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Post by rainbowcard on Aug 13, 2024 9:38:08 GMT -5
For those with a current ESPN+ account do you see the Hawaii vs SMU match scheduled ?
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Post by nickvb on Aug 13, 2024 9:45:18 GMT -5
For those with a current ESPN+ account do you see the Hawaii vs SMU match scheduled ? Yes last match on 8/30 in the schedule lineup
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Post by VT Karen on Aug 13, 2024 20:33:23 GMT -5
What 'investing' in WVB might look like: WVB season ticket prices haven't gone up from what they were in 2020, the canceled season. Just to keep up with inflation, a lower bowl season ticket should have gone up around 20% going into the 2024 season. Assuming there are ~ 2,000 lower bowl season tickets, selling for about $50 more each to keep up with inflation for the past four years, that would be an additional $100k. Which is likely enough to hire a recruiting assistant with some promotional duties. Raising prices to keep up with inflation on the other 4,000 fans that regularly attend, another ~ $100K easily. Which could cover additional recruiting expenses. Start putting together back-to-back Sweet 16 appearances, WVB could get another 5% of arena %capacity tacked on annually, and probably convert many general admissions and upper bowl season tickets to lower bowl season tickets. Let's say ~ 500 more lower bowl season tickets yielding an extra $150 in contributions per seat, now that's another $75k. Now raise %capacity utilization about 5% — that adds about five hundred tickets more per match, at an average of ~ $18 per ticket for another $9k per match. If they play sixteen home matches that's another $144k. Summary: invest in an assistant for recruiting and promotion. Bring in a big recruit/transfer or two, market, and raise ticket prices about 20% to keep up with the last four years of inflation. Get to the Sweet Sixteen, do it back-to-back. Increase capacity utilization by another 5%. Do all the above, the program rakes in another $400K to $450K per year. And then contributions to the UH Foundation specified for use by WVB will increase, at least by thousands, and tens of thousands possible. Those are granular, lumpy, big some years and small others. But on average they'd pick up as well. And, negotiate a better media deal. Spectrum, would love to see them have to compete and kick in more. Would like to see an end to geo blocking of broadcasts and excluding of competitors from carrying their broadcasts live. If the broadcaster is going to do those things, the University should get ample compensation for it. Agreed in regards the media deal and broadcasting rights!
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Post by practicesafesets on Aug 13, 2024 20:57:44 GMT -5
Ashli Lum, Kam Libero is the best player in the state per maxpreps. Still some good uncommitteds in the 2025 and 2026 class
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Post by brooselee on Aug 14, 2024 0:32:16 GMT -5
UH already got a commit from Punahou's Kahea Moriwaki. If Ashli wants to walk on, I'm sure Robyn will welcome her but i don't think UH coaches are going to load up on smalls.
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Post by eyelander on Aug 14, 2024 1:46:12 GMT -5
UH already got a commit from Punahou's Kahea Moriwaki. If Ashli wants to walk on, I'm sure Robyn will welcome her but i don't think UH coaches are going to load up on smalls. If Moriwaki is a ‘25 and Lum is a ‘26 and the best libero in the state, wouldn’t it be worth it for UH to go after her?
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Post by babybacksets on Aug 14, 2024 2:37:39 GMT -5
UH already got a commit from Punahou's Kahea Moriwaki. If Ashli wants to walk on, I'm sure Robyn will welcome her but i don't think UH coaches are going to load up on smalls. If Moriwaki is a ‘25 and Lum is a ‘26 and the best libero in the state, wouldn’t it be worth it for UH to go after her? Especially now that teams will have 18 schollies to give out, there’s no real reason to skimp on good local libero talent
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Post by noblesol on Aug 14, 2024 3:13:47 GMT -5
If Moriwaki is a ‘25 and Lum is a ‘26 and the best libero in the state, wouldn’t it be worth it for UH to go after her? Especially now that teams will have 18 schollies to give out, there’s no real reason to skimp on good local libero talent Except it's not a given UH Manoa elects revenue sharing, roster caps, or funding of additional scholarships for any of their programs. They'd have to find the additional consistent cash flow from somewhere, then prioritize what programs get what.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Aug 14, 2024 9:15:29 GMT -5
What 'investing' in WVB might look like: WVB season ticket prices haven't gone up from what they were in 2020, the canceled season. Just to keep up with inflation, a lower bowl season ticket should have gone up around 20% going into the 2024 season. Assuming there are ~ 2,000 lower bowl season tickets, selling for about $50 more each to keep up with inflation for the past four years I’ve been a season ticket holder since 1991 but I’m not willing to continue paying for season tickets if the prices continue to go up while the quality of home matches go down. And I’d be willing to bet that many long- time season ticket holders feel the same way. Do you think money grows on trees? 😡
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Post by noblesol on Aug 14, 2024 12:13:36 GMT -5
What 'investing' in WVB might look like: WVB season ticket prices haven't gone up from what they were in 2020, the canceled season. Just to keep up with inflation, a lower bowl season ticket should have gone up around 20% going into the 2024 season. Assuming there are ~ 2,000 lower bowl season tickets, selling for about $50 more each to keep up with inflation for the past four years I’ve been a season ticket holder since 1991 but I’m not willing to continue paying for season tickets if the prices continue to go up while the quality of home matches go down. And I’d be willing to bet that many long- time season ticket holders feel the same way. Do you think money grows on trees? 😡 I don't like price hikes either. And it's a refrain I've been hearing for years from other long time season ticket holders around me 'this is the last year'. Doesn't have to do with the team on the court really, most weren't there for half the games and frequently strangers from the upper bowl filtered down to take their empty seats. Most of their excuses were they were traveling to Europe, or Japan, or Vegas, or they'd been in the hospital, or were afraid of getting sick (covid), or family was visiting or or or. Well, long lists of reasons I can relate to as I've grown old. But, price hikes are inevitable in a healthy program that wants to stay that way. Kupuna will eventually drop off along the way, for many reasons. Yet healthy programs must keep up with inflation and the march of time, or get buried by it. So the Athletic Director must work with the Coaches and their staff to fund the investments that keep the goose golden. A significant inflation keep up price hike is overdue, and so are some investments in recruiting, and marketing to a younger generation. Or the program will wither away.
