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Post by 808 on Oct 15, 2024 11:08:30 GMT -5
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Post by soljah808 on Oct 15, 2024 11:33:44 GMT -5
I truly can't believe this AD Angelos was able to secure a deal where UH doesn't have to pay for travel subsidies for ANY of our programs going to the Mountain West conference! That is HUGE NEWS!!! The Hawai'i travel costs for MWC destinations likely will be greater as well. But the savings from not paying travel bills for MWC members should more than make up for that. Hawaii was paying between $3-4million for travel subsidies between both the BWC and MWC on top of paying our own teams travel expenses. Now our athletic program can use that money to continually update our facilities and add to our training table hopefully! Right on Greg Angelos! Yessah! |
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Post by kaden on Oct 15, 2024 11:47:27 GMT -5
Recruiting
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Post by kaden on Oct 15, 2024 11:50:37 GMT -5
I agree with those who say our recruiting is suffering. However, for those of you who pray for the return of Angelica, please stop. It is my understanding that she is happy in Sweden and is not coming back. Plus my spies have told me that she and Robyn did not part on friendly terms. We do not need a coach who can recruit and do pr for the program. Robyn is a great instructor, but being a head coach requires a lot more.
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Post by rainbowcard on Oct 15, 2024 11:57:17 GMT -5
Not really the best news for Hawaii to join MWC especially when the top teams of Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State and Utah State will be leaving. Of course this leaves room for Hawaii to continue to be on top of the conference but less room for error due to the very low RPI teams left (even worse than some BW teams) one bright spot will be the addition of UTEP. I also read that they wanted to add one more team from this list; New Mexico State, Idaho, Sacramento State, North Dakota, South Dakota and Northern Arizona.
Will this make recruiting even more difficult for Hawaii? I would think so, especially as this list of teams are not great.
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Post by babybacksets on Oct 15, 2024 12:09:01 GMT -5
Not really the best news for Hawaii to join MWC especially when the top teams of Boise State, Colorado State, Fresno State, San Diego State and Utah State will be leaving. Of course this leaves room for Hawaii to continue to be on top of the conference but less room for error due to the very low RPI teams left (even worse than some BW teams) one bright spot will be the addition of UTEP. I also read that they wanted to add one more team from this list; New Mexico State, Idaho, Sacramento State, North Dakota, South Dakota and Northern Arizona. Will this make recruiting even more difficult for Hawaii? I would think so, especially as this list of teams are not great. Damn I didn’t know all those teams were leaving…now I’m less excited…. Crappier volleyball teams AND less of a chance to watch the Wahine in person. Not much you can do, passing the broke ass Big West was not helping Hawaii at all and unless they change that, it’s still best we leave. Hopefully more strong adds become a possibility for the MWC |
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Post by practicesafesets on Oct 15, 2024 12:42:27 GMT -5
I agree with those who say our recruiting is suffering. However, for those of you who pray for the return of Angelica, please stop. It is my understanding that she is happy in Sweden and is not coming back. Plus my spies have told me that she and Robyn did not part on friendly terms. We do not need a coach who can recruit and do pr for the program. Robyn is a great instructor, but being a head coach requires a lot more. many were speculating some drama. RAM really needs someone on her staff with Mary Wise type salesmanship The move to the MWC should help solidify the Purser commit and provide a better pipeline for Colorado, Utah , Wyoming, and Nevada talent |
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Post by noblesol on Oct 15, 2024 12:50:08 GMT -5
BLUF: For WVB, Hawai'i in the 2026 MWC looks to be a KPI upgrade for both Hawai'i and the future MWC.
