think there's any way we are 16th in the country in passing. Our Evollve ranking is 16 (overall). I guess Evollve ranks based on your rating score and that rating is an average of your service rating and receive rating. According to their model, the Gophers have a 58.2% probability of winning a point while serving against an "average" team and a 62.3% probability of winning a point while receiving against an "average" team. Minnesota has the 6th highest service rating and 30th highest receive rating. I wouldn't go so far as to say #30 has much to do with how good the passing itself actually is but is reflecting the fact that we have arms that can put the ball away and side out well against an average team (however Evollve determines that). Minnesota is 2-7 against the Evollve top 25 and 5-1 against Evollve 26-50. (#35 Washington is our "worst" loss.) |
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Post by comet on Nov 13, 2024 9:12:49 GMT -5
Hmmm...that doesn’t sound right. I don't think there's any way we are 16th in the country in passing. Our Evollve ranking is 16 (overall). I guess Evollve ranks based on your rating score and that rating is an average of your service rating and receive rating. According to their model, the Gophers have a 58.2% probability of winning a point while serving against an "average" team and a 62.3% probability of winning a point while receiving against an "average" team. Minnesota has the 6th highest service rating and 30th highest receive rating. I wouldn't go so far as to say #30 has much to do with how good the passing itself actually is but is reflecting the fact that we have arms that can put the ball away and side out well against an average team (however Evollve determines that). Minnesota is 2-7 against the Evollve top 25 and 5-1 against Evollve 26-50. (#35 Washington is our "worst" loss.) Ah, that makes more sense being #16 overall. I thought they meant the stats said we were the 16th best passing team in the country. Thanks for clearing that up. 👌 |
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Post by maigrey on Nov 13, 2024 9:23:47 GMT -5
I looked at the passing stats from Evollve and they show us 16th. 16th in the country, I will take it. Nine Big10 teams are ranked in the top 30. Maybe we have a tough conference. Most of any conference. Thanks for the states Mcmike. Hmmm...that doesn’t sound right. I don't think there's any way we are 16th in the country in passing. Evollve also rated Jess Mruzik a better passer than Sarah Franklin. Several of their stats haven't passed the eye test, so I don't have confidence in their results. It's also hard to find their algorithms/methodology to review for statistical integrity, so I would take them with a large grain of salt. |
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Post by gopherhim on Nov 13, 2024 9:47:35 GMT -5
Hmmm...that doesn’t sound right. I don't think there's any way we are 16th in the country in passing. Evollve also rated Jess Mruzik a better passer than Sarah Franklin. Several of their stats haven't passed the eye test, so I don't have confidence in their results. It's also hard to find their algorithms/methodology to review for statistical integrity, so I would take them with a large grain of salt. You must be thinking volley.dork on instagram or something because Evollve doesn't score passing like volleymetrics does, which is probably what volley.dork uses for passing stats. In every one of Evollve's metrics that could maybe be associated with how good of a passer a player is (e.g. team hitting % off player X's passes, % of passes converted to a set, etc.), Franklin is ranked higher than Mruzik. But yes everything from Michella Chester's power 10 to Pablo should be taken with a grain of salt haha |
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Post by douglass9 on Nov 13, 2024 10:35:45 GMT -5
I expect this team to go 5 and 1. We beat Wisconsin. We should again. Yes I know we play there and etc etc. Kegan needs to coach his team to victory.
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Post by comet on Nov 13, 2024 10:46:06 GMT -5
I expect this team to go 5 and 1. We beat Wisconsin. We should again. Yes I know we play there and etc etc. Kegan needs to coach his team to victory. We haven't won in Wisconsin since 2018. Mel has never won there. Could be a great way to send her out but doubtful as Wisconsin is playing a lot better than they were earlier in the season. |
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