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Post by staticb on Aug 14, 2024 13:19:32 GMT -5
Except it's not a given UH Manoa elects revenue sharing, roster caps, or funding of additional scholarships for any of their programs. They'd have to find the additional consistent cash flow from somewhere, then prioritize what programs get what. There was an interview with the AD as well a Tsai article--we are opting in. It looks like all of the MWC is going to opt in. It might not be 100% right away and we aren't obligated to provide all 18 scholarships for vball (and 108 for football) but there will be some sort of increase.
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Post by noblesol on Aug 14, 2024 13:37:41 GMT -5
Except it's not a given UH Manoa elects revenue sharing, roster caps, or funding of additional scholarships for any of their programs. They'd have to find the additional consistent cash flow from somewhere, then prioritize what programs get what. There was an interview with the AD as well a Tsai article--we are opting in. It looks like all of the MWC is going to opt in. It might not be 100% right away and we aren't obligated to provide all 18 scholarships for vball (and 108 for football) but there will be some sort of increase. Do you have links per chance?
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Post by staticb on Aug 14, 2024 14:07:52 GMT -5
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Post by HawaiiMongoose on Aug 14, 2024 17:18:47 GMT -5
There was an interview with the AD as well a Tsai article--we are opting in. It looks like all of the MWC is going to opt in. It might not be 100% right away and we aren't obligated to provide all 18 scholarships for vball (and 108 for football) but there will be some sort of increase. Do you have links per chance? Here are excerpts from Tsai's article confirming that certain coaches expect UH to opt in to the new roster limits defined in the House settlement and that UH does anticipate funding additional scholarships in five "profitable" sports: The NCAA limits baseball teams to the equivalent of 11.7 scholarships. Coach Rich Hill often uses at least 12 players by the fourth inning. But all that will change with the expected approval to set roster limits and increase scholarship distributions. When a federal judge signs off on the measure this week, NCAA Division I teams — if they choose — may disperse more scholarships to more players. The rule would go into effect beginning with the 2025-26 academic year. The proposal calls for changes to many sports’ roster limits. Baseball teams would be allowed to offer full rides to all 34 players on the 2026 roster. Last season’s UH team had 40 players, with the value of 11.7 scholarships spread among 32 players. Under the measure, the ’Bows could award up to 34 scholarships, dispersing full, partial or a combination of both. “It allows us to go as high as we can,” Hill said. “It’ll allow us to offer bigger scholarships and more of them. I see it as a super positive for us and the Big West.” Football currently is limited to offering 85 scholarships. There are 123 players on this season’s UH roster. Under the proposal, next year’s football scholarship and roster limit will be set at 105. With all sports becoming “equivalency” programs — scholarships can be full or partial — a football team can decide how to distribute the 20 additional awards. Hawaii athletic director Craig Angelos said: “The question is: how is everybody, even the power four, going to navigate this?” UH men’s volleyball coach Charlie Wade anticipated the NCAA moving toward a hard roster limit. Through the 2023 season, the Warriors’ roster averaged 20 players, with as many as 24. Last year, Wade reduced the roster to 18 — the proposed limit for the 2025 season. “There are schools with way more than that (this coming season),” Wade said. “I’ve got guys calling me all summer saying, ‘Hey, I want to transfer (to UH).’” But with the expected roster reduction and the talented incoming recruiting class, Wade told them: “I’m not loading up my roster if I’m going to have to cut you (in a year).” Wade added: “And they never heard of this. I said, it’s coming, and it’s coming quicker quicker than you would think, and as early as this summer. And here we are.”UH’s football, men’s basketball, women’s and men’s volleyball, and baseball programs are considered profitable sports when factoring all revenue streams. With a full ride valued at about $40,000, UH would be able to cover the additional 62.8 scholarships for those sports.www.staradvertiser.com/2024/07/30/sports/stephen-tsai-roster-limits-scholarship-distributions-to-bring-new-challenges/
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Post by noblesol on Aug 14, 2024 17:22:48 GMT -5
Here's the Tsai piece, probably behind the S-A paywall: www.staradvertiser.com/2024/07/30/sports/stephen-tsai-roster-limits-scholarship-distributions-to-bring-new-challenges/My take from reading the KHON2 AD interview and the S-A Tsai article re the settlement, is that no implementation plan is in place. There is public speculation and posturing by the AD and some coaches. The UH Manoa revenue sports of football, baseball, MVB, WVB, and MBB appear to be planning for roster caps and additional scholarships, without the revenue in place or a public University commitment yet in place. Wade thinks it's likely coming his way and it's impacting how he approaches current recruiting and roster size planning. Hill (baseball) seems to think it might benefit his program. No comments coming from MBB, WVB, and Football. Angelos seems ready to spin whatever direction he'll need to, but worries about finding the revenue. And while for some of the revenue sports it's speculated they might get promotion within the current athletic budget for additional scholarship plus ups, it may come at the relegation of the other UH Manoa programs.
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