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WVB [KPI] for the members of the future MWC w/Hawai'i:
37. UTEP
54. Hawai'i
64. Wyoming
86. San Jose State
90. UNLV
162. Nevada
164. New Mexico
282. Air Force
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88. median KPI
117. avg. KPI
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WVB [KPI] for the members of the BWC w/o Hawai'i:
47. UC-Davis
50. Long Beach State
51. Cal Poly
118. UC-Irvine
145. UC-Santa Barbara
150. UC-San Diego
169. Cal State-Bakersfield
216. Cal State-Northridge
275. UC-Riverside
303. Cal State-Fullerton
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148. median KPI
152. avg. KPI
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Post by rainbowcard on Oct 15, 2024 12:53:04 GMT -5
I agree with those who say our recruiting is suffering. However, for those of you who pray for the return of Angelica, please stop. It is my understanding that she is happy in Sweden and is not coming back. Plus my spies have told me that she and Robyn did not part on friendly terms. We do not need a coach who can recruit and do pr for the program. Robyn is a great instructor, but being a head coach requires a lot more. many were speculating some drama. RAM really needs someone on her staff with Mary Wise type salesmanship The move to the MWC should help solidify the Purser commit and provide a better pipeline for Colorado, Utah , Wyoming, and Nevada talent Colorado and Utah are leaving MWC, but yes Nevada, Northern Cali and maybe even certain Texas players as well we should look into those areas harder going into the future with this move. |
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 15, 2024 12:56:26 GMT -5
BLUF: For WVB, Hawai'i in the 2026 MWC looks to be a KPI upgrade for both Hawai'i and the future MWC. --------------- WVB [KPI] for the members of the future MWC w/Hawai'i: 37. UTEP 54. Hawai'i 64. Wyoming 86. San Jose State 90. UNLV 162. Nevada 164. New Mexico 282. Air Force .... 88. median KPI 117. avg. KPI ----------------- WVB [KPI] for the members of the BWC w/o Hawai'i: 47. UC-Davis 50. Long Beach State 51. Cal Poly 118. UC-Irvine 145. UC-Santa Barbara 150. UC-San Diego 169. Cal State-Bakersfield 216. Cal State-Northridge 275. UC-Riverside 303. Cal State-Fullerton .... 148. median KPI 152. avg. KPI The top of the Big West is more competitive than the top of the MW, but the bottom of the Big West is dreadful. I think over-all, moving to the MW is the best move for Hawai'i (mainly because of the stability it provides for football), but it is a little of a mixed bag for all the other reasons. |
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Post by noblesol on Oct 15, 2024 12:59:01 GMT -5
BLUF: For WVB, Hawai'i in the 2026 MWC looks to be a KPI upgrade for both Hawai'i and the future MWC. --------------- WVB [KPI] for the members of the future MWC w/Hawai'i: 37. UTEP 54. Hawai'i 64. Wyoming 86. San Jose State 90. UNLV 162. Nevada 164. New Mexico 282. Air Force .... 88. median KPI 117. avg. KPI ----------------- WVB [KPI] for the members of the BWC w/o Hawai'i: 47. UC-Davis 50. Long Beach State 51. Cal Poly 118. UC-Irvine 145. UC-Santa Barbara 150. UC-San Diego 169. Cal State-Bakersfield 216. Cal State-Northridge 275. UC-Riverside 303. Cal State-Fullerton .... 148. median KPI 152. avg. KPI The top of the Big West is more competitive than the top of the MW, but the bottom of the Big West is dreadful. I think over-all, moving to the MW is the best move for Hawai'i (mainly because of the stability it provides for football), but it is a little of a mixed bag for all the other reasons. Agreed, although I think the travel issue for Hawai'i isn't as big an issue as some assume. For the BW, the Hawai'i travel day is already six hours on a flight to LAX/SFO. Add a commuter flight or long bus rides in Cali traffic for some destinations. The future MWC for Hawai'i potentially adds another 2+ hour flight but bus rides will be short w/less traffic. |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 15, 2024 13:20:27 GMT -5
I just think it’s wild that people are so oblivious to the ins and outs it takes to running a successful program. At the end of the day, coaches can prepare but players NEED to execute, and I really think fans need to understand that outside maybe a University in Alaska, committing to and moving to Hawaii is the biggest change of life that a mainland recruit can experience. It’s not for the faint of heart or for wishy washy players and I can see the program not wanting to invest in anyone wishy washy. Nebraska is having a solid season with only 14 on the roster, only thing is, the caliber of that 14 is incredible. However they have literally zero depth at opposite and don’t do even remotely comparable amounts of getting non regular starters on the floor. Unfortunately for Hawaii, their depth is in all the positions they don’t need it as desperately. Setter, Libero, and Middle are mostly locks. But the pin depth is definitely hurting right now because Hakas is not Merrit Beason and Stella is not Harper Murray. Anyone who knows this game understands that multiple pin production has a lot to do with how your offense works to win you games. Right now it’s the Caylen Show without a quality supporting cast. As others have said, it is what it is. That’s not on the coaching staff, you can’t force recruits into Hawaii and no one here has a first hand account of how the staff recruits. The ONLY thing I can put on the coaching staff is recruiting. They cant force recruits, but ive spoken to multiple club coaches/connected people, and they all say the Hawaii staff needs personality lol. They said kaleo is ok, but thats about it. No one is mean, robyn is VERY respected, but they just dont connect well with everyone. They said Ang was good. We just need that personality hire, and a BLOCKING/hitting coach on the team WHOA! I said the exact same thing on here last year that Robyn has "no personality" and got shaite on by you and a bunch of others on here for saying it and now you're saying it and getting likes from some of the people that were shaiting on me for saying it last year?! SMDH....Uneffingreal... |
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 15, 2024 13:24:43 GMT -5
The ONLY thing I can put on the coaching staff is recruiting. They cant force recruits, but ive spoken to multiple club coaches/connected people, and they all say the Hawaii staff needs personality lol. They said kaleo is ok, but thats about it. No one is mean, robyn is VERY respected, but they just dont connect well with everyone. They said Ang was good. We just need that personality hire, and a BLOCKING/hitting coach on the team WHOA! I said the exact same thing on here last year that Robyn has "no personality" and got shaite on by you and a bunch of others on here for saying it and now you're saying it and getting likes from some of the people that were shaiting on me for saying it last year?! SMDH....Uneffingreal... I never said Robyn had 0 personality I said that they need the personality hire. Robyn is ok. She’s not the most charming. Never will be. But she’s respected. No one hates her. It’s just hard to connect wit her You also spew hatred to the staff so that may be why Saying the staff needs personality doesn’t mean they have 0. It means they just need more. |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 15, 2024 13:24:53 GMT -5
I don't understand why people are calling for Ah Mow's head- this is just the current landscape for womens volleyball. The men's team was in almost the exact situation last season when Chakas went down and they lost to teams they weren't "supposed" to, yet people aren't calling for Charlie Wade's head. Hawaii doesnt have the luxury of getting those five star recruits who are AA-level as soon as they come in; they never really have. We had a few here and there like Danielson, Kamanao, Ljunquist, but even those players improved with Hawaii's coaching. The majority of Hawaii's AAs were lesser-recruited players who developed into the AA-level players after a few years (think Igiede, Hartong, Duggins, Goods and so many more). This is going to be more of an issue with NIL deals and not being able to compete. Ah Mow is doing what Shoji did: she gets athletes she thinks she can train into AAs. I think she is a great coach that does a good job of developing talent. Unfortunately, a lot of the talent left because of the COVID, portal, NIL, etc. Last year we would have had Hellvig headlining the team. This year we could have had Johnson and DeGoode. Hawaii with those players who could contributed early on, and factoring in the normal improvement under this coaching staff, would be comfortably in the top 25 if not maybe even the top 10. Do we really want to trash the whole program because of some players who left early? Seriously, some of the "fans" on here are just plain dumb with some of the critiques of the team and coaches. You can’t be serious.. Wade has produced National Championships.. Ah Mow has barely produced a top 25 team! Yeah that was a dumb comparison.... |
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Post by hapaguy on Oct 15, 2024 13:27:47 GMT -5
I'm going to miss traveling with the team to the west coast games! |
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